Stomach turning (37 Viewers)

[skybluegod]

The kid was targeted????

I really hope he gets raped, beaten and tortured inside.

Well that’s a bit wrong isn’t it?
You can’t detest a mans actions and then wish such things upon a person.
What he did was immoral and disgusting. But I don’t wish the things you said on anybody

 

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[Deleted member 5849]

Stabbings, shootings, rapes and grooming young white girls, honour killings, Sharia Law.....now an acid attack on a kid.......First comments you hear from so many including you are the usual ' 'They're not all bad type of shit, there is just no need for that instant defence, I'm sure almost everyone knows they are NOT all bad !!

Alright, was keeping out of this tyhread but, there are some fucking stupid morons turning up in it.

So, for the avoidance of doubt, it's wrong. It's a fucking moron that thinks saying anything is wrong, but the whiff of bigotry...

It's always fucking happened. Stop reading the ideologically driven hate and read some proper stuff. Lax sentences aren't new either. Used to be six months for killing a child by booting it in the head. Sentence was that light beause it was an acvcident - the perpetrator actually meant to kick the mother in the head.

Abuse, killing, downright bastardry is not a multicultural thing.

It's a bad people thing.

Alas, the idiots are the ones that let people get away with it, because instead of condemning it and dealing with it, they try and use it to make a political point.

Fucking tossers, they are.

 

[skybluegod]

Stabbings, shootings, rapes and grooming young white girls, honour killings, Sharia Law.....now an acid attack on a kid.......First comments you hear from so many including you are the usual ' 'They're not all bad type of shit, there is just no need for that instant defence, I'm sure almost everyone knows they are NOT all bad !!

Why attack him for saying so?
I appreciate what SB is saying, he is trying to stop the instant jump to blaming immigrants for all of our problems.
We live in a society that thinks it is perfect. It’s not and everyone needs to take responsibility for it rather than saying it’s an imported behaviour from abroad.

 

[Nick]

Well that’s a bit wrong isn’t it?
You can’t detest a mans actions and then wish such things upon a person.
What he did was immoral and disgusting. But I don’t wish the things you said on anybody

The man has targeted a 3 year old child to throw acid on them.

His aim is to purposely ruin a child's many years of life, not to mention the mental issues it may cause for the kid and the physical issues.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over him being tortured slowly and painfully. Of course I can detest a man's actions against a 3 year old and then have no issues wishing the man gets the same and worse back for it..

 

[skybluegod]

The man has targeted a 3 year old child to throw acid on them.

His aim is to purposely ruin a child's many years of life, not to mention the mental issues it may cause for the kid and the physical issues.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over him being tortured slowly and painfully.

Yes and as I said what he did was disgusting and immoral.

But I don’t know about you, but I think rape and sexual assault is one of the worst things about society today. And I don’t care what anyone does it shouldn’t happen.
People need to stop talking about it like a punishment for the wicked, or as a joke, as it’s disgusting.
The justice system is about punishing people to improve them.
If it was my kid I would be so angry. But nothing would make me want to do what you said to the perpetrator. Because there is no benefit to it.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yes and as I said what he did was disgusting and immoral.

But I don’t know about you, but I think rape and sexual assault is one of the worst things about society today. And I don’t care what anyone does it shouldn’t happen.
People need to stop talking about it like a punishment for the wicked, or as a joke, as it’s disgusting.
The justice system is about punishing people to improve them.
If it was my kid I would be so angry. But nothing would make me want to do what you said to the perpetrator. Because there is no benefit to it.

Completely agree

 

[Nick]

Yes and as I said what he did was disgusting and immoral.

But I don’t know about you, but I think rape and sexual assault is one of the worst things about society today. And I don’t care what anyone does it shouldn’t happen.
People need to stop talking about it like a punishment for the wicked, or as a joke, as it’s disgusting.
The justice system is about punishing people to improve them.
If it was my kid I would be so angry. But nothing would make me want to do what you said to the perpetrator. Because there is no benefit to it.

The rape reference was more due to Prison. If somebody did that to my daughter I'd have no issue in beating and torturing them.

There's also no benefit in him being sent to prison either. Not sure there's much point in the "improvement" of somebody who finds it OK to throw acid at a toddler.

If you think that little rat is going to be "improved" you are being very naive. He will probably get put away, join up with some sort of gang inside and live a half decent life. Anybody finds out his crime then he will be whisked away to a new prison before anybody can get near him.

Sitting in hospitals for months, watching your child go through painful surgery and not understanding why they are badly disfigured. The mental issues that may come from it.

Meanwhile, the scum who did it are "improving" in prison where their biggest worry is whether they will get to exercise that day and how they will get drugs that week.

 

[skybluegod]

The rape reference was more due to Prison. If somebody did that to my daughter I'd have no issue in beating and torturing them.

There's also no benefit in him being sent to prison either. Not sure there's much point in the "improvement" of somebody who finds it OK to throw acid at a toddler.

If you think that little rat is going to be "improved" you are being very naive. He will probably get put away, join up with some sort of gang inside and live a half decent life. Anybody finds out his crime then he will be whisked away to a new prison before anybody can get near him.

Sitting in hospitals for months, watching your child go through painful surgery and not understanding why they are badly disfigured. The mental issues that may come from it.

Meanwhile, the scum who did it are "improving" in prison where their biggest worry is whether they will get to exercise that day and how they will get drugs that week.

Why does it matter why rape is mentioned? It shouldn’t be just a causal topic of conversation. If it had happened to someone you care about then you would understand.

No it’s not naive. I don’t want to live in a society that deems it that nobody can change. That nobody can learn.
I recently watched a ted talk about a man who was literally second away from being a school shooter. He changed his life and his attitude. And is now a successful and proper member of society.

I know plenty about mental health issues, and you know what I still wouldn’t want to hurt or kill someone like that.

Why does imploring violence to anyone make it better?
Why would it be okay?
The people already in prison have been put away for good reason. But its okay for them to beat/rape/torture another prisoner/man because he committed a bad crime?
What does that tell you about our justice system and society if that’s what you are wishing on him to happen?
To me it says that people who are in prison for assault/murder can get away with doing it on the inside as long as it’s done to equally bad people? No they are in there to change not repeat their crimes.

 

[Ashdown]

Why attack him for saying so?
I appreciate what SB is saying, he is trying to stop the instant jump to blaming immigrants for all of our problems.
We live in a society that thinks it is perfect. It’s not and everyone needs to take responsibility for it rather than saying it’s an imported behaviour from abroad.

What an utter load of apologist claptrap. Some c**t attacks a 3 year old kid and it's all our fault. Fucksake that is typical left wing dribble. That culture is imported, make no mistake !

 

[Nick]

Why does it matter why rape is mentioned? It shouldn’t be just a causal topic of conversation. If it had happened to someone you care about then you would understand.

No it’s not naive. I don’t want to live in a society that deems it that nobody can change. That nobody can learn.
I recently watched a ted talk about a man who was literally second away from being a school shooter. He changed his life and his attitude. And is now a successful and proper member of society.

I know plenty about mental health issues, and you know what I still wouldn’t want to hurt or kill someone like that.

Why does imploring violence to anyone make it better?
Why would it be okay?
The people already in prison have been put away for good reason. But its okay for them to beat/rape/torture another prisoner/man because he committed a bad crime?
What does that tell you about our justice system and society if that’s what you are wishing on him to happen?
To me it says that people who are in prison for assault/murder can get away with doing it on the inside as long as it’s done to equally bad people? No they are in there to change not repeat their crimes.

How do you justify a change from throwing acid in a 3 year old's face?

What does it tell you about the justice system when you have people in prison making more money than they do on the outside? What does it tell you when drugs are just as easy to get on the outside? What does it tell you when their biggest worry is whether they get exercise or to see their mates that day because the staff levels are low? Maybe it's which colour brand new Audi RS they should order from their cell with the money they have made that's gone to their families on the outside?

It is very naive to think if a man had thrown acid in your child's face you would just want him to be put away to try to change his ways. Either that or you are up there with a Saint.

You are sat there watching your child go through unimaginable pain while the person who did it is getting fed, watered and more than likely smoking drugs with his pals in his cell watching TV? I will take the wanting him to hurt option, none of this meeting him to try and understand him / forgive him nonsense.

 

[Ashdown]

Why does it matter why rape is mentioned? It shouldn’t be just a causal topic of conversation. If it had happened to someone you care about then you would understand.

No it’s not naive. I don’t want to live in a society that deems it that nobody can change. That nobody can learn.
I recently watched a ted talk about a man who was literally second away from being a school shooter. He changed his life and his attitude. And is now a successful and proper member of society.

I know plenty about mental health issues, and you know what I still wouldn’t want to hurt or kill someone like that.

Why does imploring violence to anyone make it better?
Why would it be okay?
The people already in prison have been put away for good reason. But its okay for them to beat/rape/torture another prisoner/man because he committed a bad crime?
What does that tell you about our justice system and society if that’s what you are wishing on him to happen?
To me it says that people who are in prison for assault/murder can get away with doing it on the inside as long as it’s done to equally bad people? No they are in there to change not repeat their crimes.

Oh God no wonder you have mental health experience. Our prisons are packed full of these unrepentant lunatics......all learning to get better.....oh please !

 

[Sick Boy]

What an utter load of apologist claptrap. Some c**t attacks a 3 year old kid and it's all our fault. Fucksake that is typical left wing dribble. That culture is imported, make no mistake !

What's your big idea then? Start rounding up the British Pakistani community and 'send them home'?

A lot of middle aged white men are involved in all sorts of abhorrent stuff, by the way.

 

[skybluegod]

Oh God no wonder you have mental health experience. Our prisons are packed full of these unrepentant lunatics......all learning to get better.....oh please !

Haha :drool:
No point in responding to someone who doesn’t take mental health seriously...

 

[Nick]

I brought up the mental health of the 3 year old, the one that's going to have multiple operations and surgery and potentially grow up disfigured.

 

[skybluegod]

How do you justify a change from throwing acid in a 3 year old's face?

What does it tell you about the justice system when you have people in prison making more money than they do on the outside? What does it tell you when drugs are just as easy to get on the outside? What does it tell you when their biggest worry is whether they get exercise or to see their mates that day because the staff levels are low? Maybe it's which colour brand new Audi RS they should order from their cell with the money they have made that's gone to their families on the outside?

It is very naive to think if a man had thrown acid in your child's face you would just want him to be put away to try to change his ways. Either that or you are up there with a Saint.

You are sat there watching your child go through unimaginable pain while the person who did it is getting fed, watered and more than likely smoking drugs with his pals in his cell watching TV? I will take the wanting him to hurt option, none of this meeting him to try and understand him / forgive him nonsense.

What do you mean how do I justify it? Sorry I don’t understand the question but I will happily answer it once clarifies...

That’s avoiding the point nick. Nowhere have I said that what goes on in prison is right. What I am pointing out is what is wrong. I agree all of that is wrong. And it shouldn’t be happening.
But what I am also saying is that It doesn’t mean because it is going on doesn’t mean we should accept the man being rapes beaten or tortured.

Hey I’m not gonna lie if it happened in the moment? I would probably beat him within an inch of his life. I wouldn’t think. If it happened and the guy was already restrained or I wasn’t there... or if I had the chance to gather my sense. I stand by what I said. I would want him put away. Human society starts improving when we start educating people.

Well clearly we have two very different view points. And that is fair enough. Free society. But if I was in that situation, I would care more about helping my child than trying to think up revenge or for assualt to be accepted in society.
It’s very easy to think about the small picture. Instant revenge, one person suffering, being tortured or whatever.
But what I would care about is making sure it never happened to anyone else. I believe that lies in education and not just for the perpetrators, but for everyone.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

What's your big idea then? Start rounding up the British Pakistani community and 'send them home'?

A lot of middle aged white men are involved in all sorts of abhorrent stuff, by the way.

He ruins any arguments from those who can string a sentence together with his clueless illiterate bile.

Notice he keeps out of the threads where it's a good white British chap who commits a crime.

 

[skybluegod]

I brought up the mental health of the 3 year old, the one that's going to have multiple operations and surgery and potentially grow up disfigured.

That wasn’t directed at you nick, I know why brought that up and I don’t think it was in a bad way. I was responding to ashdown who insulted it

 

[skybluegod]

What an utter load of apologist claptrap. Some c**t attacks a 3 year old kid and it's all our fault. Fucksake that is typical left wing dribble. That culture is imported, make no mistake !

Well clearly you have no rational argument or evidence to back up your view point. So think it best that you leave...
clearly just some bigoted, racist who can’t accept that English people aren’t perfect.

 

[Otis]

I brought up the mental health of the 3 year old, the one that's going to have multiple operations and surgery and potentially grow up disfigured.

Not sure of the feasibility, but I would like to see something introduced by where people such as this pay for the medical bills of the victim.

Sentence through the courts too of course, but also fees totted up of the cost of the victim's suffering and charged against the perpetrator. I know there is something in place, but the costs always seem very low. This boy's treatment will run into many thousands of pounds.

I would like to see the same for those who totally misuse the NHS and emergency services.

The likes of the speed racers who lead the police on a merry dance driving round like lunatics at high speed. Charge them at the hourly rate of the police officers that are chasing them's wages, plus petrol.

 

[clint van damme]

Stabbings, shootings, rapes and grooming young white girls, honour killings, Sharia Law.....now an acid attack on a kid.......First comments you hear from so many including you are the usual ' 'They're not all bad type of shit, there is just no need for that instant defence, I'm sure almost everyone knows they are NOT all bad !!

can't you just condemn this appalling act without your nauseating wave of political point scoring?

 

[clint van damme]

does anyone actually know the ethnic background or religion of the perpetrators?

To me it's irrelevant. What I do know is they are absolute scum, and where they're from or what they believe in makes no difference to me, they're lower than vermin.

 

[Otis]

does anyone actually know the ethnic background or religion of the perpetrators?

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No, but I definitely think we should guess and assume.

 

[Ashdown]

What's your big idea then? Start rounding up the British Pakistani community and 'send them home'?

A lot of middle aged white men are involved in all sorts of abhorrent stuff, by the way.

They should never have been allowed in in such large numbers, they should never have been allowed to build mosques and they should never have been allowed to introduce their backward, mysoginistic , religion based shite to the UK. They are probably the only group of a mass of different cultures that refuse to integrate. That particular tail wants to wag the dog. Oh and yes you are right there is good and bad in all people of course and yes of course many Muslims here just want a peaceful and happy existence.

 

[Ashdown]

He ruins any arguments from those who can string a sentence together with his clueless illiterate bile.
Yawn
Notice he keeps out of the threads where it's a good white British chap who commits a crime.

 

[Nick]

does anyone actually know the ethnic background or religion of the perpetrators?

To me it's irrelevant. What I do know is they are absolute scum, and where they're from or what they believe in makes no difference to me, they're lower than vermin.

They don't "look" Pakistani, more Eastern European.

Makes no difference to me either.

 

[Otis]

They don't "look" Pakistani, more Eastern European.

Makes no difference to me either.

Scum are scum. Plenty of white British scum about for sure.

 

[Nick]

What do you mean how do I justify it? Sorry I don’t understand the question but I will happily answer it once clarifies...

That’s avoiding the point nick. Nowhere have I said that what goes on in prison is right. What I am pointing out is what is wrong. I agree all of that is wrong. And it shouldn’t be happening.
But what I am also saying is that It doesn’t mean because it is going on doesn’t mean we should accept the man being rapes beaten or tortured.

Hey I’m not gonna lie if it happened in the moment? I would probably beat him within an inch of his life. I wouldn’t think. If it happened and the guy was already restrained or I wasn’t there... or if I had the chance to gather my sense. I stand by what I said. I would want him put away. Human society starts improving when we start educating people.

Well clearly we have two very different view points. And that is fair enough. Free society. But if I was in that situation, I would care more about helping my child than trying to think up revenge or for assualt to be accepted in society.
It’s very easy to think about the small picture. Instant revenge, one person suffering, being tortured or whatever.
But what I would care about is making sure it never happened to anyone else. I believe that lies in education and not just for the perpetrators, but for everyone.

Yes of course both things are wrong but it's very naive to think he will go to prison and change and be a good person and everything will be hunky dory.

At what point should people be educated to not throw acid in kid's faces or the risks of it? If the 3 year old was targeted, they knew full well what they wanted to do.

The bloke will be in prison living a more comfortable life than the victim. How's that right?

 

[Otis]

Yes of course both things are wrong but it's very naive to think he will go to prison and change and be a good person and everything will be hunky dory.

At what point should people be educated to not throw acid in kid's faces or the risks of it? If the 3 year old was targeted, they knew full well what they wanted to do.

The bloke will be in prison living a more comfortable life than the victim. How's that right?

I do agree with human rights for sure, but I do think your rights should be severely curtailed if you end up in prison for an offence such as this. For any serious offence.

 

[Ashdown]

Oh and who pays the huge bill for these thousands of lunatics in our prisons......

 

[Deleted member 5849]

can't you just condemn this appalling act without your nauseating wave of political point scoring?

The racist Father Jack shtick is so 1997.

 

[skybluegod]

Yes of course both things are wrong but it's very naive to think he will go to prison and change and be a good person and everything will be hunky dory.

At what point should people be educated to not throw acid in kid's faces or the risks of it? If the 3 year old was targeted, they knew full well what they wanted to do.

The bloke will be in prison living a more comfortable life than the victim. How's that right?

I don’t necessarily think he will go to prison and become a prison. But that’s down to the state of the prison system and judicial system. It will never be hunky dory.

They should be educated about it always? That is what I’m saying. They need to be educated on such matter. But we need to look long term and teach the kids of today about such things...

I didn’t say it was right? But then it’s the same for every perpetrator. Rapists, Murders, terrorists. Everyone.

 

[skybluegod]

Oh and who pays the huge bill for these thousands of lunatics in our prisons......

I think racists like you should foot the whole bill.
If that’s what you are worried about? Your back pocket more than the 3 year old then who cares what you think?
You are paying to keep people off the street who have done some horrible things. We can’t just kill them. They can’t pay for it themselves working in prison can they?

 

[Nick]

I don’t necessarily think he will go to prison and become a prison. But that’s down to the state of the prison system and judicial system. It will never be hunky dory.

They should be educated about it always? That is what I’m saying. They need to be educated on such matter. But we need to look long term and teach the kids of today about such things...

I didn’t say it was right? But then it’s the same for every perpetrator. Rapists, Murders, terrorists. Everyone.

What do you plan on teaching somebody who has thrown acid in a kid's face? How would you even start with that?

It isn't like it was a couple of teenagers playing about with acid and it spilt, it is a man who clearly knew what he was doing.

 

[Nick]

They can’t pay for it themselves working in prison can they?

For some then no, they won't have anything to their name. (Lower end druggies, street crime etc)

Others however could pay for more than you can imagine. Like I said, brand new Audi's, Designer Clothes sent in, iPhones for £1000.

 

[Ashdown]

I think racists like you should foot the whole bill.
If that’s what you are worried about? Your back pocket more than the 3 year old then who cares what you think?
You are paying to keep people off the street who have done some horrible things. We can’t just kill them. They can’t pay for it themselves working in prison can they?

Laughable little do gooder ! You're a joke and your insulting lefty lunatic fringe will all again be frothing at the mouth about the disgust aimed at the culprits once more rather than the actual hideous crime......until the next time eh and then it will be all rinse and repeat and the same automatic responses??