The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (8 Viewers)

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
Astute

Astute

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martcov said:
Rees Mogg is a hedge fund part owner. His hedge fund invests mainly in emerging markets, and now, to a much lesser extent, the EU via Dublin. Not in Brexit Britain. Emerging markets will profit from a splitting of the trade bloc EU starting with Britain. I think he is a successful hedge fund boss, but whether that helps the leavers who have been whipped up to hate the EU, is another question. I can see him doing a SISU Joy if he gets to be PM, by saying he „empathises“ with the poorer leavers. Apart from them being able, maybe, to buy cheaper Australian wine and tell their kids that the UK wil be booming in 2068, they will not be better off and may have lost their livelihoods.
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Whipped up to hate the EU?

Come and live in the UK for a bit and find out the real truth. Many that voted remain have seen what the EU is like since we have tried negotiating. We negotiate. They say no. Not good enough. Won't work. But it isn't too late to stay in. They say we can't cherry pick whilst they cherry pick. We can have what is good for the EU but nothing that is good for us.

So would you prefer RM to May? You certainly don't want RM. Is it because May has finally stood up to the EU? Because the majority of the UK wanted her to. And I have shown you the latest YouGov poll that said so after they were supposed to have said we wanted to stay in the EU.
 
Astute

Astute

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clint van damme said:
hid old man once said, "the best time to make money is in chaos",
I think Jacob has taken that advice one step further and has decided to instigate the chaos as well.
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How many running the EU are making money out of the situation?
 
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martcov

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Astute said:
Whipped up to hate the EU?

Come and live in the UK for a bit and find out the real truth. Many that voted remain have seen what the EU is like since we have tried negotiating. We negotiate. They say no. Not good enough. Won't work. But it isn't too late to stay in. They say we can't cherry pick whilst they cherry pick. We can have what is good for the EU but nothing that is good for us.

So would you prefer RM to May? You certainly don't want RM. Is it because May has finally stood up to the EU? Because the majority of the UK wanted her to. And I have shown you the latest YouGov poll that said so after they were supposed to have said we wanted to stay in the EU.
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We didn’t have these discussions amongst ourselves before 2008/2009, and it got really bad around 2010 and 2011. the EU was around for years before that. Suggests it was caused by social media and not a specific event.
 
Astute

Astute

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martcov said:
We didn’t have these discussions amongst ourselves before 2008/2009, and it got really bad around 2010 and 2011. the EU was around for years before that. Suggests it was caused by social media and not a specific event.
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Or something to do with the direction the EU was going in.
 
Astute

Astute

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clint van damme said:
absolutely no idea. Bur if there are any they didn't push to leave the EU and then move their investment fund headquarters to the EU I'd wager.
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Because they make more money out of us being in the EU and not out of it. They know what rules and regulations are going to be brought out next.
 
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martcov

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Astute said:
Whipped up to hate the EU?

Come and live in the UK for a bit and find out the real truth. Many that voted remain have seen what the EU is like since we have tried negotiating. We negotiate. They say no. Not good enough. Won't work. But it isn't too late to stay in. They say we can't cherry pick whilst they cherry pick. We can have what is good for the EU but nothing that is good for us.

So would you prefer RM to May? You certainly don't want RM. Is it because May has finally stood up to the EU? Because the majority of the UK wanted her to. And I have shown you the latest YouGov poll that said so after they were supposed to have said we wanted to stay in the EU.
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You seem to think that the majority were in favour of May going to Salzburg with her Plan which had already been rejected by the EU as unworkable? Any links?
 
Astute

Astute

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martcov said:
You seem to think that the majority were in favour of May going to Salzburg with her Plan which had already been rejected by the EU as unworkable? Any links?
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As in when YouGov were supposed to be saying that the majority wanted another referendum but as usual it was false information by a remainer on here?
 
Astute

Astute

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martcov said:
No, I am talking about the upcoming laws which UKIP voted against.
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Yes. Always interested in anything except for when someone at or near the top of the EU has done something wrong.
 
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martcov

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Astute said:
Yes. Always interested in anything except for when someone at or near the top of the EU has done something wrong.
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Says you. I put up with your posts about. Selmayr- read them, researched them and commented on them. You can repeat Selmayr and Juncker a million times, but they’re not relevant in the big picture. Juncker will be gone soon, and if Selmayr was not there, somebody else would be doing his job and nothing would change in your life. What interests me is the fairer burden of taxation. If there are new tax laws to curb evasion, I am all for it. If the people pushing Brexit are doing that to avoid EU tax evasion laws, they are merely using Brexit for their own profit and betraying the people who voted for them. Surprised you are not up in arms about that as you were about Luxemburg.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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martcov said:
Are you going to answer the question?
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You looked at the uk gov poll and to coin the Polish pension rapist you cherry picked one answer.

That led you to tne statement that most people thing Brexit will be worse than staying in the Eu.

This was not accurate as you “forgot” the nearly half of voters who expressed no view.

You failed to mention no shift on the actual desire to have a second referendum or voting intent
 
Astute

Astute

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martcov said:
Says you. I put up with your posts about. Selmayr- read them, researched them and commented on them. You can repeat Selmayr and Juncker a million times, but they’re not relevant in the big picture. Juncker will be gone soon, and if Selmayr was not there, somebody else would be doing his job and nothing would change in your life. What interests me is the fairer burden of taxation. If there are new tax laws to curb evasion, I am all for it. If the people pushing Brexit are doing that to avoid EU tax evasion laws, they are merely using Brexit for their own profit and betraying the people who voted for them. Surprised you are not up in arms about that as you were about Luxemburg.
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FFS.

Selmayr and Juncker not relevant?

Selmayr has the top job in the EU. He has the job for life. The EU will go in the direction that he wants. Juncker broke the rules and regulations to get him the job.

So how can they not have any relevance?
 
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martcov

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Astute said:
FFS.

Selmayr and Juncker not relevant?

Selmayr has the top job in the EU. He has the job for life. The EU will go in the direction that he wants. Juncker broke the rules and regulations to get him the job.

So how can they not have any relevance?
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Juncker will be gone soon. He is not a king. Selmayr is head of the civil service which carry out the rules passed by the parliament and council. Are you suggesting he is all powerful? Why isn’t May dealing with him instead of 27 heads of state? The EU will go in the direction set by the council and parliament. The commission will prepare the legislation and present it to the parliament which can amend reject or accept it. How does Selmayr fit into your life?
 
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martcov

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Grendel said:
You looked at the uk gov poll and to coin the Polish pension rapist you cherry picked one answer.

That led you to tne statement that most people thing Brexit will be worse than staying in the Eu.

This was not accurate as you “forgot” the nearly half of voters who expressed no view.

You failed to mention no shift on the actual desire to have a second referendum or voting intent
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I said of the people who gave an opinion more said that Brexit was a mistake. I didn’t mention other things. In other polls remain has a small lead over leave.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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martcov said:
I said of the people who gave an opinion more said that Brexit was a mistake. I didn’t mention other things. In other polls remain has a small lead over leave.
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Not included not interested and that’s the poll most use. The other one you used had laughable research results
 
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