chiefdave
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Lost has just turned up on Now TV. Not sure if its worth rewatching or not.
Netflix - Making a murderer (3 Viewers)
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Otis
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Absolutely bloody unbelievable. Words fail me. Dassey's conviction upheld.
Making a Murderer: Court upholds Brendan Dassey conviction - Court backs Making a Murderer confession
Making a Murderer: Court upholds Brendan Dassey conviction - Court backs Making a Murderer confession
Otis
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It's as clear a case of coercion you could ever get. A total and complete fix up.
How any judge could uphold that conviction based on that confession is totally beyond belief.
Otis
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Yup.
There was so much doubt cast upon the convictions from this documentary.
Shows the American justice system to be an ass that they declared the convictions safe.
WhaleOilBeefHooked
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I thought it was all tenuous.... Until the evidence with the blood (I think) in the box which had clearly been opened, used, and put back.
Otis
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Hmm, not so sure.
Can't remember a lot of it, but didn't they only find blood after the 6th search and weeks later? And the 'confession' of Dassey was outrageous and led by pure coercion.
That confession should have been thrown out of court.
Loads wrong from what I can recall.
Can't remember a lot of it, but didn't they only find blood after the 6th search and weeks later? And the 'confession' of Dassey was outrageous and led by pure coercion.
That confession should have been thrown out of court.
Loads wrong from what I can recall.
Marty
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It was searched a number of times (can't remember the figure) by an outside police force, the local police force (the one who he sued) then searched it and unsurprisingly found all sorts. Definitely been stitched up.
Otis
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Watching part two now.
They have reshown some of the Dassey confession. Just reminded me how unbelievable that truly was.
Should never have been accepted into evidence. The poor lad hasn't got a clue what he is saying, clearly knows nothing and they falsely give him the impression that he can go home if he tells them what they need to know and want him to say.
They have reshown some of the Dassey confession. Just reminded me how unbelievable that truly was.
Should never have been accepted into evidence. The poor lad hasn't got a clue what he is saying, clearly knows nothing and they falsely give him the impression that he can go home if he tells them what they need to know and want him to say.
Marty
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Where are you watching it?
Otis
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Otis
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No-one would buy it. Not for a single second.
Even for the thickest bloke on the planet you can see Brendan Dassey's confusion was coached and coerced and the poor lad was just saying anything they wanted him to say.
He should have been released in 2015 when everyone thought he he was going to be released and the district judge said his testimony could not be relied on.
The whole thing is outrageous.
I do fancy Brendan Dassey's lawyer though (the female in case you are wondering).
ccfcrob
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She walks with her toes pointing out, also kitten heels are a no no for me. So out of season
chiefdave
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Are those your only requirements?!
Otis
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What can I say, I am not a fussy man.
Otis
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What the hell are kitten heels?She walks with her toes pointing out, also kitten heels are a no no for me. So out of season
ccfcrob
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Heels that are tiny, not stilettos but no quite flats. If you need me I will be in Milan this week sorting out this winters collection.
Nick
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Watching the one now about dassey conviction overturned. I know it might sound harsh but why was the atterney saying he would give the family of the victim input on what happens?
How does that work? Obviously an awful situation for them but could they give? Surely the input should be the letters of the law?
How does that work? Obviously an awful situation for them but could they give? Surely the input should be the letters of the law?
Otis
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I think it was that nickname that was his downfall in his original court case.
Otis
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Not as good as the first series, which had so much to cram in and I feel this second season could be so much shorter.
A lot of filling and padding of the Avery family and the Dassey family.
Think the key here is pulling apart what was wrong in the first trial and uncovering any new evidence.
Bit too much focus on the day to day life of the families back home.
Am now just coming up to episode 8.
A lot of filling and padding of the Avery family and the Dassey family.
Think the key here is pulling apart what was wrong in the first trial and uncovering any new evidence.
Bit too much focus on the day to day life of the families back home.
Am now just coming up to episode 8.
Nick
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Got a little bit bored of it, like you say it feels like in a couple of episodes they have just made 1 or 2 points but dragged it out.
The other thing about this is how widespread it is. In the first one unless I googled it Id have had no idea if they were guilty or not. Now we know they are both still locked up, if they got released we wouldn't have missed it as it would be everywhere.
The other thing about this is how widespread it is. In the first one unless I googled it Id have had no idea if they were guilty or not. Now we know they are both still locked up, if they got released we wouldn't have missed it as it would be everywhere.
Otis
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Yeah, there was a bit of a cliffhanger feel to it last time, but like you say, if they were released now we would definitely know about it.
Just finished the whole thing last night. Still find it utterly ridiculous in regard to Brendan Dassey's 'safe' and 'non-coerced' confession.
16 and with a very low IQ, yet they led him to where they wanted to go with it.
Scandalous really.
Otis
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The latest on the case.
he h://www.digitalspy.com/tv/making-a-murderer/feature/a869656/kathleen-zellner-now-updates-steven-avery-case/
Seemingly, according to that, they are hinting that someone on the prosecution team has admitted that Steven Avery is innocent.
The other thing I really picked up on is the fact that apparently, Bobby Dassey, Brendan's brother wasn't actually where he said he was at the time (gone hunting). Phone records show he was elsewhere.
he h://www.digitalspy.com/tv/making-a-murderer/feature/a869656/kathleen-zellner-now-updates-steven-avery-case/
Seemingly, according to that, they are hinting that someone on the prosecution team has admitted that Steven Avery is innocent.
The other thing I really picked up on is the fact that apparently, Bobby Dassey, Brendan's brother wasn't actually where he said he was at the time (gone hunting). Phone records show he was elsewhere.
fellatio_Martinez
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He deserves life in prison for what he did to that cat.
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Just on episode 3 of the new series. How did the system allow Dassey to sit there and be coerced into that, they told him everything about the crime, he didn’t get anything right.
Off system of justice, both Avery and Dassey have issues but I’m not sure they did it but the show is very good at showing certain sides to the story.
Off system of justice, both Avery and Dassey have issues but I’m not sure they did it but the show is very good at showing certain sides to the story.