The town where police don't come out (2 Viewers)

Otis

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I'm not against people taking security measures and if you've got a certain amount of wealth it's probably sensible but these gated communities don't appeal to me.
There'd definitely be an annoying neighbour who thinks that living behind that gate made you best mates.
I have that without any gated community.
 

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Isn't it just a gate though with a few houses behind? They still leave there and integrate surely?
Not really. It's a physical barrier showing you think you're better than the plebs outside.
 

Nick

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Not really. It's a physical barrier showing you think you're better than the plebs outside.
Yeah but so is a fence and front gate?

Doesn't always mean people think they are better.

I'd want to live in one for the security side of it, I'd still have to go out to work every day the same as I do now and it would be no different really apart from safer.
 
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Gazolba

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Not really. It's a physical barrier showing you think you're better than the plebs outside.
It doesn't have anything to do with that. That's all in your own mind!
A lot of people who choose gated communities are vulnerable people, single women and the elderly, people who feel safer having some security.
They can walk around the grounds at night without fear of being accosted.
It has nothing to with them feeling superior to others.
You don't have to be rich to live in a gated community here, they are everywhere.
 
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Yeah but so is a fence and front gate?

Doesn't always mean people think they are better.

I'd want to live in one for the security side of it, I'd still have to go out to work every day the same as I do now and it would be no different really apart from safer.
You're putting up an artificial barrier, you're creating a divide. That's what happens!
 

Nick

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You're putting up an artificial barrier, you're creating a divide. That's what happens!

How far does it go though? I have walls on my house and a padlock on my side gate.

I wouldn't want to be segregated from the outside world. It would just be a safety thing knowing that my daughter was out playing and was safe without twats driving about. It would probably be the same in a nice quiet culdesac without the gates and fences to be fair!
 

Marty

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My aunt lives on a gated community in London, kind of place where you need to be mega rich to afford it. She retired at 40 the lucky cow.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Weird quite applicable situation just happened. With a 3 day weekend coming up we went to the pub just now. On the way home there was a good 3 or 4 blokes stood on our street walking up and down, clearly up to no good. Shining lights into the windows and generally behaving shifty as hell.

Called 101 without wanting to be particularly dramatic. Apart from the 7 minutes it took me to get through, within 3 minutes following we had 3 cars and a van turn up.

Quite impressed really.

No updates so far but they did call me back to say they've had several other calls and these guys are clearly up to no good. They said they'll keep searching.

Took my dogs out for a bit of hunting but it looks like they've scattered now.
 

Nick

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Weird quite applicable situation just happened. With a 3 day weekend coming up we went to the pub just now. On the way home there was a good 3 or 4 blokes stood on our street walking up and down, clearly up to no good. Shining lights into the windows and generally behaving shifty as hell.

Called 101 without wanting to be particularly dramatic. Apart from the 7 minutes it took me to get through, within 3 minutes following we had 3 cars and a van turn up.

Quite impressed really.

No updates so far but they did call me back to say they've had several other calls and these guys are clearly up to no good. They said they'll keep searching.

Took my dogs out for a bit of hunting but it looks like they've scattered now.
Coming up to Christmas they will all be out, looking for presents :(

That's a good response though to be fair.
 

Ashdown

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I might be wide of the mark here, but I'd hazard a guess that there's a larger percentage of people with something to hide in gated communities than is normal.
Having said that I worked with a South African who lived in one and it was pretty much a necessity over there but the UK isn't South Africa.
Not yet it isnt but it's going that way in places.
 

Otis

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No it's not, it's just a place where often elderly people can feel a lot safer. It means scumbags can't directly threaten their doorsteps. They're frightened not arrogant.
My dad puts a wastepaper bin on the window ledge in the front room every night in case someone breaks in.

He would then hear the noise.
 

dutchman

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I'd rather give up than live in a gated facility.
Can't think of anything worse.
My dad wasn't too keen on it either but the estate was purchased by a Dutch-American billionaire so he has little say in the matter now. He did insist on a clause which prevents fences being erected between properties on the estate. The public road has also recently been closed to non-residents by the local council and there is a widely-believed conspiracy theory about who was behind that.

In the meantime there has been an explosion in crime in the city where he lives in recent weeks, very similar to that in Coventry.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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My dad wasn't too keen on it either but the estate was purchased by a Dutch-American billionaire so he has little say in the matter now. He did insist on a clause which prevents fences being erected between properties on the estate. The public road has also recently been closed to non-residents by the local council and there is a widely-believed conspiracy theory about who was behind that.

In the meantime there has been an explosion in crime in the city where he lives in recent weeks, very similar to that in Coventry.

Where's that, sorry?

I agree with Clint on this one. No one should have to live like that.
 

Nick

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Am I missing something? I thought it was just a load of houses that are inside a fence and a gate at the front for security rather than some sort of prison where people can't leave?
 

clint van damme

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Am I missing something? I thought it was just a load of houses that are inside a fence and a gate at the front for security rather than some sort of prison where people can't leave?

just my preference, it's not for me, if people want to live in them then that's fine.
 

Nick

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just my preference, it's not for me, if people want to live in them then that's fine.

Just trying to figure out if I am missing something about them (I have never been to one).

Is it much different to living in a big house with gates at the front?
 

dutchman

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Just trying to figure out if I am missing something about them (I have never been to one).

Is it much different to living in a big house with gates at the front?

Yeah. At my dad's place all the houses are behind a single set of gates and when you pull up you have to explain who you are before the gates are opened by remote control. I think each resident has a button they can push to operate the gates? The post boxes are all lumped together outside the gates as well.
 

Nick

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Yeah. At my dad's place all the houses are behind a single set of gates and when you pull up you have to explain who you are before the gates are opened by remote control. I think each resident has a button they can push to operate the gates? The post boxes are all lumped together outside the gates as well.

I'm not sure what the issue is with that? I wouldn't have an issue with living there.

It's not much different to a really quiet cul-de-sac anyway.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Eindhoven. The local newspaper headlines are virtually a carbon copy of those in the Coventry Telegraph. "Four teenagers arrested after robbing supermarket at knifepoint", "Nineteen armed robberies in just four days", etc. This in a Dutch town that was virtually crime free until recently.

I got engaged there (I know it's weird, long story). Seemed relatively nice in fairness.

Then again I was there for a weekend and didn't leave the main centre.
 

dutchman

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I got engaged there (I know it's weird, long story). Seemed relatively nice in fairness.

Then again I was there for a weekend and didn't leave the main centre.
No one can explain the sudden crime wave (in Eindhoven). Police numbers haven't been cut, there's no obvious racial element and the various incidents appear to be totally unrelated. For all I know the same thing is happening in towns everywhere.
 

Ashdown

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yeah, with their murder rate of nearly 34 people per 100,000 and ours of 1.22 we're catching them up!!

Using that logic I'm nearly as rich as Bill Gates!
Being murdered is rather extreme granted but there is quite an increase here now in car jackings, knife crime, car theft etc.......its not getting better that's for sure.
 

clint van damme

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Being murdered is rather extreme granted but there is quite an increase here now in car jackings, knife crime, car theft etc.......its not getting better that's for sure.

Without doubt. There's some nasty shit going on.
 

tommydazzle

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The police aren't the force they once were. I was approached by a constable recently and he said, ' I need you to accompany me to the station'. I asked why and he said because he was too scared to go on his own.
:eek:
 

Gazolba

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My dad puts a wastepaper bin on the window ledge in the front room every night in case someone breaks in.

He would then hear the noise.
I once saw a program on home security where a guy kept a bucket of broken glass by the door to throw down to repel home invaders.
Seems like he thought they'd be invading in bare feet.
 

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