covcity4life
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Burge 8
Willis 6
Hyam 6
Brown 6
Grimmer 7
Doyle 5
Bayliss 7
Thomas 7
Hiwula 5
Chaplin 6
Jch 6
Willis 6
Hyam 6
Brown 6
Grimmer 7
Doyle 5
Bayliss 7
Thomas 7
Hiwula 5
Chaplin 6
Jch 6
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DannyThomas_1981
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Gibbo 70% agreed with your comments. But the comment on JJ is not fair. In the very short time pre-injury he looked sharp and on his game.
stupot07
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Completely agree. Don't know what game they were watching. Won practically nothing in the air in the first half. Along with most of the team was pretty poor in that first half and despite one moment of closing the keeper looked disinterested. Better in the second half but never MOTM.
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Sky Blue Pete
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What was the score? 3-0 we must have lost yeah?
Otis
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Terry_dactyl
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Doyle did some good things - I enjoyed watching him clatter their player off the ball - but the mistake for the goal was woeful. It was compounded by the fact that he nearly did the same thing in the first half.
His set pieces were crap too.
Hiwula looks like he’s lacking in confidence.
I thought on the whole we looked solid and should’ve won the game. Grimmer was the best I’ve seen him in a while.
Bayliss is a joy to watch.
His set pieces were crap too.
Hiwula looks like he’s lacking in confidence.
I thought on the whole we looked solid and should’ve won the game. Grimmer was the best I’ve seen him in a while.
Bayliss is a joy to watch.
DazzleTommyDazzle
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Looked to me like a player very short on confidence. So did Chaplin, but hopefully his goal will give him a boost.
DazzleTommyDazzle
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Looked to me like a player very short on confidence. So did Chaplin, but hopefully his goal will give him a boost.
Grendel
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Why? Most scored a 6 or 7 - strange remark
Warwickhunt
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I thought JCH was ok and did a mans job against two very sinister centre backs who were constantly pushing, pulling, wrestling him all match
eastwoodsdustman
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Doyle’s had slating for giving the ball away and rightly so. I will point out that for the second game in a row Hyams negativity with the ball has brought pressure on us. He did it time and again vs Burton and again last night which culminated in conceding possession for the goal. In the last two games he has taken the ball forward once that I can recall which is only going to result on teams pressing us more. Thought JCH had a really good game winning possession time and again and turning his man loads. Two centre halves were ok but got the run around a bit from Toney. Burge made some good saves but was a bit slow coming for balls and hesitated a couple of times when he could have collected the ball. Other than that it was a decent game that could have gone either way.
As for ratings :
Burge 7
Grimmer 7.5
Brown 7
Hyam 6
Willis 6
Hiwula 5
Doyle 6
Bayliss 7
Thomas 7
JCH 7.5 my MoM
Chaplin 6
Jones na
Baka 7
As for ratings :
Burge 7
Grimmer 7.5
Brown 7
Hyam 6
Willis 6
Hiwula 5
Doyle 6
Bayliss 7
Thomas 7
JCH 7.5 my MoM
Chaplin 6
Jones na
Baka 7
pusbccfc
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But with Chaplin you can actual see his ability. His touch is very good and he looks alert.
Hiwula looks like a player playing well above his level.
steve82
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Burge 7
Grimmer 7.5
Willis 7.5
Hyam 7
Brown 7
Hiwula 5
Doyle 6.5
Bayliss 6.5
Thomas 7
Jch 7
Chaplin 6.5
Jones -
Bakayoko 6
The draw was a fair result in my eyes tho both teams could of or should of won it.
Although Tom Bayliss put a excellent second half performance but was not much short of abysmal in the 1st 45 mins. Thomas has a great game but we really need some end product from him but in reality that why he’s here. Him and Tom Bayliss guilty of being so wasteful in varying ways but we’re a young side, you will get that. Hiwula’s performance on the left and JJ looking like he’s tweaked his knee says everything about what we need in January.
Willis and Grimmer my stand out players for the night
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Grimmer 7.5
Willis 7.5
Hyam 7
Brown 7
Hiwula 5
Doyle 6.5
Bayliss 6.5
Thomas 7
Jch 7
Chaplin 6.5
Jones -
Bakayoko 6
The draw was a fair result in my eyes tho both teams could of or should of won it.
Although Tom Bayliss put a excellent second half performance but was not much short of abysmal in the 1st 45 mins. Thomas has a great game but we really need some end product from him but in reality that why he’s here. Him and Tom Bayliss guilty of being so wasteful in varying ways but we’re a young side, you will get that. Hiwula’s performance on the left and JJ looking like he’s tweaked his knee says everything about what we need in January.
Willis and Grimmer my stand out players for the night
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon
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I thought a draw was fair given the amount of chances both sides wasted to win it, very frustrating not to have won it really.
Burge 7 - Saved whenever called upon but his kicking was sometimes poor. I feel far more confident in him than I have before though, seems to have improved well over the last couple of seasons.
Brown 7 - Solid most of the time and I think he's generally quite composed when in possession. Sometimes borders on complacency but he's improving.
Hyam 7 - Rarely looked troubled and defended well.
Willis 7 - As with Hyam.
Grimmer 7 - Part of a solid back 4. Looked to go forward well at times but I'd replace him with Sterling when he's back. A more than capable back-up.
Hiwula 5 - Not a good night for him at all. If he'd bundled in JCH's flick from that corner it might have done him some good...but he didn't.
Doyle 5 - Generally I thought he did what was required and got stuck in. However he/we got punished for a glaring error that brings him down.
Bayliss 6 - Would have been more if he had found some end product on one of the many occasions he burst through.
Thomas 7 - Again would have scored higher had he found a finish/cross at the right time. Higher than Bayliss based on his tenacity and workrate.
JCH 6 - Won a fair bit in the air and held it up ok, it just doesn't seem to be working at present between him and Chaplin.
Chaplin 6 - Like with JCH he did quite a bit of good work but just doesn't seem to be getting into the right positions to score.
Jones 5 - Not enough time to make an impact. Looked to run with the ball when he had it and I'm hoping the injury isn't a bad one.
Bakayoko 7 - Made a real impact in the little time he had. Plenty of effort, defensive work and also provided the crucial assist.
Burge 7 - Saved whenever called upon but his kicking was sometimes poor. I feel far more confident in him than I have before though, seems to have improved well over the last couple of seasons.
Brown 7 - Solid most of the time and I think he's generally quite composed when in possession. Sometimes borders on complacency but he's improving.
Hyam 7 - Rarely looked troubled and defended well.
Willis 7 - As with Hyam.
Grimmer 7 - Part of a solid back 4. Looked to go forward well at times but I'd replace him with Sterling when he's back. A more than capable back-up.
Hiwula 5 - Not a good night for him at all. If he'd bundled in JCH's flick from that corner it might have done him some good...but he didn't.
Doyle 5 - Generally I thought he did what was required and got stuck in. However he/we got punished for a glaring error that brings him down.
Bayliss 6 - Would have been more if he had found some end product on one of the many occasions he burst through.
Thomas 7 - Again would have scored higher had he found a finish/cross at the right time. Higher than Bayliss based on his tenacity and workrate.
JCH 6 - Won a fair bit in the air and held it up ok, it just doesn't seem to be working at present between him and Chaplin.
Chaplin 6 - Like with JCH he did quite a bit of good work but just doesn't seem to be getting into the right positions to score.
Jones 5 - Not enough time to make an impact. Looked to run with the ball when he had it and I'm hoping the injury isn't a bad one.
Bakayoko 7 - Made a real impact in the little time he had. Plenty of effort, defensive work and also provided the crucial assist.
Paxman II
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I never normally get involved with this as it's so objective.
We all watch the same game but draw different conclusions because our personal idea of 'coaching' or 'knowledge' of the game varies so much.
You can only rate a player on what his job in the team is and how well he performed it plus did he go above and beyond? brown certainly came across the central defensive line to save Williss a few times for example.
Burge 7 Steady and a couple of good stops.
Grimmer 6.5 Did better and some good defensive work.
Hyam 6.5 Assured but dragged out of position a few times
Willis 6 Not as good lately, turned too easily and missed several headers
Brown 8 Excellent all game, confident, gave 100%, good feet.
Thomas 7 Flatters to deceive as the end product more often fails him, but is a big threat. Should have scored. Faded 2nd half
Bayliss 7.5 Had a good game but too many final balls just not reaching their target.
Doyle 6 Struggled with the oppo's game plan on him. Got caught a few times and of course the mistake. Still offers a lot.
Hiwula 5 Started brightly but never got going. Pull a shot wide when easier to get on target. Slight confidence issue I think.
Clarke Harris 6.5 A better game from him, involved a lot but his vision and end product shows his ability at this level.
Chaplin 7 Ran all day for crumbs. Got to get on the shoulder of the defenders more and in the box. Believe Bako' would be a better partner.
We all watch the same game but draw different conclusions because our personal idea of 'coaching' or 'knowledge' of the game varies so much.
You can only rate a player on what his job in the team is and how well he performed it plus did he go above and beyond? brown certainly came across the central defensive line to save Williss a few times for example.
Burge 7 Steady and a couple of good stops.
Grimmer 6.5 Did better and some good defensive work.
Hyam 6.5 Assured but dragged out of position a few times
Willis 6 Not as good lately, turned too easily and missed several headers
Brown 8 Excellent all game, confident, gave 100%, good feet.
Thomas 7 Flatters to deceive as the end product more often fails him, but is a big threat. Should have scored. Faded 2nd half
Bayliss 7.5 Had a good game but too many final balls just not reaching their target.
Doyle 6 Struggled with the oppo's game plan on him. Got caught a few times and of course the mistake. Still offers a lot.
Hiwula 5 Started brightly but never got going. Pull a shot wide when easier to get on target. Slight confidence issue I think.
Clarke Harris 6.5 A better game from him, involved a lot but his vision and end product shows his ability at this level.
Chaplin 7 Ran all day for crumbs. Got to get on the shoulder of the defenders more and in the box. Believe Bako' would be a better partner.
Gibbo
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I am buggered if I can see Chaplin's ability. He is endlessly cross with other players for not putting the ball where he says he wanted it, when he was not in a good position in the first place. He lacks the basic speed over 5-6 yards you need and seems rarely to think of going to the near post, when that is the most likely destination for a Thomas or Grimmer cross.
Hiwula's misses were not bad because he missed, but the manner of them. However when he had a pass blasted at him from 15 yards he did control it really well with his chest
Sky Blue Pete
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1 and a3
Londonccfcfan
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Burge 7....dare I say it mr dependable.
Brown 7.5.....His best performance for us.
Hyam 7
Willis 7
Grimmer 7...was obvious he gets better the more he gets match fit.
Hiwula...5....he even got in the way of Bayliss shot that looked like was on target.
Doyle 7....Had one of his better displays, barring that mistake at the end
Bayliss 8....Absolute Rolls Royce. Hope there was no scouts watching.
Thomas 8
Chaplin. 7...how was he MOTM before he scored?
JCH....8 Excellent hold up play, wish he would try to shoot more as he has a lethal left foot.
Baka...7....looked completely lost, but somehow comes up with the assist.
I think we shaded the game as a whole and looked a good team, the team dynamics were excellent. Really good to see us close to back to our best.
Brown 7.5.....His best performance for us.
Hyam 7
Willis 7
Grimmer 7...was obvious he gets better the more he gets match fit.
Hiwula...5....he even got in the way of Bayliss shot that looked like was on target.
Doyle 7....Had one of his better displays, barring that mistake at the end
Bayliss 8....Absolute Rolls Royce. Hope there was no scouts watching.
Thomas 8
Chaplin. 7...how was he MOTM before he scored?
JCH....8 Excellent hold up play, wish he would try to shoot more as he has a lethal left foot.
Baka...7....looked completely lost, but somehow comes up with the assist.
I think we shaded the game as a whole and looked a good team, the team dynamics were excellent. Really good to see us close to back to our best.
Philosoraptor
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steve82
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Bayliss a Rolls Royce? Was fit for the scrap yard that first half was a shadow of the player we seen last year. Indecisive, void of any creativity, constantly told where to be by Doyle.
2nd half a much improved performance by far but by far a complete performance.
As for the shot that hit Hiwula he really should of played him in, poor decision to shoot at that point. He had better options, even dropping the shoulder left to get a clearer shot as Hiwula created a gap to his left
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Grendel
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I thought Hiwula was appalling and Doyle begind the game - also his appalling set pieces were accounted for
Gibbo
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Yes you are probably right, a bit too harsh - I retract
Gibbo
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But the sum of the parts is quite indicative and has been a predictor of change in the side
ps1948
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Gibbo, I'm afraid I disagree with you about Chaplin - I think he's got a football brain that's sharper than many of his team-mates, and especially JCH. His flick that put Thomas through for the penalty that wasn't given was brilliant. I said to my (equally ancient) mate last night that he reminded me a lot of Roger van Gool, who was, in my opinion, also so far ahead of his team-mates that he didn't look as good as he should have.
I do agree about Hiwula though - I think Robbins should have taken him off earlier - it was clear that it wasn't going to be his night.
Gibbo
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My main bug bears are that he is too slow over the ground and that he does not go to the front post enough - the latter indicates a not very good football brain
Nick
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I've noticed that nobody makes runs to the post. If Thomas is making a run down the right, whoever is on the left should be making the run inside the box from the left to be at the far post (and vice versa).
A good example is Baka against Charlton. We don't really seem to see many goals like that.
stupot07
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JCH Doesn't even look like he's interested in scoring. Very frustrating, we get the ball out wide and very few players are in the box, and like you say, no one going front post either.
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Nick
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If you watch other teams, they always have players following it in. Every time Burton got the ball wide they had about 3 players in. When we do we have 1 at most against all of their defenders.
It means the ball has to be perfect and if not they can clear it unchallenged.
stupot07
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It was the same last season too. We seem to be decent on the counter and on set pieces but in possession I'm still not sure what the plan is to score goals.
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Spurs 'City Away Kit' Kit
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Thomas also needs to put the ball in a lot quicker, he seems to hesitate and take a couple of extra steps that gives defenders a chance to block or cut off men in the box. Like his pace and keenness to keep pushing forward at pace.
steve82
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Two varying types of physical players playing a modern version of a target man type lead role last night. JCH and Toney of Peterborough.
JCH works more back to goal looks to win it and that tends to be him done. Ivan Toney looked to win it then was moving towards goal then either with the ball or look to be a threat again in the next phase of play.
Would you swap JCH for Toney, or think JCH could play that way in this role MR is asking him to play.
I think I would swap
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Nick
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The thing is, Chaplin also wants to play with his back to goal rather than make runs in behind.