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martcov

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Nick said:
About as homely as somebody elses team in ours which you are so keen to defend...
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Again... Wasps = Rugby team, CCFC = football team. There is no other professional football team in Coventry... And I am talking about football - CCFC and Nuneaton Town. You are referring to a Rugby team.... As usual. wasps wasps wasps
 
Nick

Nick

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martcov said:
Again... Wasps = Rugby team, CCFC = football team. There is no other professional football team in Coventry... And I am talking about football - CCFC and Nuneaton Town. You are referring to a Rugby team.... As usual. wasps wasps wasps
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Because the double standards are shocking
 
CJ_covblaze

CJ_covblaze

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torchomatic said:
I wonder if Solihull Barons fans felt the same?
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I was more than happy with our move to Coventry. Posted this earlier on this thread if you'd bothered to read it.


CJ_covblaze said:
Couldn't agree more. You're right some will have said that. If they had accepted the deal though laid on by SISU it's like me accepting a bid from you for my house at a reduced rate and my mates having a go at you for accepting the deal. Who's fault is that?

Yes Hockey is a franchised sport, football isn't. In hockey you can move a club from it's community (isn't liked in all cases and is rare), you only get put in the penalty box for two minutes for hitting someone with your stick across the chest, get put in there for 5 minutes for decking someone and get no penalty for flattening a player against the boards. None of these things are remotely acceptable in football because it's a different sport.

I've gone into the reasons behind our move before. I won't go into it too far and bore everyone this time so I'll be brief. We had no choice. The rink was falling to bits and we weren't able to renovate it or build a new facility in Solihull. The fans accepted the move, most continued to support the club in Coventry and continue do so now (I fall into all 3 of these brackets).

It's similar to Wasps in a way. Fans are behind it and they've bettered themselves.

None of the above applies to our move to Bermuda.
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bigfatronssba

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chiefdave said:
Interesting reading that article. At the time wasn't the rumour that Manhattan met with CCC and decided they couldn't work with them. It's laughable now to think the Shaprio bid was labeled derisory by the council as it would mean CCC writing off £4m and Higgs not getting every penny back, not to mention they dared to ask for a lease extension and some land to develop!
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Why should the club have to do the councils job of developing the area?
 
chiefdave

chiefdave

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bigfatronssba said:
Why should the club have to do the councils job of developing the area?
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Think you've missed the point. According to that article CCC dismissed the offer from Shaprio as derisory as they wanted some land by the stadium to develop. They then spent the next few years moaning that SISU wouldn't develop the land around the Ricoh for them.
 
bigfatronssba

bigfatronssba

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chiefdave said:
Think you've missed the point. According to that article CCC dismissed the offer from Shaprio as derisory as they wanted some land by the stadium to develop. They then spent the next few years moaning that SISU wouldn't develop the land around the Ricoh for them.
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Does highlight the fact though that at least one potential Ccfc owner saw the benefits of developing the surrounding area.
 
Astute

Astute

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Nick said:
Because the double standards are shocking
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Do you mean like some never have a go at SISU because we all know that they are in the wrong, but the same people are constantly having a go at the Wasps owners when we all know that they are in the wrong?
 
Nick

Nick

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Astute said:
Do you mean like some never have a go at SISU because we all know that they are in the wrong, but the same people are constantly having a go at the Wasps owners when we all know that they are in the wrong?
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Who is having a go at wasps owners? I'm just copying and pasting people's comments back to them ;)

There were more city fans on here defending wasps owners than there are sisu also. Some people will seem to fight until their death that wasps arent doing anything wrong and are amazing , hence the posts back ;)
 
Grendel

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CJ_covblaze said:
Couldn't agree more. You're right some will have said that. If they had accepted the deal though laid on by SISU it's like me accepting a bid from you for my house at a reduced rate and my mates having a go at you for accepting the deal. Who's fault is that?

Yes Hockey is a franchised sport, football isn't. In hockey you can move a club from it's community (isn't liked in all cases and is rare), you only get put in the penalty box for two minutes for hitting someone with your stick across the chest, get put in there for 5 minutes for decking someone and get no penalty for flattening a player against the boards. None of these things are remotely acceptable in football because it's a different sport.

I've gone into the reasons behind our move before. I won't go into it too far and bore everyone this time so I'll be brief. We had no choice. The rink was falling to bits and we weren't able to renovate it or build a new facility in Solihull. The fans accepted the move, most continued to support the club in Coventry and continue do so now (I fall into all 3 of these brackets).

It's similar to Wasps in a way. Fans are behind it and they've bettered themselves.

None of the above applies to our move to Bermuda.
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“Fans are behind it and they’ve bettered themselves”
 
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riched1992

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Ha Ha bloody hell 4 years ago and just like the thread on here now, just a slightly different arguement. Talk about going round in circles!!!!
 
CJ_covblaze

CJ_covblaze

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Grendel said:
“Fans are behind it and they’ve bettered themselves”
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They were generally. It was a long time ago but from what I recall there were no protests from anyone. The facility wasn't up to standard and the move had to happen as there was nowhere else to go. Within a year or so the team that was assembled was ridiculously good. It knocks spots off any playing in the league right now.
 
Nick

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CJ_covblaze said:
They were generally. It was a long time ago but from what I recall there were no protests from anyone. The facility wasn't up to standard and the move had to happen as there was nowhere else to go. Within a year or so the team that was assembled was ridiculously good. It knocks spots off any playing in the league right now.
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You have walked right into that one again.
 
CJ_covblaze

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CJ_covblaze

CJ_covblaze

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Nick said:
The point he was making. :(
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I don't follow. There's a difference between the two. CCFC left a 32k stadium to move to shed and ended up paying more rent than if they'd stayed at that 32k stadium. The Blaze had no rink to play at. Proper fan consultation took place and pretty much everyone was happy with what was put forward. The team (which admittedly had been so good that we got bored of winning) improved massively. Everything got better and the fans were integral to that. It's sad that, that aspect of the club has almost disappeared now. It pretty much went the moment the heartbeat of it left for pastures new.
 
Nick

Nick

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CJ_covblaze said:
I don't follow. There's a difference between the two. CCFC left a 32k stadium to move to shed and ended up paying more rent than if they'd stayed at that 32k stadium. The Blaze had no rink to play at. Proper fan consultation took place and pretty much everyone was happy with what was put forward. The team (which admittedly had been so good that we got bored of winning) improved massively. Everything got better and the fans were integral to that. It's sad that, that aspect of the club has almost disappeared now. It pretty much went the moment the heartbeat of it left for pastures new.
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He was only on about the Wasps bit though. I assume to try and prove a point.
 
CJ_covblaze

CJ_covblaze

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Nick said:
He was only on about the Wasps bit though. I assume to try and prove a point.
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Ah ok. He didn't say that. I get where you're coming from now. What point is he proving?

EDIT: If it's the bit about bettering themselves and fans being behind the move that was pretty much the case wasn't it? What was their average gate at Adams Park? 3000-4000? I would hazard a guess that the vast majority of those 3-4k were traveling to the Ricoh in the beginning and probably still are now.
 
CJ_covblaze

CJ_covblaze

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Nick said:
He just quoted a certain bit.

From reading it, I'd guess his point was that there was no opposition to a sports club moving.
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See the edit above. I guess I was looking at it from a Wasps point of view. I don't agree with their methods but understand why they did it.
 
cc84cov

cc84cov

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EFL said we can’t play outside the City so don’t think it would ever happen anyway Ricoh or Bust & I feel sisu will have to approach them as they only have 12 games left there this season Wasps have a lot longer.
 
letsallsingtogether

letsallsingtogether

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CJ_covblaze said:
See the edit above. I guess I was looking at it from a Wasps point of view. I don't agree with their methods but understand why they did it.
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The funny thing is the ones who moan about a sports club moving away are the ones who follow their own when it moves.

I for one will not follow CCFC out of the city for home games, funnily enough I would not go to Wasps games either even though I do like watching Rugby.
 
Nick

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letsallsingtogether said:
The funny thing is the ones who moan about a sports club moving away are the ones who follow their own when it moves.

I for one will not follow CCFC out of the city for home games, funnily enough I would not go to Wasps games either even though I do like watching Rugby.
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How many on here would follow a permanent move 80 miles? I 100% wouldn't.

Your point doesnt work.
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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letsallsingtogether said:
The funny thing is the ones who moan about a sports club moving away are the ones who follow their own when it moves.

I for one will not follow CCFC out of the city for home games, funnily enough I would not go to Wasps games either even though I do like watching Rugby.
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You wouldn’t have to. If CCFC don’t extend their deal at the Ricoh there won’t be a CCFC according to those up top.
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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CJ_covblaze said:
Ah ok. He didn't say that. I get where you're coming from now. What point is he proving?

EDIT: If it's the bit about bettering themselves and fans being behind the move that was pretty much the case wasn't it? What was their average gate at Adams Park? 3000-4000? I would hazard a guess that the vast majority of those 3-4k were traveling to the Ricoh in the beginning and probably still are now.
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Your logic is all over the place. Perhaps CCFC should have moved out to Villa Park and not Northampton, that's a better stadium so more acceptable.
 
CJ_covblaze

CJ_covblaze

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fernandopartridge said:
Your logic is all over the place. Perhaps CCFC should have moved out to Villa Park and not Northampton, that's a better stadium so more acceptable.
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That’s debatable.
 
Nick

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CovInEssex said:
Never heard anyone refer to Bermuda as Bedworth. It's either Bermuda or Nuneaton. Bedworth stops at the speed camera in Collycroft
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Not Bermuda Village as such. When people were talking about it they meant the land to the side of the A444 before you get to the cinema. (opposite Sutherland Drive estate).
 
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