Open Letter to Supporters (35 Viewers)
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The full page advert in the Coventry Telegraph is a idea but why stop there why not the national press Daily Mirror would be my choice. Of course it costs money but we have money people locally who might donate a group of whom bidding to buy the club a while back. Our most potent weapon at this time is to get at Wasps it is their stance that threatens the life of our football club.
I don't know I didn't have time to read 7 pages only had time to skim, hence the question
Of the 10 people I used to go with only I am within 100 miles of Coventry now. People don't hang around these days
The car analogy is a bad one. If you were in a car heading for a brick wall you would at least put the brakes on. You would be at fault if the car crashed, but that wouldn’t help the car.
Would like to see the council trying to something together with the „club“ though, as a collapse wouldn’t do the city any good either. I suspect Wasps are not in a good place financially which means they need the club and the good will of the local population.
Nick
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No, i was talking about somebody purposely controlling things. Ie driving into things on purpose.
ricohroar
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Could Wasps strike a deal with CCFC and not the owners to secure the clubs future at the Ricoh? I have no idea if possible but just an idea to throw out there.
Could they allow CCFC to play home games at the Ricoh and themselves control the ticket sales to supporters, match day hospitality etc. thus offering CCFC a home but not allowing the owners of CCFC to control it?
Could they allow CCFC to play home games at the Ricoh and themselves control the ticket sales to supporters, match day hospitality etc. thus offering CCFC a home but not allowing the owners of CCFC to control it?
Nick
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The deal to play there is with CCFC and not the owners anyway.
Not all of us. I have followed Wasps from Loftus Road to Adams Park to The Ricoh. I'll be a Wasp until I die. But I will be seriously pissed off if CCFC go under because of any action of ours.
What I don't get though is that if CCFC and SISU are genuinely separate entities why CCFC fans are putting pressure on Wasps and not on SISU Wasps can't stop the legal action, SISU can..
I'll join you in that campaign.
pastythegreat
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No but w***s can do the right thing (regardless of legal action) and stick to their word (secure the long term future of CCFC) that they agreed to in the terms of the sale of the Ricoh Arena
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Nick
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I did refer to that most of the people wanting to see CCFC die had mostly only supported Wasps for a couple of years.
Putting pressure on Wasps isn't saying that SISU are the goodies. It's far from it. It's trying to put pressure to get a result (which is Coventry having somewhere to play). We have already seen Wasps say that CCFC can't play there while there are legals, pull out of talks to then just enter talks and agree a deal. It is pretty much a negotiation tactic (as it was said last year).
If Wasps were to wipe SISU out (rather than CCFC) then even from the most avid Wasps Haters they would be commended!
You are saying that only SISU can stop legal action (which is correct). Wasps can also allow CCFC to play there and that is much more likely than the first option for ccfc fans.
Either way, whoever caused the crash is guilty, but it doesn’t help the car.
Nick
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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The blunt way of saying is we’ve tried to oust SISU for years and they’ve shown they don’t care.
Wasps on the other hand are trying to gain a foothold in the city, and being complicit in the death of its 130 year old, founding member of the premier league football team wouldn’t be good.
With their finances, they would be a weaker target. I’ve championed this and once the deal is done we go back to fighting SISU
the rumpo kid
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A bit like saying it wasn't me who ran that child over it was my car.
Nick
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Thing is, they aren't saying anything. Everybody is just kicking shit out of the car while the driver stays quiet.
Don't think anybody would have an issue if everybody dragged the driver out of the car and gave them a hiding, don't stand there kicking the car though.
the rumpo kid
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Both to closely linked to separate
shmmeee
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Problem is it’s a self driving car
the rumpo kid
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One cant operate without the other
Nick
Administrator
Yes they can. The driver can operate without a car. The car can operate with a better driver.
mark_ccfc
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At the end of the day, the simplest solution to all of this is for SISU to drop all of the legal action and make a proper long term deal with Wasps for coventry to play at the Ricoh.
If we have a repeat of last year, with another year long deal being struck, it will just be wash rinse repeat and we will all be having this debate again next year. As far as I am concerned the ball is still in SISUs court.
If we have a repeat of last year, with another year long deal being struck, it will just be wash rinse repeat and we will all be having this debate again next year. As far as I am concerned the ball is still in SISUs court.
clint van damme
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it is the simplest solution, but it's also the most unlikely I reckon.
Nick
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I assumed it was done by a kid so didn't really comment?
chiefdave
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To be fair the Wasps fans who were around prior to their move do seem more sympathetic but the newer fans seem quite happy to see CCFC go under.
To keep something that has been going on for over 10 years as simple as possible its just the fact that everything has been tried against SISU and failed.
We've had protests before, during and after games, both home and away, including disrupting games and forcing them to be temporarily halted. We've had marches through the city, boycotts, protests at their offices in London and anything else you can think of. All of that has had exactly zero impact. SISU couldn't care less about the football club and certainly don't care about the fans or any upset they would be caused if the club folded.
So the reality is either Wasps change their stance or the club don't have a home next season. Unlike SISU Wasps have shown themselves to be very sensitive to adverse publicity so any pressure placed on them is far more likely to be successful.
And of course there's the issue that assurances were made by Wasps when purchasing the stadium that it would not be to the detriment of the football club yet not long later their actions could see the football club cease to exist. Saying they can't be expected to deal with someone taking legal action doesn't hold up as an argument as they purchased the stadium, and made the assurances about the football clubs future, knowing there was ongoing legal action. They also made an agreement a year ago when the legal action was ongoing.
I quite like it to be honest.
You have always had a lot of sympathy for our owners.
clint van damme
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how on earth do you see anything in CDs post that is sympathetic to the owners?
He's basically saying they have rhino thick skins and don't give a single fuck, I think he's spot on.
If we want to save our club then going down a different route and pressurising Wasps by ensuring this episode gives them bad PR seems a valid suggestion.
Like I said in an earlier post, that may not be fair, but if you're a CCFC supporter why would you give a fuck, this is about saving our club.
Nick
Administrator
How do you get to that from that post?
Like I said, people give it the SISU lover line and 9 times out of 10 they won't bother with CCFC themselves anyway.
Joy Division
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So using your analogy if I want to hire a car from you for a period of time that you own who do I speak to to arrange that, the car or you?
Nick
Administrator
I wouldn't hire a car out, if you wanted to buy it you would have to speak to me.
Is it Seppalla / Coleman who discuss with Wasps or people like Boddy? We saw with the academy that it was Richard Stevens / Boddy who sorted that deal.
Warwickhunt
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Probably the next deal from WASPs will be 1 Million a season!!
Joy Division
Well-Known Member
I'd either speak to you or the people you employ to get the best deal for the car, not the car itself.
Nick
Administrator
What's your point?
Yes, if somebody wanted to buy the club they would need to speak to SISU.