chiefdave
Well-Known Member
The trust can take a stance on something without telling people how to spend their money. Why not just make it very clear the trust does not think Wasps should be in Coventry.
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CJ_covblaze
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Great idea. I’ll add it to the list. My initial thoughts would be to combine the two. What I would say is my open invitation is an opportunity for people to put themselves forwards to help us do something. We need good numbers so have to start somewhere. It should be sooner rather than later too as we don’t have many opportunities left to do it. How many home games are there left? 2? 3 maybe?
pastythegreat
Well-Known Member
I don't think so much as telling people what to do/how to spend their money (although members of the trust do encourage people to NOPM).
The trust could use their platform and ask/request people stay away for a game. Obviously w***s fans (the proper ones from London) won't listen. But anybody from Coventry, people who support CCFC, ANYBODY IN THE CITY THAT CCFC GOING BUST AFFECTS!!! Just stay away for 1 match. Show w***s what were capable of when they drop from 14k fans to 5k fans writhing a week. If you put the squeeze on CCFC, this is what our squeeze can do in return sort of thing.
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christonabike
Well-Known Member
Jesus what a meltdown.
We as fans don’t have the millions of pounds to change anything. All this arguing is just tearing people apart. SISU and Wasps are in a position to see who blinks first and protests and sit ins are all very nice but will mean fook all.
Money talks and I’d love us to create a fund to buy SISU out etc but we are talking £10m which is beyond our reach and investors who have had a butchers already.
Fook em we have no choice but to just support OUR team to the end.
PUSB
We as fans don’t have the millions of pounds to change anything. All this arguing is just tearing people apart. SISU and Wasps are in a position to see who blinks first and protests and sit ins are all very nice but will mean fook all.
Money talks and I’d love us to create a fund to buy SISU out etc but we are talking £10m which is beyond our reach and investors who have had a butchers already.
Fook em we have no choice but to just support OUR team to the end.
PUSB
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
Heard on the radio the other day that the bus gates, where they were told to replace the signs despite insisting they weren't misleading, now only have a fraction of the amount of penalties being issued.
Nick
Administrator
Exactly. He is like a mr loophole where he sees something and knows they are bullshitting.
Imagine if he was onboard hassling them about CCFC too?
CJ_covblaze
Well-Known Member
Who’s that?
Grendel
Well-Known Member
It’s truly revealing your real views on wasps being here - which was always obvious despite your faux pas outrage
Nick
Administrator
More Coventry council bus gate signs change – after long campaign against drivers’ fines
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This was the first link I found.
He seems to make the council's life a nightmare when it comes to road signs / road safety.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
The fact is you are a representative of a clubs trust that has been here for well over a century, the fact you can not even bring yourself to suggest people of the city should not support a franchise movement proves you are unfit for purpose in your role.
Just resign
CJ_covblaze
Well-Known Member
I bet some individuals from the Canmango and SISU hierarchies are sat there reading some of the stuff we post on here and are having a bloody good laugh at our expense. Do they care about us at all?
Grendel
Well-Known Member
What in certain of is people like Eastwood and Duggins will be slipping your mates a few more free tickets and promising you all a seat at the top table at AFC Coventry
I hope you enjoy it
Nick
Administrator
To be fair, Duggins is going to the press taking the piss about being confident about Public Relations after he made something up completely.
I'd say people are laughing their heads off.
Same with people like PWKH going back.
They can get away with whatever they want, if there's a bit of heat on them they whisper "SISU did it" and it disappears.
letsallsingtogether
Well-Known Member
Well dont expect any help from those on here that's for sure.
Grendel and co will scream and shout but won't come along that's for sure best just do it on your own 200 leaflets should be enough.
letsallsingtogether
Well-Known Member
And at the first Wasps game both only had 5 people max turn up.
These posters on here are a joke have done nothing but winger and cry but have organised nothing and turned up for nothing.
Let them believe the bullshit they push they will never change expect everyone to do their dirty work for them.
Let them now pick up their own shit.
letsallsingtogether
Well-Known Member
So what if I did was it wrong to do so or should I have joined the queue to suck Tim's cock.
Nick
Administrator
Would the trust have let you off your lead?
Ps to be fair the queue was bigger than the one for the beers
Nick
Administrator
Can you point out what bullshit is pushed? You are more than welcome to correct things.
Have you posted the link about us having the 18th wage budget this season yet?
Let's face it, I had to explain to you who was boycotting out of your mates as you didn't seem to know.
People keep banging on about the council one, yeah the one that was meant to be before the game in the evening but got moved at about 10am to be about 2pm.
Can you post a link to the wasps one on the trust site?
I don't expect you will do either, you will try and have a remark about somebody asking you for links and that will be that.
mark82
Super Moderator
I was with you until the second line when you decided to do exactly what the previous poster did and just hurl abuse at someone who took a different stance to you.
Were you wrong to stand on the hill - no.
Were people wrong to go to games at Sixfields - no.
It's a personal choice. People can do what they want. FFS. Not sure why we, as a fan base, have to constantly be on at each other. Anyone would think it's only 5 year old kids that use this forum, not grown adults.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Grendel will find an excuse. Something like I’m going and I voted labour in the last election so it will really be a socialist rally not a protest against Wasps and he won’t mix with socialist in case it means he’s a socialist by default so the Trust doesn’t represent him not in his name blah blah blah. I think I’ve covered all the angles. He won’t involve himself that’s for sure but it won’t stop him labelling those involved as fickle and if it does all go tits up and the club ceases to exist it wasn’t his fault for doing nothing other than being a keyboard hero and getting so upset when someone called Tim a wanker to his face at a train station that he had to start a thread arguing that Tim isn’t a wanker, instead it will be everyone who tried something fault.
CJ_covblaze
Well-Known Member
What my mates get up to is up to them. I don’t have the slightest inclination in being involved in running a football club. I’ve been there, done that already & it’s not something I’d want to do again.
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
What the fuck are you talking about?
letsallsingtogether
Well-Known Member
Did I say it was on the trust site no, did I say it was organised by them no, but for your information the 4 that turned up were all members of the trust.
My Brother put it on here in a post invited the likes of you and torch etc but you never turned up not surprised really you are just talk.
You think you are the only one who has to go to work well sorry some of us took time off when we found out the council had changed the time.
Funny how you keep up with stuff when you want.
Well it's all water under the bridge now to little to late.
letsallsingtogether
Well-Known Member
Just being dragged down to the level of this thread.
Nick
Administrator
Lots of people go to work. However, not many can say at 10am that they need to go at 2pm. However at 5-6pm before the game it's more doable.
This thread is about the trust isn't it and trust action? Hence I asked if it was on the trust site.
It's funny that people like you jump in when there's constructive feedback for the trust, it's no wonder if ends up just being pointless stuff time and time again.
I'm hardly all talk, if there's something I think has legs I'll back it. The same as I have and will today's trust article. The same as when I offered to help the trust out and spent a few hours doing something to not even get a reply.
Stick to your bubble of shouty people.
usskyblue
Well-Known Member
Keep digging m8
Legia Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
It seems ironic that the most vehement posters on here calling for protests against the council or Wasps have often been the same people moaning like fuck about how futile direct action has been against SISU. While Wasps and the Council have an indirect interest in the fortunes of CCFC, it is SISU who are charged with running the club and working for its interests, so surely its understandable why any protests will primarily focus on them. I also wonder how many of the posters on this thread, would be prepared to leave the comfort of their keyboard to effectively protest against the council or Wasps, if any such protests were organised.
Nick
Administrator
It seems you haven't really read it or aren't understanding it.
People are calling for pressure on all parties, why does that instantly translate to getting some pickets going?
People have no interest in thinking further than and about and shout.
Why do people insist on not really reading things, ending up with a conclusion that's miles off?
rob9872
Well-Known Member
Did it work? Have SISU gone? Did Wasps start fresh talks? Have the council apologised and given the club a good fair deal? Let me make if easy for you. No. You're pissing in the wind. Focus your energy on supporting the team. You do know there's a football club behind this political crap I assume? It us what we all joined this board to discuss many moons ago.
olderskyblue
Well-Known Member
It seems to me that we have a few candidates on here who should stand for election onto the trust board.
usskyblue
Well-Known Member
As we stand at the minute sisu might well be gone by about May but so will our football club, well out of the EFL at least. From what I can gather Wasps ain’t going to blink.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
As I say to my three year old, forget what you don’t want, what do you want?
Whenever someone tries to pin you down it’s all “where have I said I want x??”
Do me a favour, answer this without any synonym for the word “pressure”:
What do you think should be done?
What action would you hope to result?
Nick
Administrator
I think there should be pressure on all sides. Each party is different so would have different things that piss them off / get to them.
For example Wasps, I have never suggested going and disrupting their games or pissing off their fans. I have made a point of saying it's not their fans fault (even though a minority who want to ccfc die can do one). Whenever there is a whiff of negativity they try to cover it up, take the Higgs stuff as an example. In the days leading up to it there were some really strange accounts on here signing up and not doing much. The news came out about Wasps trying to move into the Higgs and they strangely appeared on it, then there were accounts which had signed up a couple of years ago making a return.
Wasps have shown they are worried about some negative PR in the city, they are trying to build here and need to be liked. So me saying to pressure them doesn't have to mean stand outside a match shouting scabs at their fans as that's just as pointless as doing it at our matches.
As Liquid Gold has said, ask them some basic questions openly and demand answers. Name and shame them and make sure that all of the press know about it like they do when it's SISU. If they refuse to answer then make sure everybody knows they refuse to answer.
Same with the Council, we have the council leader gloating about public opinion after he clearly made something up. This gets mentioned and surprise surprise there are things that fire up to make it go away. Strange social media accounts pop up, stories are spun in the media and it's "what Duggins bullshit?". Like I said, there's the road traffic campaigner who gives them absolute hell and it doesn't involve standing about with a banner.
Both of them need to know that they can't sit comfortably and rely on "public opinion" and just say the word "SISU" and everything goes away when they bullshit.
SISU, it's pointless doing things at games or just trying to make people aware of the "plight" every couple of games. They don't give a shit about their reputation as a football club owner, they care about their reputation as Hedge Fund / Investment people. Who is it they want to impress and look good for? How do they attract "clients"?
It's about who needs to look good for who. Wasps and the Council need to look good for the Coventry public. SISU need to look good for investors, potential investors and people within their "circles", the Coventry public is irrelevant to them.
The thought that "pressure" instantly seems to mean standing somewhere with a banner chanting things just shows that people aren't willing to step back and think outside the box about things.
The result should be entirely focused on getting us a deal to play and exist next year surely? When people say "the aim is for some exposure to the plight" it's pointless.