The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (20 Viewers)

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
Captain Dart

Captain Dart

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DUP and ERG are out. The vote tonight will fall. I don't see what the end game here is.

Game of Chicken anyone?
 
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Captain Dart said:
DUP and ERG are out. The vote tonight will fall. I don't see what the end game here is.

Game of Chicken anyone?
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I know what they're after, but I find the ERG position slightly... odd. It's not the Brexit they're after, but it *is* Brexit and following the referendum result. They risk there being no Brexit, thanks to their actions.
 
Nick

Nick

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Is anybody going to be listening to Brexit on the radio while they are at the game tonight?

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lifeskyblue

lifeskyblue

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Nick said:
Is anybody going to be listening to Brexit on the radio while they are at the game tonight?

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The vote will be before the game I think. I will listen to that.
The fallout from the vote will be during and after the game...I won’t listen to that.
And then it all starts again tomorrow...but I doubt we will be any clearer.


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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Nick said:
Is anybody going to be listening to Brexit on the radio while they are at the game tonight?
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Massive cheers for a no
Massive cheers for a yes
 
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martcov

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skybluetony176 said:
It’s a good article. Surprisingly he talks a lot of sense. Especially regarding India.
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The truth is that the Aussies asked various people including universities what they thought of a possible Brexit deal. The answer was that you don’t base trade deals on the language you speak, and that the UK is a distressed trading partner and they should first deal with the EU and then the UK.

India said long ago they wanted more visas for their citizens and that they were not interested in Empire 2.0.

It is only the liar Farage and his mates that were saying „our friends speak English“ and were talking about building up trade with the commonwealth countries.

Brexit is built on sand and it is no surprise it is falling apart.

The USA will rip us apart when we start negotiating a trade deal with them.

At the moment the country is „us and them“ between leave and remain.

I sincerely hope that Brexit is scrapped and that the „us“ becomes the majority of the uk, leave and remain, against the liars and conmen who brought the country to the brink. The „them“ being Banks, Farage, Wigmore, Ashcroft, Tim Martin, Rees Mogg, Gove, David Davis, Liam Fox and the rest of their weird mates. They promised no downsides, sunny uplands and the easiest trade deals in history.

What have we got so far? Job losses, extra costs, loss of influence, a drain of billions of financial assets to EU countries, and tremendous uncertainty slowing business investment inside the UK. Where were these things in the leave campaign?
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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martcov said:
The truth is that the Aussies asked various people including universities what they thought of a possible Brexit deal. The answer was that you don’t base trade deals on the language you speak, and that the UK is a distressed trading partner and they should first deal with the EU and then the UK.

India said long ago they wanted more visas for their citizens and that they were not interested in Empire 2.0.

It is only the liar Farage and his mates that were saying „our friends speak English“ and were talking about building up trade with the commonwealth countries.

Brexit is built on sand and it is no surprise it is falling apart.

The USA will rip us apart when we start negotiating a trade deal with them.

At the moment the country is „us and them“ between leave and remain.

I sincerely hope that Brexit is scrapped and that the „us“ becomes the majority of the uk, leave and remain, against the liars and conmen who brought the country to the brink. The „them“ being Banks, Farage, Wigmore, Ashcroft, Tim Martin, Rees Mogg, Gove, David Davis, Liam Fox and the rest of their weird mates. They promised no downsides, sunny uplands and the easiest trade deals in history.

What have we got so far? Job losses, extra costs, loss of influence, a drain of billions of financial assets to EU countries, and tremendous uncertainty slowing business investment inside the UK. Where were these things in the leave campaign?
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The head of the Indian Chamber of Commerce for Europe has confirmed that India are excited by Brexit. Apparently it finally means that they’ll be able to do a trade deal with the EU as we will no longer be there to veto it. The leave talk about doing a deal with India when we leave the EU is a joke. The reason we used our veto? India wanted more Visas for their citizens as part of a trade deal with the EU. Nothing has changed from India’s point of view. I suspect ours will in desperation to get a deal any deal.
 
Captain Dart

Captain Dart

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Fiona Onsanya voting!
 
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Now Keir Starmer's performances haven't been at all bad. If Labour needed a leader...
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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Astute said:
Remember months ago when I said that although it didn't look at all that May would be able to push it through I could see a chance of it getting through at the last minute after she stalled until the last minute? Then some on here said why there was no chance of it going through. IIRC that was your thoughts also.

May has delayed as long as she can. Reality has hit home.

We are down to the 3 choices I said about months ago.

Agree to the May deal.

Turn down May deal and risk a no deal.

Turn down May deal but look for a way of still being tied to the EU. This is either temporary while a deal is sorted out or remaining in the EU.

I still can't see a chance of a no deal going through. 80% of MP's are against it. Because they are against breaking ties with the EU.

So what are we left with?

May deal? Still in the EU until at least the end of 2020. Nearly 2 years to come to agreements. Good chance not long enough.

No May deal? Have a feeling it would lead us into remaining in the EU. Whoever is leading the Tories going towards remaining. Who could go against it? Certainly not Corbyn. Although he wants out the Labour party got him to say he wants to remain.

It is now getting a bit interesting :shifty:
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To be fair you also said that the UK would be able to dictate terms due to buying wine and cheese ;)
The only outcome I can see now is an extension of article 50 and a general election....and probably another hung parliament
 
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Sick Boy said:
To be fair you also said that the UK would be able to dictate terms due to buying wine and cheese ;)
The only outcome I can see now is an extension of article 50 and a general election....and probably another hung parliament
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The European elections are going to be a total farce.
 
Captain Dart

Captain Dart

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Today the MPs voted against the only deal available.

Tommorrow the MPs are going to vote for no 'no deal'.

Thursday the EU are going to say no extension to article 50.

Friday ... May presents the deal no one wants once again and Labour presents another motion of no confidence.

Monday, probably rioting on the streets. I give up.
 
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Ian1779

Ian1779

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Captain Dart said:
Today the MPs voted against the obly deal available.

Tommorrow the MPs are going to vote for no 'no deal'.

Thursday the EU are going to say no extension to article 50.

Friday ... May presents the deal no one wants once again and Labour presents another motion of no confidence.

Monday, probably rioting on the streets. I give up.
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Maybe May should take her deal straight to the people... might have more of a chance of passing.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Ian1779 said:
Maybe May should take her deal straight to the people... might have more of a chance of passing.
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She lacks courage but she should in the form of a general election and even a majority of one for the conservatives would confirm this had to pass. All MPs would have to stand on the deal
 
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martcov

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Grendel said:
She lacks courage but she should in the form of a general election and even a majority of one for the conservatives would confirm this had to pass. All MPs would have to stand on the deal
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A majority of one for changing the direction of the country for the benefit of a gang of dodgy businessmen and politicians? No sane country does that. For something so game changing you need a qualified majority. If not you land in the situation that the UK has landed in. Split, weakened and rudderless. Brexit was a stupid decision and sooner or later you will have to admit it.
 
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