The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (45 Viewers)
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It's OK, we should expect the opposite of what experts say, because now and again they get predictions wrong. Far better to go on a random hunch then to listen to those who spend their lives studying such things.
What we should also do is pull out the odd rogue 'expert' who's in the minority, to prove that experts agree it'll be alright on the night.
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westcountry_skyblue
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Because I want sovereignty and to make our own decisions the world will not end on 30th March keep calm and carry on don’t listen to the doom mongers!!
shmmeee
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But even those that say it won’t be a disaster want us to create free trade deals. Literally the only people pushing no deal are traitors like Farage, Banks, JRM and the likes of Putin all of whom want to see the UK destroyed so they can benefit.
Where is the great popular uprising for no deal? Is it all so they don’t have to admit they just don’t like foreigners that much?
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Parliament have made the decision to reject no deal.
Sovereignty in action!
skybluetony176
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Just been in the local shop and laughing at all the headlines basically making out Bercow is a traitor and has stopped brexit single handedly by blocking a third vote on a deal that just last week they were declaring wasn’t brexit and was a betrayal. Nothing like whipping up a storm
shmmeee
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We have sovereignty! Our parliament is sovereign and always has been.
We had a trade deal, and they inevitably result in taking regulations on so that you can sell into a market.
With the EU we were heavy hitters on par with China and the US and had far more power than we should have thanks to having shit hot diplomats. Now we’re the weedy teenager in the pub picking on the local yardies. We’re gonna do what we’re told or get buttfucked. Yay “sovereignty”!
Our power is in diplomacy and historic links and our language. It’s not economic or military. To remove ourselves from the centre of the biggest trading block is insanity. It’s fighting on the global stage with one arm tied behind our back. It’s the end of Britain as a global power. You’ve not gamed the system, you’ve been had by a bunch of chancers who are pissing themselves at you as they shuffle their assets abroad.
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westcountry_skyblue
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My Money is on no deal get on now 7/2 !!!
Farage was a NF supporter at School. His teachers were worried about his far right and racist views and didn’t want him to be a prefect. Especially after him singing Hitler Youth songs whilst pissed on a school trip. He is still on TV and radio more than most elected MPs. The good thing is that his march may be the end of him and hopefully some of his supporters may start to wake up to the damage his populism has caused the UK.
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westcountry_skyblue
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What about Labour singing about the red flag?
What about it? Oh Tannenbaum Oh Tannenbaum... a German Christmas tune/ song
They always do that , but I think that is more symbolic than anything else.
Don’t remember Blair being particularly revolutionary..
Plus the NF were admirers of the Nazis. I heard John Tyndall speak in Coventry and noticed that he was throwing in direct quotes from Hitler into his speech. Martin Webster wanted all blonde bodyguard as as a sort of mini SS. Tyndall took part in Operation Spearhead in the early 60s and wore a Nazi style Uniform then.
One of their chants was „there ain’t no black in the Union Jack.“
The red flag song is relatively harmless in comparison.
They actually meant what they said and Farage was an admirer of them. They disgusted me. One reason why I cannot stand Farage.
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westcountry_skyblue
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I had a few hundred on us to vote LEAVE @ 11/2 on the night might make you a few quid?
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westcountry_skyblue
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I don't condone Right wing fascists but Stalin and Mao killed more!!!
Well you kind of are condoning 'right wing fascists' by placing them lower in the league table of pogroms, purges and genocides.
True, but it’s not communists that are the leading populists in the Brexit debate.
Captain Dart
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Today....
Mr Barnier also warned that UK MPs voting against "no deal" would not prevent it from happening, saying that "everyone should now finalise all preparations for a no-deal scenario".
Sick Boy
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Well he has a duty to say it,a lot of UK MPs seem to live in an alternate universe
SkyblueBazza
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Enter the French..."France ready to veto any meaningless Brexit delay: Elysee official" - France ready to veto any meaningless Brexit delay: Elysee official | Reuters
Not long to wait to see what happens next at least.
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SkyblueBazza
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Unless the EU choose not to extend...then funnily enpugh that sovereingty has failed
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SkyblueBazza
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Brighton Sky Blue
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skybluetony176
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Ahhh. I see the way it’s going with leavers. If we don’t leave without a deal at the end of the month it’s sovereignties fault. If we’re forced to leave without a deal at the end of the month it’s the EU’s fault. Leave take no responsibility for the vote.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Funnily enough we not only voted to leave we also set our own countdown. Bit odd to blame the bouncer for saying time's up
Brighton Sky Blue
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Thing is dude you probably call Corbyn a prick but he's at least trying to polish the big Brexit turd-mistakenly imo, but making some attempt.
Vote Tory get numbskulls
The EU doesn’t choose not to extend. The 2 years of internal squabbling about how we want to leave runs out. We can extend according to the EU. All we have to do is say why we want an extension, and the reason has to be a sensible one. Simples.
It is amazing that he has to explain the bloody obvious to our government.
Astute
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People's vote is the same as remoaners and similar.
We already had the people's vote. It was what put us into this predicament. Now it is an MP thing.
I still think that if the vote went ahead that it would be very close. And I have a feeling it would go the way of leave again. There is a lot of people not allowed to vote. But when asked in a poll they are allowed to say remain.
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We're always in control of whether we choose to leave the EU without a deal.
Astute
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If you put it that way and it is what you want the best way forward is a no deal. Because if we continue with close ties with the EU we won't be able to make trade deals with anyone else.
Sky Blue Pete
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We will have a close relationship with our biggest trading partner and therefore some sort of trade deal will be possible, and we may latch on to EU ROW trade deals,at least partly, through our regulatory alignment, or close regulatory alignment, to the EU. We are attempting to roll over a total of 40 trade deals on that basis.
Astute
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And if we do that the EU won't allow us to make trade deals with anyone else.
People’s Vote is the name of the campaign for a second Brexit referendum campaign. „Remoaners“ is an insult from leavers with weak or non existent arguments.
No comparison.
Nice that people like myself are allowed to say remain. Thanks.
I am not sure that your excuse for polls always showing a remain lead is because they ask people who are not allowed to vote is correct.
The Farage ramble and the desperate slurs on Bercow from the tabloids, who is actually doing his job, despite being a conservative, show the sheer desperation of leave. The lies from Esther McVey and co and refusal by leading leavers to join in a people’s vote to confirm their Brexit mess, shows that they don’t think people would confirm Brexit if asked to. Otherwise it would be a rush to „bring it on“, not „for God’s sake don’t let the people have a second chance now they have seen Brexit for what it is“.