Butts (2 Viewers)

[JulianDarbyFTW]

Having a step back, I don't think it originally came from the club. It is more likely from the other "side".

Imagine if it came from the council. Puts pressure on the club and SISU, because the expectation of staying in the city rears it's head again. It becomes doubly sickening when we end up being somewhere else, and SISU get extra blame for having another option to stay in the city and 'choosing' not to.

 

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[skybluegod]

Sky sports are saying we are still in negotiation with two EFL clubs over a groundshare, but also looking at the Butts.

Coventry City continue Birmingham groundshare talks

 

[hill83]

Apparently John Sharp has this morning said there is no truth in the rumour and he's no idea where its come from. (Taken from Simon Gilbert on Twitter)

 

[oldskyblue58]

I wonder if it ties in with any other news that is due?

 

[Nick]

Imagine if it came from the council. Puts pressure on the club and SISU, because the expectation of staying in the city rears it's head again. It becomes doubly sickening when we end up being somewhere else, and SISU get extra blame for having another option to stay in the city and 'choosing' not to.

Also a chance to rinse and repeat the "We wont work with SISU" line and ignoring the other things that have happened

 

[Nick]

I wonder if it ties in with any other news that is due?

Might be something going on as the bloke from the Trust is making new social media accounts after his others were banned.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I wonder if it ties in with any other news that is due?

What news is that? I suggested last week that it was interesting to see that the Butts wasn't explicitly ruled out of options for next season, as it is quite obviously an area where SISU would believe they can put the council under political pressure.

 

[clint van damme]

Would they be able to develop income streams that generate more income than say 50% (if its a true partnership) of 30 football matches per year with 10-15,000 fans.

Yes they don't need a 10-15k stadium, there's only a handful of rugby clubs in the country that do need that, Wasps are playing at a 1/3rd full stadium week in week out currently

A temporary deal if they can get the capacity I can't see

I might actually spend more time in Cov, bring some of that southern prosperity up to the midlands wasteland.

Bringing a 5 litre container of raw scrumpy to the game with you doesn't class as spreading prosperity.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

The club are also set to continue discussions with Coventry City Council on Tuesday about the potential use of Butts Park Arena, the home of Coventry Rugby Club.
The ground has a capacity of 4,000, which could be expanded to 7,500 if agreement is reached.

 

[Captain Dart]

Having a step back, I don't think it originally came from the club. It is more likely from the other "side".

Sure thats why Les Reid has "learned" of it.
The Coventry Observer | All the latest Coventry News, Sport and Lifestyle headlines

And Jon Sharpe knows nothing about it.

 

[Nick]

Sure thats why Les Reid has "learned" of it.
The Coventry Observer | All the latest Coventry News, Sport and Lifestyle headlines

And Jon Sharpe knows nothing about it.

After it was published by who?

Get back to Daventry with Cov United.

 

[oldskyblue58]

What news is that? I suggested last week that it was interesting to see that the Butts wasn't explicitly ruled out of options for next season, as it is quite obviously an area where SISU would believe they can put the council under political pressure.

I was thinking the Supreme Court judgement ...... if that goes against SISU then there are technically no legals going on .......... opportunity to talk perhaps? .......... pressure to stay at Ricoh ? .....

 

[vow]

Fuck the Wasps, Fuck Sisu, Fuck the Council, have a beer or two!

Fixed, prefer my version!!

 

[Captain Dart]

After it was published by who?

Get back to Daventry with Cov United.

To quote Reid article...

The Times reports this morning the Butts Park Arena (BPA) and St Andrew’s grounds are being proposed by Coventry City.

We have learned from confidential sources that both are still being considered alongside other options, while the Ricoh Arena remains the club’s preferred option.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

To quote Reid article...

The Times reports this morning the Butts Park Arena (BPA) and St Andrew’s grounds are being proposed by Coventry City.

We have learned from confidential sources that both are still being considered alongside other options, while the Ricoh Arena remains the club’s preferred option.

Do you not blame anybody but SISU?

 

[Nick]

To quote Reid article...

The Times reports this morning the Butts Park Arena (BPA) and St Andrew’s grounds are being proposed by Coventry City.

We have learned from confidential sources that both are still being considered alongside other options, while the Ricoh Arena remains the club’s preferred option.

So it was the Times who reported it this morning.

Remind me who did an article in the times a couple of days ago?

 

[cc84cov]

The club are also set to continue discussions with Coventry City Council on Tuesday about the potential use of Butts Park Arena, the home of Coventry Rugby Club.
The ground has a capacity of 4,000, which could be expanded to 7,500 if agreement is reached.

That’s that fucked then lol

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Do you not blame anybody but SISU?

Is he wrong, in this instance, that the most likely scenario is SISU using the Butts in some way to validate moving elsewhere?

Is it unlikely that it's being reported in order for SISU to report back to the football league that they tried local options but, ultimately, they were unworkable, so they therefore had to go further afield?

Is this an unlikely scenario, based on their previous actions?

 

[Ashdown]

Not one mention of how this would be good for the fans, the club, the local area or CRFC, should a deal to stay at the Ricoh not be a viable option, just a disgruntled opinion based on the Club's owners.

There is no mention anywhere that this could be SISU PR, however it has been stressed by the EFL that they require CCFC to remain within a small distance of Coventry itself - so on that basis you could surmise that this could happen, potentially!

Not disgruntled at all, just being realistic ! It was only 2 weeks ago everyone was googling how to get to Burton on Trent.

 

[Captain Dart]

Do you not blame anybody but SISU?

Pissed off the parties can't find a compromise and end this instability. If they continue on this path the club will end up exiled for years. How is that a good outcome.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I was thinking the Supreme Court judgement ...... if that goes against SISU then there are technically no legals going on .......... opportunity to talk perhaps? .......... pressure to stay at Ricoh ? .....

More likely validation of moves elsewhere, I'd say.

Something, just something, tells me that even if the current legal action finishes, nobody is stupid enough to think that will be the end of it!

 

[Ashdown]

I was just about to say where is Ashdown to piss on my chips.

Sorry but just can't see anything happening here. Way too much to achieve in too short a time.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Not disgruntled at all, just being realistic ! It was only 2 weeks ago everyone was googling how to get to Burton on Trent.

You'll have to forgive me, but it doesn't read that way to me!

The issue we (as fans) have at the moment is there is no communication from anyone at the Club as to where the Club is looking for a temporary solution, while that remains the case the fans are going to attach themselves to what they hear/see, only natural.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Sorry but just can't see anything happening here. Way too much to achieve in too short a time.

This, tbh, is key. I always thought the Butts would be our Withdean, but we'd need somewhere to start the season off, at the very least!

 

[chiefdave]

Sure thats why Les Reid has "learned" of it.
The Coventry Observer | All the latest Coventry News, Sport and Lifestyle headlines

And Jon Sharpe knows nothing about it.

CWR journalist and Wasps season ticket holder- sounds about right.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Brum fans seem fairly happy with us playing at st andrews, i guess the only thing is the pitch would be at a decent standard

 

[Deleted member 5849]

i guess the only thing is the pitch would be at a decent standard

Why would it be?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Sure thats why Les Reid has "learned" of it.
The Coventry Observer | All the latest Coventry News, Sport and Lifestyle headlines

And Jon Sharpe knows nothing about it.

The journalist who asked him is a Wasps STH

 

[quinn1971]

Isn’t this sisu just waiting to see what the result of the appeal is, if it’s turned down again we’ll be back at the Ricoh if it’s upheld, or sisu take it any further ( if they can ?) then wasps still won’t let us play at the Ricoh,

 

[scottccfc]

Don't think they are allowed to do this are they? I believe you have to allow some to get to general sale, but may be wrong.

I thought this too, that's why you can always "try" to get tickets to man utd etc

 

[Ashdown]

You'll have to forgive me, but it doesn't read that way to me!

The issue we (as fans) have at the moment is there is no communication from anyone at the Club as to where the Club is looking for a temporary solution, while that remains the case the fans are going to attach themselves to what they hear/see, only natural.

Absolutely, the Butts makes sense on many levels of course and as I attend the Cov Rugby games too would like the area myself but alas there is a lot of clutching at straws here surely and of course the blame game.

 

[ccfcricoh]

I'll be renewing my season ticket if we're at the Ricoh or Butts but nowhere else.

Think this is just SISU rumours though, put out there to show Wasps we might not need them as much as they think, to get a better deal to stay going forward, as i genuinely believe they want us to stay as well...

let's all be honest though, none of us have a clue what is going on or what is currently most likely!

 

[Skybluefaz]

Anyone else think that a move to the butts would increase ticket demand?

 

[cc84cov]

Well...Sisu have just lost their latest appeal then,what next........

 

[better days]

I can't believe this is anything but a made up load of nonsense for click bait as usual from a hedge fund inspired PR outfit. I'm pretty sure that Mr Sharp said firstly that CRFC don't want to deal with SISU and who would blame him for that. Secondly CCFC would have to invest heavily to upgrade the stadium to accommodate football fans and that would mean also clearing all the stuff already in situ and sorting out separate access for away fans. They're not going to get all that for £100k that's for sure !
Cov rugby will have doubled their turnover I'm guessing to around £1.2 million this year so although extra revenue is always going to be welcome, someone would have to pay for the changes to be made within 4 months to make it beneficial.
Personally I think this is more SISU bullshit and another chance to point the finger elsewhere. I just hope people don't start to drag CRFC into their blame game.

I think there might be a bit more to this
The Times ran a sympathetic article at the weekend where all parties apart from the club and fans were condemned including SISU and the council
As this news has also broken in The Times today it's more likely to have come from a source within, or close to the club