The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (15 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

What percentage of seats do they occupy?

I thought you said that you had looked at the data?

Currently from yesterday’s elections:

UKIP has 31 councillors, a loss of 144, no overall control of councils.

Green has 255, a gain of 185, no overall control of councils.

Lib Dem’s has 1296 councillors, a gain of 664, control of 18 councils a gain of 10.

 

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[Grendel]

I thought you said that you had looked at the data?

Currently from yesterday’s elections:

UKIP has 31 councillors, a loss of 144, no overall control of councils.

Green has 255, a gain of 185, no overall control of councils.

Lib Dem’s has 1296 councillors, a gain of 664, control of 18 councils a gain of 10.

Er which parties have in the manifesto honoured the referendum result?

 

[skybluetony176]

Er which parties have in the manifesto honoured the referendum result?

Oh. You mean the two parties who are as split as the rest of the country, can’t get a consensus through parliament, have had numerous MP’s leave to form a new remain party and have largely been branded as traitors to brexit on many forums such as question time every week for at least a year if not longer and most notably in writing on spoiled ballot papers last night. You’re clutching at straws if you’re trying to claim that either is a remain party. They’re split.

 

[Grendel]

Oh. You mean the two parties who are as split as the rest of the country, can’t get a consensus through parliament, have had numerous MP’s leave to form a new remain party and have largely been branded as traitors to brexit on many forums such as question time every week for at least a year if not longer and most notably in writing on spoiled ballot papers last night. You’re clutching at straws if you’re trying to claim that either is a remain party. They’re split.

So in the euro elections the Lib Dem’s will humiliate farage? Will this happen Tony?

 

[skybluetony176]

So in the euro elections the Lib Dem’s will humiliate farage? Will this happen Tony?

I don’t have a clue. Lib Dem’s don’t have my vote for starters. We’ll see what happens if we can’t get a deal through Parliament and have to go to the polls to vote for MEP’s. Your poster boy will no doubt win some though.

 

[Grendel]

I don’t have a clue. Lib Dem’s don’t have my vote for starters. We’ll see what happens if we can’t get a deal through Parliament and have to go to the polls to vote for MEP’s. Your poster boy will no doubt win some though.

Will your principal apply though?

 

[Tommo1993]

Ugh. Principle.

 

[skybluetony176]

Will your principal apply though?

Not sure what you think “my principle” is. Probably isn’t what you think it is though.

 

[Grendel]

Not sure what you think “my principal” is. Probably isn’t what you think it is though.

Ha ha again classic Tony

 

[skybluetony176]

Ha ha again classic Tony

You’re not going to tell me what you think I’m thinking then?

 

[dutchman]

They aren’t trying anymore.

They say different...

Turkey condemns European parliament committee call to suspend accession - Reuters

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey criticized on Thursday as “unacceptable” a vote by the European Parliament Foreign Affairs Committee calling for the suspension of EU accession negotiations with it.

“It is absolutely unacceptable that the non-binding, advisory draft report is calling for a total suspension of our accession talks to the EU,” Turkish Foreign Ministry spokesman Hami Aksoy said in a statement.

“We expect the necessary corrections to be made and the final report to be more realistic, impartial and encouraging. Only such a report will be taken into consideration by our country.”

Turkey says EU membership remains one of its top strategic goals even though the accession talks, formally launched in 2004, have been stalled for years. Some EU leaders and officials have called for them to be ended.

 

[martcov]

Democracy will speak


How do you think they’ll do in the European elections? If Farage storms it will you admit remain lies have been exposed, Britain wants Brexit and will you shake Nigel’s hand?

No. I will add up the pro Remain parties‘ vote % and see if that trumps your leader‘s %. Don’t forget the remainers who will still vote Labour or Tory because of the rest of the manifestos. Your leader hasn’t told you what his manifesto is yet. There won’t be much discussion in the party as the supreme leader chooses the board that runs the party and can sack anyone who has other ideas than his own ones. Democracy doesn’t have much say in the Brexit Party. Das Führerprinzip is the BP System.

Is he still going on about GATT 24 and the treaty of Vienna? Last I heard your leader was having a dig at the descendants of commonwealth immigrants in Oldham not being able to speak English.

 

[martcov]

They say different...

Turkey condemns European parliament committee call to suspend accession - Reuters

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey criticized on Thursday as “unacceptable” a vote by the European Parliament Foreign Affairs Committee calling for the suspension of EU accession negotiations with it.

“It is absolutely unacceptable that the non-binding, advisory draft report is calling for a total suspension of our accession talks to the EU,” Turkish Foreign Ministry spokesman Hami Aksoy said in a statement.

“We expect the necessary corrections to be made and the final report to be more realistic, impartial and encouraging. Only such a report will be taken into consideration by our country.”

Turkey says EU membership remains one of its top strategic goals even though the accession talks, formally launched in 2004, have been stalled for years. Some EU leaders and officials have called for them to be ended.

You missed the last bit of the article which says they have no chance:

“This, in combination with the constitutional changes has made Turkey’s accession to the European Union impossible at this stage. The message of the Parliament today is crystal clear. We attach consequences to Erdogan’s authoritarian grip on power.”

Glad to have helped.

 

[dutchman]

Last I heard your leader was having a dig at the descendants of commonwealth immigrants in Oldham not being able to speak English.

Any reason why he shouldn't?

 

[martcov]

Ha ha again classic Tony

You were the one who kept having a go at him for voting UKIP as a tactical vote when Farage was the leader. Now your stroking Farage‘s arse in the hope of getting somewhere.. What happened to your principles?

 

[dutchman]

You missed the last bit of the article which says they have no chance:

“This, in combination with the constitutional changes has made Turkey’s accession to the European Union impossible at this stage. The message of the Parliament today is crystal clear. We attach consequences to Erdogan’s authoritarian grip on power.”

Glad to have helped.

Erdogan won't be president forever.

 

[Grendel]

No. I will add up the pro Remain parties‘ vote % and see if that trumps your leader‘s %. Don’t forget the remainers who will still vote Labour or Tory because of the rest of the manifestos. Your leader hasn’t told you what his manifesto is yet. There won’t be much discussion in the party as the supreme leader chooses the board that runs the party and can sack anyone who has other ideas than his own ones. Democracy doesn’t have much say in the Brexit Party. Das Führerprinzip is the BP System.

Is he still going on about GATT 24 and the treaty of Vienna? Last I heard your leader was having a dig at the descendants of commonwealth immigrants in Oldham not being able to speak English.

So in your mind all the labour voters and tories are remainers

Ok Adolf

Oh and I assume some Lib Dem’s are leavers then due to their other policies

Snigger

 

[martcov]

Any reason why he shouldn't?

Yes. His party is called the Brexit Party. Theoretically he should be campaigning about Brexit. Just makes you wonder what the rest of his manifesto contains. If you look at an old NF ( National Front ) leaflet from the 70s, you will probably not be far off. Same tactics. Digs at foreigners. Sow division to get power.

 

[martcov]

So in your mind all the labour voters and tories are remainers

Ok Adolf

You should join comprehension classes with Astute. Come back after a few lessons and we can have another go.

 

[skybluetony176]

You were the one who kept having a go at him for voting UKIP as a tactical vote when Farage was the leader. Now your stroking Farage‘s arse in the hope of getting somewhere.. What happened to your principles?

Funny isn’t it. I always told him his politics was closer to Ferages than mine and he used to take it as an insult and get angry. Faux anger as it turned out. Ferage is the man, apparently.

 

[Grendel]

You should join comprehension classes with Astute. Come back after a few lessons and we can have another go.

Seriously you are a leavers gift it’s brilliant

 

[martcov]

Erdogan won't be president forever.

Then it’s back to the beginning again and after years of measures to comply with EU rules, there has to be a unanimous decision on the part of the EU to accept Turkey.

 

[martcov]

Seriously you are a leavers gift it’s brilliant

By recommending comprehension classes for leavers? Well, yes, happy to be of assistance.

 

[Grendel]

Funny isn’t it. I always told him his politics was closer to Ferages than mine and he used to take it as an insult and get angry. Faux anger as it turned out. Ferage is the man, apparently.

I’ve already said I’d rather the Monster Raving Loonies are my preference but Nigel will do. Difference is I hate the EU

You’d have to be the thickest twat on the planet to be pro Eu and vote for an anti EU party

Oh....sorry mate

 

[skybluetony176]

Erdogan won't be president forever.

As of 2017 he will be. Unless there’s a military coup or he dies. He gained new powers and status in 2017 and basically can’t be replaced by any other method.

 

[skybluetony176]

I’ve already said I’d rather the Monster Raving Loonies are my preference but Nigel will do. Difference is I hate the EU

You’d have to be the thickest twat on the planet to be pro Eu and vote for an anti EU party

Oh....sorry mate

You’re too thick to understand why I used it as a protest vote ahead of Cameron’s negotiations with the EU.

Hasn’t someone already pointed out that you actually do have the option of voting for the monster raving loonies and supplied you a link?

Your vale has slipped. Despite your protestations you clearly are and always have been a Feragist. You’ve even confirmed it by acknowledging you hate the EU.

 

[martcov]

I’ve already said I’d rather the Monster Raving Loonies are my preference but Nigel will do. Difference is I hate the EU

You’d have to be the thickest twat on the planet to be pro Eu and vote for an anti EU party

Oh....sorry mate

So you class yourself more as a monster raving looney rather than a rabid Faragist? Yes, well it is a hard decision for you I suppose. I think you are a bit of both to be honest.

 

[dutchman]

As of 2017 he will be. Unless there’s a military coup or he dies.

Either of which is extremely likely in the near future.

 

[skybluetony176]

Either of which is extremely likely in the near future.

One has already been tried and failed.

 

[dutchman]

Yes. His party is called the Brexit Party. Theoretically he should be campaigning about Brexit. Just makes you wonder what the rest of his manifesto contains. If you look at an old NF ( National Front ) leaflet from the 70s, you will probably not be far off. Same tactics. Digs at foreigners. Sow division to get power.

But it's perfectly okay for Remain campaigner Tony Blair to raise the exact same concerns about non-integration?

 

[martcov]

But it's perfectly okay for Remain campaigner Tony Blair to raise the exact same concerns about non-integration?

Farage is not raising concerns about non integration, he is sowing division. Blair wasn’t a racist trying to wind people up about immigration to get votes.

 

[dutchman]

Then it’s back to the beginning again and after years of measures to comply with EU rules, there has to be a unanimous decision on the part of the EU to accept Turkey.

I seem to remember the rules being bent so that former dictatorships, Greece, Spain and Portugal could join as soon as possible.

 

[skybluetony176]

Yes. His party is called the Brexit Party. Theoretically he should be campaigning about Brexit. Just makes you wonder what the rest of his manifesto contains. If you look at an old NF ( National Front ) leaflet from the 70s, you will probably not be far off. Same tactics. Digs at foreigners. Sow division to get power.

Jesus. I assumed you were on about Tommy Robinson. Ferage. He’s the man. Apparently.

 

[martcov]

I seem to remember the rules being bent so that former dictatorships, Greece, Spain and Portugal could join as soon as possible.

When did Franco die or Greece become a democracy? 1975 and 1973. They joined 1986 and 1981. not instantaneous. Turkey would be more difficult because of the reversion to more religion as opposed to the secular reforms brought in by Attaturk, and the problems of Northern Cyprus and the Kurdish region. Plenty of problems to settle there.

 

[martcov]

Jesus. I assumed you were on about Tommy Robinson. Ferage. He’s the man. Apparently.

Well he certainly got Grendel‘s vote. There are plenty of Grendels around, unfortunately, so he should beat Labour who have now sacrificed the hard core remain vote.