The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (23 Viewers)

[Grendel]

You’re too thick to understand why I used it as a protest vote ahead of Cameron’s negotiations with the EU.

Hasn’t someone already pointed out that you actually do have the option of voting for the monster raving loonies and supplied you a link?

Your vale has slipped. Despite your protestations you clearly are and always have been a Feragist. You’ve even confirmed it by acknowledging you hate the EU.

So you’d have voted for the BNP then as a protest?

Anyway UKIP are not a racist party are they Tony?

 

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[Grendel]

Jesus. I assumed you were on about Tommy Robinson. Ferage. He’s the man. Apparently.

Would you have voted for Tommy if he was the UKIP candidate in your area as a “protest” Tony?

 

[martcov]

So you’d have voted for the BNP then as a protest?

Anyway UKIP are not a racist party are they Tony?

Do you know whether your Brexit Party is a racist party yet? Maybe it is as Farage has started on about brown people who don’t integrate. Still, no doubt your leader will disclose what is in his manifesto once he has got the votes in from the EU elections.

 

[skybluetony176]

Would you have voted for Tommy if he was the UKIP candidate in your area as a “protest” Tony?

Of course not. I wouldn’t have voted UKIP if Nigel Ferage had have stood in my area either. Unlike you I don’t think he’s the man. Like I always said, your politics are more inline with his and Tommy’s for that matter than mine will ever be. I actually give you some credit for finally admitting it.

 

[skybluetony176]

So you’d have voted for the BNP then as a protest?

Anyway UKIP are not a racist party are they Tony?

No I wouldn’t have.

 

[SIR ERNIE]

What an embarrassing response from the Remain crowd......voting for the pointless Lib Dems as a protest. Pathetic short termist drivel. Just get over it, you lost !!

I think it's great to hear Remainers delight at the Liberal Undemocrats 'success'.
No longer can they say that they don't have a true Remain party to vote for, after all the LU's clearly stated mission is to stop Brexit.
Old Vince, soppy Tim Farron & co are your perfect political home.

 

[skybluetony176]

Do you know whether your Brexit Party is a racist party yet? Maybe it is as Farage has started on about brown people who don’t integrate. Still, no doubt your leader will disclose what is in his manifesto once he has got the votes in from the EU elections.

Are you suggesting that people who insisted that they knew what they voted for in the referendum are now going to vote not knowing what they’re voting for? What moron would fall for that trick twice...



... oh look, here comes Grendull declaring that Ferage is the man.

 

[martcov]

I think it's great to hear Remainers delight at the Liberal Undemocrats 'success'.
No longer can they say that they don't have a true Remain party to vote for, after all the LU's clearly stated mission is to stop Brexit.
Old Vince, soppy Tim Farron & co are your perfect political home.

Well, as opposed to the ultra leave and hard leave parties, they did have a fantastic day at the polls. A “success“ as you describe it. UKIP, a Party that one can hardly describe as „soppy“, got absolutely hammered, which shows that the public are not into the „common sense“ policies of UKIP and their thug advisor. The remain vote will be shared between several remain parties at the EU elections. The largest party at the EU elections will be the most undemocratic party in the UK, judged on it’s constitution, and the fact that it won’t disclose it’s manifesto until after it’s got your vote, which is, of course, a leave party. Brexit Party. Leave parties = no manifesto and no democracy, or thug life. You are spoilt for choice.

 

[Grendel]

Well, as opposed to the ultra leave and hard leave parties, they did have a fantastic day at the polls. A “success“ as you describe it. UKIP, a Party that one can hardly describe as „soppy“, got absolutely hammered, which shows that the public are not into the „common sense“ policies of UKIP and their thug advisor. The remain vote will be shared between several remain parties at the EU elections. The largest party at the EU elections will be the most undemocratic party in the UK, judged on it’s constitution, and the fact that it won’t disclose it’s manifesto until after it’s got your vote, which is, of course, a leave party. Brexit Party. Leave parties = no manifesto and no democracy, or thug life. You are spoilt for choice.

Then the lib debd will storm the elections won’t they and will be the largest party going to Brussels

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Hey mart, do you still consider the launch of the Brexit Party as great news on the basis that it would split the leave vote?

lol

 

[Grendel]

Hey mart, do you still consider the launch of the Brexit Party as great news on the basis that it would split the leave vote?

lol

Ha ha ha - Farage will go full throttle. He should offer no morals cable a seat on the top table to join him - cable will sleep with anyone for a few extra quid

Five takeaways from the local election results and why they bode well for Farage's Brexit party

 

[SIR ERNIE]

You are spoilt for choice.

You're not, stop whining and just vote LibUndem.

 

[skybluetony176]

Hey mart, do you still consider the launch of the Brexit Party as great news on the basis that it would split the leave vote?

lol

Well according to Grendull the Tories and Labour are leave parties and that is who they are going to take votes off so Grendull seems to agree with Mart on this one.

 

[Grendel]

You're not, stop whining and just vote LibUndem.

Nah mart says the council elections prove we don’t want brexit as the Lib Dem’s bear UKIP - sound logic that

 

[tisza]

I think it's great to hear Remainers delight at the Liberal Undemocrats 'success'.
No longer can they say that they don't have a true Remain party to vote for, after all the LU's clearly stated mission is to stop Brexit.
Old Vince, soppy Tim Farron & co are your perfect political home.

Lib Dems just delusional. Independents were the main beneficiary of the protest vote.
These local elections are not a reliable barometer for long-term politics. Turnout usually poor. Labour dodged a bullet by no Scottish council elections - that would have been a bloodbath for SNP.
Lib Dems are barely polling 10% in the EU election polls.
By the time next GE comes round UK will be out of EU in some form or other and the Remain issue will be sidelined. What could become an issue is after a couple of years people aren't satisfied that May/Corbyn "solution" is working then we could end up revisiting the whole saga again.

 

[Grendel]

Well according to Grendull the Tories and Labour are leave parties and that is who they are going to take votes off so Grendull seems to agree with Mart on this one.

Oh dear Tony dear - no what I said and I thought even a dumbo like you would grasp it - is their Manifesto was to leave and if this is a brexit protest vote it failed badly as most votes went to parties honouring the referendum

Dumb and dumber at it again

 

[skybluetony176]

You're not, stop whining and just vote LibUndem.

You do know that the Lib Undems as you call them want a democratic vote on what leave actually means don’t you?

 

[Grendel]

Just to put Tony’s political nouse into context

Imposter on GMK

 

[Grendel]

You do know that the Lib Undems as you call them want a democratic vote on what leave actually means don’t you?

Then they’ll storm the Eu elections

 

[skybluetony176]

Oh dear Tony dear - no what I said and I thought even a dumbo like you would grasp it - is their Manifesto was to leave and if this is a brexit protest vote it failed badly as most votes went to parties honouring the referendum

Dumb and dumber at it again

That’s what you said when you started backtracking, It’s not what you initially said.

So you think May’s deal is honouring the referendum? That’s what you’ve just said (in bold and underlined above). Is May the man then?

You think that Labour’s policy of a customs union is honouring the referendum? That’s what you’ve just said (again, in bold and underlined above). Is Corbyn the man the then?

You clearly don’t think that they are honouring the referendum despite saying that they are because you’ve declared your love for Ferage and an unknown manifesto yet you want us to believe that the two main parties are committed to delivering the referendum. If you believe that why are you voting Ferage?

 

[Grendel]

That’s what you said when you started backtracking, It’s not what you initially said.

So you think May’s deal is honouring the referendum? That’s what you’ve just said (in bold and underlined above). Is May the man then?

You think that Labour’s policy of a customs union is honouring the referendum? That’s what you’ve just said (again, in bold and underlined above). Is Corbyn the man the then?

You clearly don’t think that they are honouring the referendum despite saying that they are because you’ve declared your love for Ferage and an unknown manifesto yet you want us to believe that the two main parties are committed to delivering the referendum. If you believe that why are you voting Ferage?

Yeah it’s exactly what a said Mr Political expert - oh let’s play it again

Imposter on GMK

 

[skybluetony176]

Just to put Tony’s political nouse into context

Imposter on GMK

Oh dear. You’ll be blocking me again next as you always do after you’ve posted that link when you can’t debate the actual point.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Then they’ll storm the Eu elections

Brexit will take 30% of the vote if they stand everywhere I reckon

Tory and labour - 25%

Lib Dem’s 10%

Green 5%

UKIP 5%

More or less

 

[skybluetony176]

Then they’ll storm the Eu elections

Already said that they don’t have my vote so I wouldn’t know. But labelling them undemocratic when the very essence of democracy is at the front of their manifesto is kind of ironic don’t you think.

 

[skybluetony176]

Yeah it’s exactly what a said Mr Political expert - oh let’s play it again

Imposter on GMK

It is exactly what you said. I even underlined it for you.

Looks like you played the Imposter on GMK card prematurely (story of your life I’m sure) and have had to play it again.

 

[martcov]

Then the lib debd will storm the elections won’t they and will be the largest party going to Brussels

I just said they won’t as the vote will be split. You should take in adult reading classes as well as comprehension classes. Your Führerprinzip party will be the winner as Labour is a fudge party. Together, the remain parties will get around the same percentage as the Farage Party.

 

[Grendel]

Already said that they don’t have my vote so I wouldn’t know. But labelling them undemocratic when the very essence of democracy is at the front of their manifesto is kind of ironic don’t you think.

They are the biggest liars in politics

 

[Grendel]

I just said they won’t as the vote will be split. You should take in adult reading classes as well as comprehension classes. Your Führerprinzip party will be the winner as Labour is a fudge party. Together, the remain parties will get around the same percentage as the Farage Party.

I understand comprehension when it makes sense and isn’t from a rabid mad bigot like you.

So the parties who have leave in their manifesto and to honour the result will score the same as the Lib Dem’s the greens and that other hapless bunch of losers with Heidi and chukka - is they what you are saying?

 

[skybluetony176]

Just to put Tony’s political nouse into context

Imposter on GMK

I wonder who said this “They are racist and so erm you voting for them makes you erm racist“. I wonder if that cap still fits or is all of a sudden a party led by Nigel “he’s the man” Ferage not a racist party anymore? I don’t know, let’s consult his manifesto. Oh wait...


... I guess you’re going to vote in the hope that he’s turned over a new leaf and no longer fronts a racist party. If only he’d make some sort of comment about integration so we can get a feel for it. I’m sure if he did he’d never make a claim like people who have lived in the U.K. for 30 years still can’t speak a word of English or something equally stereotyping. Oh wait...

 

[martcov]

Hey mart, do you still consider the launch of the Brexit Party as great news on the basis that it would split the leave vote?

lol

It will. But not enough. Tommy Robinson‘s martial campaigning is bringing even more UKIP over to Brexit, which means the split will almost irrelevant as the leavers rally around the flag of the leader and his Führerprinzip style party. Without knowing what they are voting for until after the EU elections. Same as with the referendum. I would have thought that the more sensible leavers would have learnt from that. Apparently there aren’t that many sensible ones and he will be handed Carte Blanche.

 

[SIR ERNIE]

You do know that the Lib Undems as you call them want a democratic vote on what leave actually means don’t you?

Do you mean these LibUndems Tony?

 

[martcov]

You're not, stop whining and just vote LibUndem.

I have already sent my postal vote in. FDP. Liberals.

 

[skybluetony176]

Brexit will take 30% of the vote if they stand everywhere I reckon

Tory and labour - 25%

Lib Dem’s 10%

Green 5%

UKIP 5%

More or less

I don’t think you’ll be far off with that Pete. Although I can see UKIP being decimated.

 

[martcov]

Nah mart says the council elections prove we don’t want brexit as the Lib Dem’s bear UKIP - sound logic that

I didn’t say that.

 

[Grendel]

It will. But not enough. Tommy Robinson‘s martial campaigning is bringing even more UKIP over to Brexit, which means the split will almost irrelevant as the leavers rally around the flag of the leader and his Führerprinzip style party. Without knowing what they are voting for until after the EU elections. Same as with the referendum. I would have thought that the more sensible leavers would have learnt from that. Apparently there aren’t that many sensible ones and he will be handed Carte Blanche.

What’s Robinson got to ukip