Johhny Blue
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We could try 5-0-5
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shmmeee
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I’m not sure how ACL going bust would help. We’d be back to square one.
There seems to be this fantasy that if the current occupiers go bust then we’ll (and by we I mean Sisu, CCFC won’t own anything) just get given it. I’m not sure where that comes from.
Grendel
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The council would get it back on a sub 45 year lease - I don’t think they’ll find another franchise and I’m sure even you might be slightly irked if they bulldozed it for yet another hotel no one wants
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
Or wasps go into administration, create a new company buy the bits back it needs and start again by taking on a new lease at the ricoh from the council............... some sort of deal done for pennies in the £ for the bondholders to release their charge..... where have i seen a plan like that before ????
I would be surprised if wasps hadn't done some insolvency planning or at least taken some advice on it
As for letting ACL go bust you could argue the best thing would have been to let CCFC go bust back in 2007 and start again........... It was the bank as the major creditor that had the final say on that particular insolvency decision making ........ The club and CCC work together to rebuild rather than but heads for years
I would be surprised if wasps hadn't done some insolvency planning or at least taken some advice on it
As for letting ACL go bust you could argue the best thing would have been to let CCFC go bust back in 2007 and start again........... It was the bank as the major creditor that had the final say on that particular insolvency decision making ........ The club and CCC work together to rebuild rather than but heads for years
skyblueinBaku
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There's a bloke that would be good for that administration scenario......
He's done that kind of thing before.
He's done that kind of thing before.
Grendel
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Or wasps go into administration, create a new company buy the bits back it needs and start again by taking on a new lease at the ricoh from the council............... some sort of deal done for pennies in the £ for the bondholders to release their charge..... where have i seen a plan like that before ????
I would be surprised if wasps hadn't done some insolvency planning or at least taken some advice on it
As for letting ACL go bust you could argue the best thing would have been to let CCFC go bust back in 2007 and start again........... It was the bank as the major creditor that had the final say on that particular insolvency decision making ........ The club and CCC work together to rebuild rather than but heads for years
Or ccfc made ACL go bust in 2007
robbiethemole
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can we stay at St A until the old place has had a lick of paint and a good tidy up, feckin shithole, we don't need to be paying for the maintenance of the place
fernandopartridge
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Or both and a new company formed that purchases assets of each
shmmeee
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Apart from anything else. Any new deal has to include clauses on pitch condition.
fernandopartridge
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I think the club would be better paying for the pitch to be laid and the upkeep and charging it back to Wasps. Didn't they pay for the pitch at Northampton?
Sky Blue Pete
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Well we’ll cease to exist without a viable plan
chiefdave
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Thought Italia was back for a minute, that was one of his favourite assertions. Although he never could explain why having their own ground is unaffordable for CCFC yet doesn't seem to present an issue for so many other clubs.
shmmeee
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How many other clubs play at the Ricoh?
I said I’m not sure the Ricoh is viable on our current crowds on our own.
My position from day one has been: if we can’t afford what the council are asking (and that’s what CCFCs line has been so take it up with them) we should build our own ground. The Ricoh is made for a team getting 15k+ crowds regularly at least. If we went up I could see a route to us paying for it ourselves, but if ifs and buts were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas.
As always you’re arguing with a person and argument you’ve made up in your head.
Grendel
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The difference between 10,000 a year and 15,000 in ebit is maximum £1 million a year - how on earth is that suddenly making unsustainable sustainable? Even by your standards that’s beyond logical
ccfcway
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Can’t quite believe what I’m reading on some of this thread
In my opinion, anyone happy to continue to play at St Andrews (or anywhere outside of Coventry) whilst not being confident of seeing ground being broken or a robust plan to return needs to be careful what they wish for.
I can’t see a way back at the moment and that’s a concern.
Continued Radio silence from all parties (including the owners who have most to lose).
We are Coventry City and despite not living in the city and not caring from a travel point of view, my priority as a minimum is we play in our city !
In my opinion, anyone happy to continue to play at St Andrews (or anywhere outside of Coventry) whilst not being confident of seeing ground being broken or a robust plan to return needs to be careful what they wish for.
I can’t see a way back at the moment and that’s a concern.
Continued Radio silence from all parties (including the owners who have most to lose).
We are Coventry City and despite not living in the city and not caring from a travel point of view, my priority as a minimum is we play in our city !
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JulianDarbyFTW
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I'm almost positive that when we first moved to the Ricoh it was said that the 'break even' crowd required was 20k .
ccfcway
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Wasn’t that with the previous rental agreement and championship wage bill ?
ccfcway
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Purely for fun (fully appreciate it will
Never be these two choices) which would you rather ?
1) return to the Ricoh as tenants
2) become Warwickshire sky blues and rent commonwealth stadium and access to revenues enabling the club to spend more on the field
curious to see how much the Ricoh has been written off by people.
ccfc1234
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With respect the seats are still branded CCFC. There is the memorial garden and many fans own a brick in the fabric of the building. If franchise rugby club change those things (mainly the seats) I would agree it's done. Until then there is hope.
JimmyHillsbeard
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Hasn’t our form dipped at the Ricoh in each season once they started playing Rugby on it? I’ll try and dig out some stats when the Sultan of Brunei grants me proper internet access in his guest palace if that’s ok w Hill83 ;-)
fernandopartridge
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Certainly true in the first two seasons.
First season:
Before P9 W3 D3 L3
After P12 W2 D5 L5
Second:
Before: P6 W4 D2 L0
After: P17 W8 D4 L5
Skybluefaz
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i think it was 23000, that was our maximum gate for the first few months, can’t remember why[/QUOTE]
Yes I think 23k was definitely the figure
Frank Sidebottom
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i think it was 23000, that was our maximum gate for the first few months, can’t remember why[/QUOTE]
Attendance for the 1st 2 or 3 games was capped at 23k.... something to do with the safety certificate I think, I remember due to delays having to play our 1st 3 games away. I think my first Ricoh game wasn't until a dismal 2-0 loss against Hull at the end of September.
pipkin73
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Will they be laying it with pot holes so it seems like the normal pitch
CanadianCCFC
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They don’t play till October.
CanadianCCFC
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If that’s sand, then if we ever return there we can just ask to play on that, sign some Brazilian players and they can lead us to glory playing barefoot.
pipkin73
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But surely better to start the work as soon as the monster trucks were gone, to give the pitch as much summer sun as possible to enable healthy growth.
CanadianCCFC
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It’s wasps at the Ricoh, what did u expect.
pipkin73
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I don't expect anything, just replying to Canadian saying they don't play there till October. So what, start the pitch as early as possible so it's in the best possible condition for the season ahead. Shows that WXXXS don't give a dam about the pitch. Anything is ok for egg chasing if it saves a couple of pounds.
CanadianCCFC
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Yeah I know sorry I was just unsure if people were aware that the rugby season starts later this year because of the RWC, I wasn’t defending the c***s.