The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (39 Viewers)

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
Grendel

Grendel

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Sick Boy said:
Hung parliament?
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I have no idea how it will end up - no idea. A Tory majority is possible but marginal - there is no chance of a labour majority but a chance of a labour SNP majority

In the end though this will never be resolved until there is a labour or Tory majority
 
Grendel

Grendel

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skybluetony176 said:
So you’re either agreeing that an election is pointless or you think a party that predicted to win no seats is going to win seats and enter a coalition or arrangement with the Tories.
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No
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Grappa

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Quick, quick, the posh people are saying they'll look after us. I'm all over this fucker, fucking peasants getting themselves disabled and stuff, taking the piss now. You can disagree all you like but you're wrong, the posh people told me. Strong and fucking stable, mate. They're rich for a reason mate, they know what they're on about.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Grendel said:
Why? Let’s be honest you are the Chuka if this forum
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I'm quite happy to be a 'Chuka' voter. I've voted Tory, Labour, LD, Green and Ind in various elections over the years. I look at the policies and manifestos and vote according to who's I believe in the most. As someone who says they have independent thought I'd assume you'd do the same wouldn't you?
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Grappa said:
Quick, quick, the posh people are saying they'll look after us. I'm all over this fucker, fucking peasants getting themselves disabled and stuff, taking the piss now. You can disagree all you like but you're wrong, the posh people told me. Strong and fucking stable, mate. They're rich for a reason mate, they know what they're on about.
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Rees-Mogg has promised shoes on feet for us peasants. Cheers guv.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I'm quite happy to be a 'Chuka' voter. I've voted Tory, Labour, LD, Green and Ind in various elections over the years. I look at the policies and manifestos and vote according to who's I believe in the most. As someone who says they have independent thought I'd assume you'd do the same wouldn't you?
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So show me any correlation with these parties - which independent did you vote for?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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skybluetony176 said:
Show me any correlation between the Tory Party of today and the Tory Party of ten years ago.
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Well let’s deal with the last time you voted for them. When was it Tony?
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Grendel said:
So show me any correlation with these parties - which independent did you vote for?
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Why do I need to show any correlation between them? As I said I look at the policies and vote accordingly. I can't remember what the name of the independent was - he was a bloke in his early 30's and it was only a LE.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Why do I need to show any correlation between them? As I said I look at the policies and vote accordingly. I can't remember what the name of the independent was - he was a bloke in his early 30's and it was only a LE.
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What policies attracted you compared to the other parties in that election?
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Grendel said:
What policies attracted you compared to the other parties in that election?
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This was a fair while ago and even if I could remember why should I tell you? Are you some kind of bot collecting data (possibly under Alexander's orders ;)) I seem to remember I liked a few of his city centre regeneration ideas and he wanted to work more closely with Warwick Uni to create a base in the city for the renewable energy industry.
 
dutchman

dutchman

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skybluetony176 said:
The article you link is woefully out of date already. The ECB has been talking about stimulus packages for the Eurozone just this month and ruled out QE. You’re portraying what you want to have happened and want to happen not what has happened or is happening. Reality is making you wrong.
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Is it?

ECB announces fresh stimulus as eurozone economy falters

The European Central Bank has announced a fresh stimulus package in an attempt to prevent the fragile eurozone economy from grinding to a halt, with an interest rate cut and plans to pump €20bn (£19bn) a month into the financial markets.

In one of his final acts in his ECB presidency, before Christine Lagarde takes charge in November, Mario Draghi said governments across the eurozone needed to take greater steps to reboot growth by ramping up public spending or cutting taxes.

Draghi’s comments came as the ECB announced it would step in to support the 19-nation currency bloc by revamping its quantitative easing (QE) programme of bond buying. Starting from November, the central bank will buy €20bn of bonds a month from commercial banks in an attempt to inject more money into the economy.

The move restarts a programme paused by the ECB in December after the purchase of €2.6tn of bonds since first use of QE in 2015.
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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dutchman said:
Is it?

ECB announces fresh stimulus as eurozone economy falters

The European Central Bank has announced a fresh stimulus package in an attempt to prevent the fragile eurozone economy from grinding to a halt, with an interest rate cut and plans to pump €20bn (£19bn) a month into the financial markets.

In one of his final acts in his ECB presidency, before Christine Lagarde takes charge in November, Mario Draghi said governments across the eurozone needed to take greater steps to reboot growth by ramping up public spending or cutting taxes.

Draghi’s comments came as the ECB announced it would step in to support the 19-nation currency bloc by revamping its quantitative easing (QE) programme of bond buying. Starting from November, the central bank will buy €20bn of bonds a month from commercial banks in an attempt to inject more money into the economy.

The move restarts a programme paused by the ECB in December after the purchase of €2.6tn of bonds since first use of QE in 2015.
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The UK QE programme has seen the BoE buy £1.1tn worth of bonds. We're not in a place to criticise the ECB.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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dutchman said:
Is it?

ECB announces fresh stimulus as eurozone economy falters

The European Central Bank has announced a fresh stimulus package in an attempt to prevent the fragile eurozone economy from grinding to a halt, with an interest rate cut and plans to pump €20bn (£19bn) a month into the financial markets.

In one of his final acts in his ECB presidency, before Christine Lagarde takes charge in November, Mario Draghi said governments across the eurozone needed to take greater steps to reboot growth by ramping up public spending or cutting taxes.

Draghi’s comments came as the ECB announced it would step in to support the 19-nation currency bloc by revamping its quantitative easing (QE) programme of bond buying. Starting from November, the central bank will buy €20bn of bonds a month from commercial banks in an attempt to inject more money into the economy.

The move restarts a programme paused by the ECB in December after the purchase of €2.6tn of bonds since first use of QE in 2015.
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Yes it is. The article you previously quoted was with regards to the recovery from the financial crisis of 2008. This is a fresh package because of “The stimulus package comes as the eurozone economy falters alongside a broader global economic slowdown that has been triggered by rising trade protectionism and the US-China trade war.” As the article you linked tells you. By the way we’re not immune from the broader global economic downturn either. Nice selective quoting by the way and resurrection of posts.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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djr8369 said:
Have you followed the news at all recently or looked at the evidence? None of this is conspiracy stuff, it’s not “bollocks spouted by somebody else”, most of it is based on the government own contradictions and documents. There certainly nothing glib about using my own eyes and ears to asses the evidence.

Look at your own actions, you’re defending any criticism of the government despite their lies being exposed by the hour, it’s ridiculous.


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Yeah yeah - unless the 'evidence' is biased toward your own opinion. Honestly would you post something against your own opinion? I think not

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SkyblueBazza

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Grendel said:
No as parliament have taken control - the government have lost the Order Paper - the opposition is now responsible for parliament - I think strategically this is great for the Tories

The opposition look frightened of being in government and want to pull the strings but shy away from responsibility

Trying to get court orders might look very clever but the public will not look at it favourably - this is the only opposition that is trying to control parliament without having the courage to sit in the government seats

The government should refuse to re open parliament until the opposition vote they down through the correct process established by the parliament act. They are abusing the intent of the act and that is not in dispute.

Johnson has had in the face of it the worst start of any PM. In any other situation (major was fairly similar) the opposition would be light years ahead in the polls. The fact is though they are not and strategically that’s going to give a lot of encouragement and I suspect every court action and every embarrassing refusal by the opposition to try and hide from the electorate and hold Johnson up as s sacrificial lamb will sit go well with a lot of people
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Can't think of a post you have made that I agree with more strongly. The opposition are trying to force their agenda through without any responsibility or accountability & it will all be working in favour of Boris - love him or hate him.

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SkyblueBazza

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
This was a fair while ago and even if I could remember why should I tell you? Are you some kind of bot collecting data (possibly under Alexander's orders ;)) I seem to remember I liked a few of his city centre regeneration ideas and he wanted to work more closely with Warwick Uni to create a base in the city for the renewable energy industry.
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And 'this being a fair while ago' makes it alright? Like the Crusades is now alright? The cause of the troubles in NI...now alright? Etc

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SkyblueBazza

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So on conference in Europe & tonight sat down with 6 NI colleagues. Interestingly a 50/50 split on Brexit referendum vote.

Shocked & even confused that they were unanimously in favour of Brexit...despite the risk of troubles returning. They believe Brexit should be honoured & were, to my astonishment, wholly supportive of Boris & his approach.

I am baffled somewhat atm...but will give it more thought tomorrow. What do others on here think of this?

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djr8369

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SkyblueBazza said:
Yeah yeah - unless the 'evidence' is biased toward your own opinion. Honestly would you post something against your own opinion? I think not

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I’m commenting on events, it isn’t opinion in this case. The government is digging a hole of its own making, if I’m pointing out that one lie contradicts the previous lie that isn’t opinion it’s just observation.


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