The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (61 Viewers)

[SkyblueBazza]

He obviously did want that. He got outwitted by Parliament and is now desperate, that’s what the noises coming from both government and EU sources state.

For the record, the economic damage between No Deal and the Boris plan is negligible. It’s no deal in all but name really:

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Yeah & it say "estimates" in bold at the bottom. And because you want to believe it spells doom...so it has ceased to be "May's deal" & all of a sudden you have tagged Boris to it...you probably won't make ypur mind up absolutely until 2-5yrs post Brexit, but hey-ho...whatever suits.

It isn't the end yet either mind you...so he might have outwitted parliament besides yourself.

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[SkyblueBazza]

And what was it again? In summary - Britain is the fraud capital of Europe...until the Germans get found out of course. That model constitution whose Government is trying to find a way to circumnavigate it's constitution in order to stimulate investment & it's own economy.

Exclusive: Deutsche Bank took years to flag suspect Danske money flows - source

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[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

So you can't refute any of this scaremongering with facts then?
Been the theme throughout this thread.
Your ability to blindly ignore hard evidence without any constructive counter argument is incredible.


Brexit is going to happen. I want a sound economic reason to embrace it. Tell me one backed by facts. Tell me why predictions of economic gloom are scaremongering?

Are you going to have a martcov meltdown and throw your toys out of the pram?
You need to lighten up.

 

[clint van damme]

Are you going to have a martcov meltdown and throw your toys out of the pram?
You need to lighten up.

HAHA! Asking someone to explain something is having a meltdown! I think it's fair to summarise you don't actually have an answer which I find hilarious to be honest.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

HAHA! Asking someone to explain something is having a meltdown! I think it's fair to summarise you don't actually have an answer which I find hilarious to be honest.

I'm glad you get some hilarity from it,I genuinely do. What will you do if we leave the EU in the next few months , get on with life or constantly pump out statistics on here ?
Scaremongering isn't something I have to provide evidence either for nor against. It's scaremongering pure and simple.

 

[shmmeee]

Yeah & it say "estimates" in bold at the bottom. And because you want to believe it spells doom...so it has ceased to be "May's deal" & all of a sudden you have tagged Boris to it...you probably won't make ypur mind up absolutely until 2-5yrs post Brexit, but hey-ho...whatever suits.

It isn't the end yet either mind you...so he might have outwitted parliament besides yourself.

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Mate. You’re grasping at straws. Yes it’s an estimate. Unless you’re about to bust out your patent pending revolutionary economic model to make a better prediction it’s the best we’ve got.

As for Mays deal can Boris’, I thought there wasn’t much change. As I posted earlier I was wrong, Boris’ plan is far far worse.

 

[clint van damme]

I'm glad you get some hilarity from it,I genuinely do. What will you do if we leave the EU in the next few months , get on with life or constantly pump out statistics on here ?
Scaremongering isn't something I have to provide evidence either for nor against. It's scaremongering pure and simple.

HAHA!! Brilliant!

 

[shmmeee]

I'm glad you get some hilarity from it,I genuinely do. What will you do if we leave the EU in the next few months , get on with life or constantly pump out statistics on here ?
Scaremongering isn't something I have to provide evidence either for nor against. It's scaremongering pure and simple.

Economic downturn isn’t the end of the world. It just makes everyone’s life a little bit shitter. Fewer jobs, lower pay, higher living costs, less public services.

We’re just asking for one benefit that might start to outweigh all of that. And let’s be honest, you haven’t got one. Because it’s an exercise in faith like religion.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Economic downturn isn’t the end of the world. It just makes everyone’s life a little bit shitter. Fewer jobs, lower pay, higher living costs, less public services.

We’re just asking for one benefit that might start to outweigh all of that. And let’s be honest, you haven’t got one. Because it’s an exercise in faith like religion.

And how long is your economic downturn likely to last ? What are all your so called experts telling you ? 10 years at least I suspect.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

And how long is your economic downturn likely to last ? What are all your so called experts telling you ? 10 years at least I suspect.

Rhees mogg who isn’t perhaps the most ardent remainer suggested the benefits would be in 50 years

 

[Sick Boy]

It looks like the UK is going to have to make yet another concession to get a deal.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Rhees mogg who isn’t perhaps the most ardent remainer suggested the benefits would be in 50 years

What benefits does he say we'll get?

 

[skybluetony176]

What benefits does he say we'll get?

Shoes on feet. Thanks guv. Tips hat.

Why Rees-Mogg is still voting with his feet | Stewart Lee

Shoes on feet eh. Well, at least we’ll have shoe box to live in in middle of motorway. Probably still have to get up half an hour before we go to bed though.

 

[bezzer]

What benefits does he say we'll get?

Blue Passports.
Bendy Bananas.
I'm sure there was some mention regarding Kippers too.

 

[skybluetony176]

Blue Passports.
Bendy Bananas.
I'm sure there was some mention regarding Kippers too.

Twice as many pigs ears exported to China. Never mind our pet dogs, there’s a pigs ear shortage in China.

 

[shmmeee]

And how long is your economic downturn likely to last ? What are all your so called experts telling you ? 10 years at least I suspect.

You realise lost growth is lost forever, right?

Oh god you probably don’t.

 

[skybluetony176]

Blue Passports.
Bendy Bananas.
I'm sure there was some mention regarding Kippers too.

IIRC the kippers was Boris trying to blame the EU for something that was actually controlled by our sovereign government and he could seek to change at any time should he wish to take it up through our sovereign parliament.

 

[Grendel]

You realise lost growth is lost forever, right?

And you realise future “lost growth” was never there at all, right?

 

[skybluetony176]

And how long is your economic downturn likely to last ? What are all your so called experts telling you ? 10 years at least I suspect.

“Your economic downturn”? Are we to assume that you don’t reside in the U.K.?

 

[shmmeee]

“Your economic downturn”? Are we to assume that you don’t reside in the U.K.?

Obviously True Brexit Believers will be exempt from any consequences because they have proven their worth through sufficient Belief In Brexit.

I notice he didn’t manage to find a single upside to Brexit yet. Anyone want to help him out?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

So, the keenness of extreme Brexiteers to keep NoDeal on the table
(1) has no effect on EU negotiations (because it doesn't adjust the incentives in the ways it is sometimes pretended it does); and
(2) it has a substantial and damaging and long-term, mostly-irreversible negative impact on an industry that employs a staggering 0.8million people in the UK, with many businesses already wholly relocated, and a huge proportion diverting investment elsewhere.

The impact will, I guess, fall mostly in the Midlands and the North.

It should be said that most Brexit deals (except those that preserve the Customs Union & Single Market membership) are pretty severely damaging too, because documentation and standards alignment are as great, if not greater, issues than tariffs (and that's assuming that tariffs could be negotiated low).

One-third of car firms have cut jobs amid Brexit uncertainty

obviously more fake evidence based news

 

[skybluetony176]

Leaked leaflets from the Tory party are apparently pointing to a Brexit delay and very much targeting the Brexit party.

Tory campaign leaflets suggest Brexit delay

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What benefits does he say we'll get?

Think he was talking economic

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Think he was talking economic

Would still like to know what they are, and how they choose to model such benefits so far into the future.

 

[shmmeee]

Would still like to know what they are, and how they choose to model such benefits so far into the future.

Its bullshit for the faithful. Tories like him, who normally would never be looked at twice by working class voters, have suddenly been handed a blank cheque because they say things they like in a posh accent.

Mogg knows it’ll fuck the country, he’s counting on it to make himself stacks of cash. He also knows that he’s cultivated a following that is actively suspicious of informed people and only believe the high priests of Brexit.

As I said, handing a blank cheque to politicians because you agree with one policy is a very very dangerous game.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

 

[skybluetony176]

Someone should tell JRM
Brexit: Rees-Mogg says he can't confirm Saturday sitting as EU talks continue - live news | Politics | The Guardian

 

[Sick Boy]

IIRC the kippers was Boris trying to blame the EU for something that was actually controlled by our sovereign government and he could seek to change at any time should he wish to take it up through our sovereign parliament.

As was the blue passports myth when there was nothing stopping the UK from having them.

 

[Sick Boy]

if only the UK had complied with EU demands from the start it’d have been far easier. I’m sure our friends the Americans will be far kinder and give us a good deal

 

[skybluetony176]

if only the UK had complied with EU demands from the start it’d have been far easier. I’m sure our friends the Americans will be far kinder and give us a good deal

They look after their friends. Just ask the Kurds.

 

[ccfc92]

Shoes on feet. Thanks guv. Tips hat.

Why Rees-Mogg is still voting with his feet | Stewart Lee

Shoes on feet eh. Well, at least we’ll have shoe box to live in in middle of motorway. Probably still have to get up half an hour before we go to bed though.

I genuinely find this hilarious

 

[westcountry_skyblue]

I genuinely find this hilarious

Another leftie luvvie comedian living in the London bubble.

 

[skybluetony176]

Another leftie luvvie comedian living in the London bubble.

He prefers to be referred to as a metro liberal elite.

 

[shmmeee]

Another leftie luvvie comedian living in the London bubble.

Such a funny complaint when you see the company right wing comedians like Clarkson keep.

 

[Sick Boy]

Another leftie luvvie comedian living in the London bubble.

yeah cos the likes of Rees Mogg are living in the same world as the working man