I don’t think anything of it, I wasn’t aware of it. Doesn’t sound particularly interesting, quite a lot of people think we should honour the result don’t they? What’s your point?
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I don’t think anything of it, I wasn’t aware of it. Doesn’t sound particularly interesting, quite a lot of people think we should honour the result don’t they? What’s your point?
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Grendel
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Well you e just said public opinion has changed - “the tide has turned” - what did you mean?
Sick Boy
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what’s your opinion of the one that is emerging? As you’ve previously called for the EEA as I compromise I presume you’d be for it?
No I meant in terms of what voices are prevalent. During the campaign and after the leave narrative dominated dragging the governments position to its current conundrum of conflicting ideas that can’t be resolved. Over the last maybe 12 months remain voices have started to take over as reality has hit home.
When was the last time anyone tried to make a positive argument for Brexit? It’s all fallen by the wayside and we’re left with “but we voted for it”. Even Farage is quiet because what best serves him at the moment is scamming pensioners at Brexit party rallies.
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shmmeee
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You think the ERG don’t want to leave?
shmmeee
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No. It’s people like Patrick Minford the Brexiter pet economist. And people like the authors of Brittiania Unchained who are now in cabinet.
You do realise this is just a discussion thread on a football forum and the actual stuff happens in Westminster, right?
Astute
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Yes this thread is irrelevant. But it hasn't stopped some from hitting hard with their agenda even if it meant constantly twisting the truth at best and insulting others when caught out. Just like elsewhere. And it is all irrelevant. It won't change anything.
If it would have a chance of changing things I might have tried bullshitting my way through this thread like others have to get remain to happen.
Astute
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Are you saying that in parliament most noise is made on behalf of leave?
ccfc92
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That's definitely not me mate, I just find it funny that apparently all leaver voters are dressed like Oliver Twist with no shoes and would doff their hat to Rees-Mogg.
Just makes me chuckle, simple Neanderthal Leaver mind and all that probably.
The point is in JRM absurd analogy that’s how he’s effectively paining the electorate.
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“DUP will vote down anything negotiable” well who’d have thought...
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No he’s clearly not saying that. He’s saying how he described the vision for Brexit, which you (wrongly) attributed to him, is the vision as described by prominent leavers who are now in influential positions.
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SkyBlueDom26
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Hopefully the conservatives fuck the DUP off and make a pact with the brexit party in the next elections..... would win a large majority as the lib dems won't team with Labour
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Astute
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Did he?
All the noise is supposed to be from leave. It isn't. So he kind of mentioned politically. Which is normal for this thread. Kind of say things that look like one thing but can be changed if challenged.
So where is all the noise for leave then?
Astute
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And then what?
The Tories would need a majority to push anything through. Easy?
Think again. They would need a majority that want to leave. And I don't think they would get it. The majority of politicians want to remain. And enough feel strongly enough to go against party policy. The Tories would need a large majority to have a chance of pushing anything through.
shmmeee
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Have you got confused?
You said the people saying we’d fuck manufacturing etc were people like me who weren’t leavers. Nothing about “noise”. That was a different conversation thread.
SkyblueBazza
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Clarkson? As in Jeremy? Thought he was a TV presenter not a comedian? If he is what you think is a comedian you need to re-evaluate your sense of humour.
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You seem to have conflated two separate points from two different people and misinterpreted them but I’ll try and answer you.
Where is all the noise for leave? - as I stated the noise for leave in the media seems to have abated somewhat as it met with reality yet the government is still in a knot of its own making as it now tries to tweak the deal and get the DUP onboard.
As somebody else stated - the noise, within the Tory party and government, is still there in the form of the prominent leavers who are still plotting the course.
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SkyBlueDom26
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shmmeee
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1) What election? No way anti-no dealers go for an election when it looks like a no deal party will return a majority.
2) Most seat projections but BXP on one seat, so they’ll be completely powerless in parliament. There is more chance of Caroline Lucas being kingmaker than Nigel Farage.
shmmeee
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You think he’s a serious car journalist?
Grendel
Well-Known Member
When at the BBC he was the most influential figure in the media for automotive opinion by a country mile
SkyblueBazza
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Mark Robins might well be considered an expert on football matters. He doesn't throw cherry-picked stats around to the fans to state categorically that Coventry will beat Ipswich. If he did - would you believe him?
That is all the 'experts' are doing. Carefully selecting data & stats to prove their point. The hardest bit for them is making their point look credible.
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shmmeee
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Hilarious considering reports today that it’s IDS who is most against the Boris compromise.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
As a data scientist: that is not how it works. At all.
You want unbiased, go to the finance sites. Rich people don’t play pretend when it comes to their money. You’ll find then all saying the same.
Not really. They’re not using stats. They’re making predictions based on models developed using information from the various tariff structures that have been mooted. Businesses are doing the same internally and coming to the same conclusions generally.
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Yeah, disgraceful finger pointing from IDS to cover his own back.
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shmmeee
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Dan Hannan on life after Brexit, written pre-referendum. Good for a laugh: What Britain looks like after Brexit - Reaction
SkyBlueDom26
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shmmeee
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He needs: all Tories, all rebels, all DUP and a couple of Labour leavers. It’s going to be tight.
SkyBlueDom26
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Lightwork bro
skybluetony176
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shmmeee
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Moggmentum purge of the Tory party continues:
This was sent to her, remember an MP that voted for Brexit 3 times!
I am too old to understand this comment.
This was sent to her, remember an MP that voted for Brexit 3 times!
I am too old to understand this comment.