The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (20 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

OR is it grown men getting upset that someone pointed something out, when questioning calling him his real name when he has been called Boris since he was a kid, that hit a nerve for them?

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No. You got upset because a grown man was addressed by his actual name, again, his actual name.

 

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[skybluetony176]

OMGGGGGG HE'S MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR ONCE

Don’t get too excited. He rejected it in favour of a Labour amendment and an SNP amendment. Haven’t read what the details of those amendments are yet but I would imagine that the speaker felt that the Lib Dem amendment replicated the other two amendments either in part or it’s entirety.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Don’t get too excited. He rejected it in favour of a Labour amendment and an SNP amendment. Haven’t read what the details of those amendments are yet but I would imagine that the speaker felt that the Lib Dem amendment replicated the other two amendments either in part or it’s entirety.

He'll stop at nothing to disrupt brexit, traitor

 

[Monners]

Funnily enough, a mate of mine called me a traitor for saying that I still think Brexit is a bad idea (in regard to the UK economy).

 

[Sick Boy]

He'll stop at nothing to disrupt brexit, traitor

Traitor hahahaha

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Traitor hahahaha

Bantsssssssssssssssssssssss m888

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

If you are aware of his background you'd know that he indeed apparently started to call himself Boris - in his first term at Eton in 1977. Not sure he was in a position to further his political career at that stage beyond education...certainly doubt calling himself Boris would further it anyhow tbh

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So you're saying he couldn't by that time be ambitious and be doing things to further his own ambitions, be they academic/economic/journalistic/political and be creating two personas to help in his quest? As I say his close friends apparently call him Al or Alexander. That Acuri woman says she referred to him as 'Alex the Great'.

It's not to do with the benefit of any particular name (chances are it was just the first to come to mind as it's his middle name), it is the mask it provides him as a persona he puts forward to the public.

If you want to go psuedo-psychological it means he could also use it to disassociate himself from his worst behaviour (DID/MPD). Like Gollum and Smeagol in LOTR. This next bit is pure speculation but I know my nan used to use my mum's full name when she was unhappy with her or telling her off when she was little (and me). So she associated that name with naughtiness or trouble. Apparently this was common among her friends too. So if something similar happened to Alexander (who is roughly the similar generation) Boris could be the naughty little boy that gets in trouble. Alexander is the good boy.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

It seems the only one on here to regard Blair as a socialist is you

Lol and you wonder why Astute accuses you repeatedly of putting words into his mouth or twisting his words around. I am thinking maybe the "Sick" in your name is just really an inability to understand what is before you

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[SkyblueBazza]

No. You got upset because a grown man was addressed by his actual name, again, his actual name.

Was I upset?

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[shmmeee]

If you are aware of his background you'd know that he indeed apparently started to call himself Boris - in his first term at Eton in 1977. Not sure he was in a position to further his political career at that stage beyond education...certainly doubt calling himself Boris would further it anyhow tbh

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You realise his family call him Alexander?

All this “waff waff waff Victorians playing table tennis” is a shtick for people he wants onside. He’s even said he pretends to be useless so people don’t know when it’s genuine.

Same as Mogg, cosplaying a Victorian Tory to soften his views.

 

[djr8369]

In fairness he said "leavers such as yourself, or the likes of Astute...etc"
OR being the key word that suggests he doesn't necessarily consider you to be a leaver.

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He’s busy pointing out lies, ain’t got no time for details.


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[shmmeee]

Bantsssssssssssssssssssssss m888

Right? Like if a Muslim shout Allah Akhbar it’s just bants

 

[shmmeee]

I’m struggling to think of one MP I would leave my kids with. Sure Boris would be good fun but you would be picking them up from A&E.

Jess Phillips, though I have massive issues with her, would clearly be a great Mum.

 

[shmmeee]

I'm probably in this category to be honest but this has to come to a head soon, hopefully given time to assess it MPs will put in amendments to improve the agreement and get it through.

I don't see any good outcomes from this, just some that aren't as bad as others.

Why did your generation fuck the country over Dad?

Mostly cos the news was a bit boring Son

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Right? Like if a Muslim shout Allah Akhbar it’s just bants

What the fuck are you waffling on about now

 

[shmmeee]

There are plenty that do...Google it! Here is one specifically gathered as it is by a Professor who I imagine with fits your view about being "expert" - although I think true to form you will argue with it on at least one count because that is what you do.

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The fact you think k simply having the title professor makes someone an expert on everything says so so much.

 

[shmmeee]

What the fuck are you waffling on about now

Shouting terrorist catchphrases at people.

bants.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Shouting terrorist catchphrases at people.

bants.

Weird shmmeee

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Regardless of you know what she’s still entitled to an opinion and as an elected MP to pursue a course of action to assimilate that opinion into action. Without that liberty you know what would never have happened so you should be grateful that we’re the type of democracy that allows this behaviour within our constitution and applaud the use of it.

Nothing to do with the fact that you just happen, like ms Swindon, to believe that the will of the majority should be ignored .
Ms Swineson represents Ms Swinehund first and foremost. An opportunist politician who will very soon fall on her sword, never to be seen again.

 

[skybluetony176]

Was I upset?

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Certainly enough to bring it up in the first place. On a scale of 1 to 10 of how upset you should be about a grown man being addressed by his actual name with 1 being not upset at all and anything above being a ridiculous amount to be upset about a grown man being addressed by his actual name you fell into the area known as being ridiculously upset. You’re clearly not an 11, but just bringing it up excludes you from being a 1.

 

[skybluetony176]

Nothing to do with the fact that you just happen, like ms Swindon, to believe that the will of the majority should be ignored .
Ms Swineson represents Ms Swineson first and foremost. An opportunist politician who will very soon fall on her sword, never to be seen again.

As I keep pointing out, what was campaigned for is not being delivered. I’ve linked the official vote leave campaigns website numerous times over the last couple of days. We’re leaving, I’m OK with that, I don’t like it but I’m OK with it. But if the destination has changed, and it has, then the country should be given the opportunity to get of the bus.

 

[clint van damme]

Why did your generation fuck the country over Dad?

Staying in is the only way to.keep the economy on an even keel.
Politically, that would cause mayhem and would be a boon to the likes of Farage and Bannon.
Leaving with a deal and trying to make that deal as painless as possible seems like the best of the bad options.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I’m struggling to think of one MP I would leave my kids with. Sure Boris would be good fun but you would be picking them up from A&E.

You'd leave them with Jo Swine-Traitor.
I would . She's got the biggest tits.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Boris Johnson launches new bid for 12 December general election

Time to shine chicken

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

In all seriousness, surely Corbyn being in charge will finish labour

 

[Sick Boy]

Lol and you wonder why Astute accuses you repeatedly of putting words into his mouth or twisting his words around. I am thinking maybe the "Sick" in your name is just really an inability to understand what is before you

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He actually accuses many people of doing that, weird isn’t it.

You’re the only on here who’s suggested that Blair is a socialist. Who else on here has ever suggested that Blair is a socialist?

No it’s actually a character from a film.

 

[Sick Boy]

Bantsssssssssssssssssssssss m888

The poster boy of Brexit Britain

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

The poster boy of Brexit Britain

You're jealous because martcov has gone AWOL.

 

[ccfc92]

You're jealous because martcov has gone AWOL.

That's a point, where is he?

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

That's a point, where is he?

I think he's in disguise.
He's a bastion of remain integrity.

 

[shmmeee]

Weird shmmeee

What? Right wing terrorists use the “traitor” meme like Islamic ones use “god is great”.

Here, evidence, try not to burst into flames when exposed to it:

Neo-Nazi group publishes online threat to kill 'race traitor' top police officer

How a once-ridiculed BNP Youth leader planned a neo-Nazi terror attack

The slow-burning hatred that led Thomas Mair to murder Jo Cox

Bants innit?

 

[chiefdave]

Boris Johnson launches new bid for 12 December general election

You must be furious with Johnson finding more ways to delay Brexit. All that time that could have been spent getting his agreement through parliament that will now, if he gets his way, be spent on a general election instead.

 

[skybluetony176]

You must be furious with Johnson finding more ways to delay Brexit. All that time that could have been spent getting his agreement through parliament that will now, if he gets his way, be spent on a general election instead.

Especially if as reported the EU offer us a Flexible extension meaning that we can leave the minute all the legislation is passed. Bloody leavers are never going to let us leave. We know what we voted for.

(edit) Sorry. WE KNOW WHAT WE VOTED FOR!

 

[Grendel]

You must be furious with Johnson finding more ways to delay Brexit. All that time that could have been spent getting his agreement through parliament that will now, if he gets his way, be spent on a general election instead.

All people opposed to Johnson must be spitting feathers that the opposition parties believe he is the best prime minister available

 

[Astute]

I work in an industrial area of Birmingham which has gone from incredibly busy to everyday resembling a Sunday in the last couple of years.
There are a lot of factors involved but uncertainty and firms not investing due to uncertainty is definitely a big one.

We need to get something decisive done and move on. As far as I'm concerned there is no good outcome from this but at least once we've had a definitive outcome everyone can start planning for the future no matter what shit storm we have to navigate our way through first.

As you know I have been saying exactly the same. But some see me as a target for saying so thinking that I am a leaver.

We just can't continue like this. Nobody can move forward with confidence whichever side of the fence you are on. It is even worse for my family in France. All the local Mairie's want the Brits to stay. They even want more Brits to move in. But nobody has a clue what is going on.