The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (52 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

He's tried to get it done idiot!!! Its the people you support who are making it impossible to get through because of bullshit laws and acts

Dim, bullshit laws and acts is our sovereignty, it's the will of the people if you like

 

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[shmmeee]

He's tried to get it done idiot!!! Its the people you support who are making it impossible to get through because of bullshit laws and acts

Again. He’s literally refusing to push the Brexit deal through unless Labour agree to an election.

Face it, you just love Boris and unquestioningly follow what he says. Even when it’s against your own interests.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Yes they were boomers, the war generation are mostly Remain.

And this shit has been all over my FB wall for years, you must’ve been blind to miss it.

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Do the maths. If you were born in the early to mid 1930s you'd likely remember the war but at the time of the referendum you'd be in your late 80s now or very likely deceased.
Anyone born in the 40, 50, and 60s isn't going to remember Ww2 and certainly are old enough not to give a toss about these "meme" twattish things online.
I think they're your audience here aren't they? So you're well and truly out of touch.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Dim, bullshit laws and acts is our sovereignty, it's the will of the people if you like

Dim, that really all you can offer? Time to grow up i think

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Dim, bullshit laws and acts is our sovereignty, it's the will of the people if you like

Dim. rofl

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Dim. rofl

Yeah its soooo funny haha can't stop laughing

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It may be another case of winning the popular vote but not the electoral college. Especially with the further gerrymandering and ID needed to combat (almost non-existent) voter fraud (which mainly occurs on the Rep side by people fooled by the right-wing rhetoric and do it to 'even it out'.

Bernie is quite hard left for America, especially in 'red' states whereas over here he's thought of as quite reasonable left wing.

Peronally I'd have loved to see Michelle Obama go for it. To see Trump not just beaten by an Obama, but someone black AND a woman. Sweet! Plus she's very good at public speaking and she's wipe the floor with Trump. It'd be fun just to see him have a meltdown live on TV in a debate.

Except he isn’t hard left for the USA-the public is on board with the vast majority of his ideas. He polls particularly well in the mid West which won it for Trump and he has a lengthy track record of being anti corruption. The American public is much less conservative than its lawmakers.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

TBF, when budgets were cut It was up to the old bill where they made those savings. It was easier under police regs and contracts to make the older coppers retire when they'd got their 30 years service in and simply no replace them. There were still loads doing investigations and back office work that a civvy could fulfill. What the should have done was make those who carried a warrant card and weren't on restricted duties get back on the front line.

When cuts were as deep as they were what else were they going to do?

 

[clint van damme]

He lives in dreamland, he'd make us enemies with Trump and the USA who are our main allies.. he can't be trusted

Let's revisit this post when you're remortgaging your house to pay your medical bills

 

[shmmeee]

Do the maths. If you were born in the early to mid 1930s you'd likely remember the war but at the time of the referendum you'd be in your late 80s now or very likely deceased.
Anyone born in the 40, 50, and 60s isn't going to remember Ww2 and certainly are old enough not to give a toss about these "meme" twattish things online.
I think they're your audience here aren't they? So you're well and truly out of touch.

You are spectacularly missing the point.

The people who use war imagery and go on about Blitz spirit and sticking it to the Germans are a bunch of posers who weren’t born during the war.

 

[skybluetony176]

He's tried to get it done idiot!!! Its the people you support who are making it impossible to get through because of bullshit laws and acts

He’s only got this far because the remainers pushed him. You’re welcome by the way. The last time we pushed something through Parliament this quick on the word of a PM we invaded Iraq of the back of a dressed up dossier that received no scrutiny in Parliament. If the importance of proper scrutiny is lost on you from that lesson then you really are lost.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

He's tried to get it done idiot!!! Its the people you support who are making it impossible to get through because of bullshit laws and acts

He's tried to get it done by voting down the WA and resigning from cabinet. This practically forced May to step down and have a Tory leadership contest (which is what he wanted), wasting even more time. He's tried to push the debate back as far as possible by proroguing parliament. He's held back the Withdrawal Agreement from parliament to scrutinise.

The only thing you could argue he's done to get Brexit done is try to push through the WA on a speeded up processes, but even that when put to even slight scrutiny is disingenuous. He went for that knowing it was very unlikely to be agreed to. So what did he do? Threaten to pull the WA entirely and demand an election, which will take another further month from the timetable. Not because it helps Brexit, but because it favours him.

Didn't think it'd matter anyway, because you were certain the EU wouldn't grant an extension?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

He's tried to get it done by voting down the WA and resigning from cabinet. This practically forced May to step down and have a Tory leadership contest (which is what he wanted), wasting even more time. He's tried to push the debate back as far as possible by proroguing parliament. He's held back the Withdrawal Agreement from parliament to scrutinise.

The only thing you could argue he's done to get Brexit done is try to push through the WA on a speeded up processes, but even that when put to even slight scrutiny is disingenuous. He went for that knowing it was very unlikely to be agreed to. So what did he do? Threaten to pull the WA entirely and demand an election, which will take another further month from the timetable. Not because it helps Brexit, but because it favours him.

Didn't think it'd matter anyway, because you were certain the EU wouldn't grant an extension?

Its a good idea, a majority will form and then none of pissing around will be allowed to happen anymore

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Let's revisit this post when you're remortgaging your house to pay your medical bills

One day he'll realise the Tories aren't interested in him - they prefer non-dom's

 

[clint van damme]

Corbyn would collapse the economy with all that borrowing he plans:smuggrin:

Explain where Boris is getting the money from for all the spending he's promised?

Proper answer, no silly slogans or sounbites please

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Its a good idea, a majority will form and then none of pissing around will be allowed to happen anymore

Wasn't that the thinking behind the 2017 election?

 

[shmmeee]

Its a good idea, a majority will form and then none of pissing around will be allowed to happen anymore

The pissing around from Johnson you mean?

Deluded. He could piss on your head and you’d think it’s raining.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Wasn't that the thinking behind the 2017 election?

Now people realise how clueless Corbyn is and how his brexit plans are losing so many voters, we shall see!

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

The pissing around from Johnson you mean?

Deluded. He could piss on your head and you’d think it’s raining.

God you talk some shite

 

[shmmeee]

Now people realise how clueless Corbyn is and how his brexit plans are losing so many voters, we shall see!

Brexit voters went Tory in 2017, not Labour.

 

[shmmeee]

God you talk some shite

OK mate. Solid argument. A+ debating skills.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Brexit voters went Tory in 2017, not Labour.

And now more of them will

 

[skybluetony176]

Its a good idea, a majority will form and then none of pissing around will be allowed to happen anymore

When Teresa May lost her majority at the last election she was consistently polling at over 40%, just before she announced an election she was polling in some polls nearer to 50% which with a margin of error allowed could have actually been over 50%. I wouldn’t be staking anything about an election going the way you think it will. Even if current polling is correct at best case scenario the numbers in parliament by all analyses of the polls predict no change except for gains for the Lib Dem’s and SNP. Even with Labour losing predicted seats a Lib Dem/SNP/Labour alliance could well be a likely outcome for the next government. The Tories seem to be on their own, they’ve burned their differences with the DUP (from the feet I know on the ground I think the DUP may well take a hiding in a general election anyway) and a pack with the Brexit Party (should they get any elected MP’s anyway as it looks like the only thing they’ll do is split the leaver vote to the detriment of both the Tories and Labour) seems unlikely anyway unless the Tories come over to a hard brexit. I really struggle to find a scenario where a general election goes the way you think it will.

 

[shmmeee]

And now more of them will

Why aren’t we seeing that in the polls then? All the Brexit movement has been between BXP and Tory. Lexiters won’t vote for Farage or Johnson.

 

[SIR ERNIE]

The general public is a bit thick-there is no controversy to be had

Funny how those who call the electorate thick are the same ones who call for them to be given a final vote on a deal so complex that parliament must be allowed several weeks to properly scrutinise it.

 

[shmmeee]

When Teresa May lost her majority at the last election she was consistently polling at over 40%, just before she announced an election she was polling in some polls nearer to 50% which with a margin of error allowed could have actually been over 50%. I wouldn’t be staking anything about an election going the way you think it will. Even if current polling is correct at best case scenario the numbers in parliament by all analyses of the polls predict no change except for gains for the Lib Dem’s and SNP. Even with Labour losing predicted seats a Lib Dem/SNP/Labour alliance could well be a likely outcome for the next government. The Tories seem to be on their own, they’ve burned their differences with the DUP (from the feet I know on the ground I think the DUP may well take a hiding in a general election anyway) and a pack with the Brexit Party (should they get any elected MP’s anyway as it looks like the only thing they’ll do is split the leaver vote to the detriment of both the Tories and Labour) seems unlikely anyway unless the Tories come over to a hard brexit. I really struggle to find a scenario where a general election goes the way you think it will.

Johnson is also less popular than May amazingly. Though Corbyn is even less popular than before.

It’s all going to come down to turnout and tactical voting. An election out of term time will hurt Remain parties, but from what I’ve seen Brexit voters don’t pay enough attention to politics to effectively vote tactically.

Gonna be close.

 

[shmmeee]

Funny how those who call the electorate thick are the same ones who call for them to be given a final vote on a deal so complex that parliament must be allowed several weeks to properly scrutinise it.

You think we should just revoke? Bold.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Now people realise how clueless Corbyn is and how his brexit plans are losing so many voters, we shall see!

Again that was the thinking in 2017. Corbyn is unelectable so have a quick election, larger majority, can push whatever we like through.

I'll give you Boris is better at getting people to like him than May but the way things are recently I'd take nothing for granted. There are sadly a number of people for whom who they vote for in a GE is too ingrained to change no matter what they say before hand. When push comes to shove they put that tick in the box they've always put it in.

 

[shmmeee]

Again that was the thinking in 2017. Corbyn is unelectable so have a quick election, larger majority, can push whatever we like through.

I'll give you Boris is better at getting people to like him than May but the way things are recently I'd take nothing for granted. There are sadly a number of people for whom who they vote for in a GE is too ingrained to change no matter what they say before hand. When push comes to shove they put that tick in the box they've always put it in.

Johnson 'less capable and trustworthy than May when she was PM'

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

You think we should just revoke? Bold.

Clearly you completely misunderstood what he said.

 

[shmmeee]

Clearly you completely misunderstood what he said.

Im just playing. But surely either you think the public is capable of voting in both referenda or neither?

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Im just playing. But surely either you think the public is capable of voting in both referenda or neither?

whoooosh

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

You are spectacularly missing the point.

The people who use war imagery and go on about Blitz spirit and sticking it to the Germans are a bunch of posers who weren’t born during the war.

You're completely missing the point. No one is taken in by this shite so what on earth is the significance of it ? Nothing.
How many of these posers are there ? 17 million or 6 sad gits in the pub ?

 

[shmmeee]

You're completely missing the point. No one is taken in by this shite so what on earth is the significance of it ? Nothing.

If anyone has the data on what Brexit voters like its Leave.EU and they think this imagery works.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

If anyone has the data on what Brexit voters like its Leave.EU and they think this imagery works.

You clearly believe it. We're not all as gullible.
Go and speak to someone born in the 1930s or 40s. Lots voted remain.