General Election 2019 thread (33 Viewers)

[Walsgrave]

Beaten? Wtf are you on about? Go and live abroad then if you love them so much.

When migrants 'take the jobs' of British people, despite not being able to speak the language etc, then it says a lot about the latter group

 

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[Astute]

Maybe you should ask yourself why TV shows like that even exist....

Have you heard of social conditioning?

Because they are cheap to make and people these days love watching bullshit. And the more someone suffers the more people watch.

But yeah let's make a point that doesn't exist.

 

[The coventrian]

When migrants 'take the jobs' of British people, despite not being able to speak the language etc, then it says a lot about the latter group

Of course it's got nothing to do with th

When migrants 'take the jobs' of British people, despite not being able to speak the language etc, then it says a lot about the latter group

Of course it's got nothing to do with the migrants working here for peanuts though as the wage In the country they should be in is ridiculously low? Undercutting our own workers?
A born and bred worker here cant have any kind of quality of life working for £3/£4 an hour. The migrants will and employers will exploit them. How many do they sleep in a bedroom in these hmo's? 10/15?
Doesn't matter though does it as they've got one up on your own you fucking hypocrite.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

Not really, it’s pretty easy to track the costs of healthcare, arrests and the like. The point is not to give people a free ride but to get them on their feet and with a realistic chance of contributing to society. Leaving people to fester on the street doesn’t work out for anybody.

Not everyone becomes homeless by being a waste of space as you seem to assume

Not everybody wants to contribute positively to society either. What would you do with them?

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[SkyblueBazza]

by your logic people would police the streets themselves and fix pot holes in the streets themselves when government fails, which is as you are aware a nonsensical idea.
And the withdrawal of benefits is pretty conclusive in the deaths of those examples I've given and the coroner cited the work assessment as the direct cause in the inquest of poor fella who took his own life though you'll still argue against it.
Have a good boxing day.

Im not arguing the terrible outcome, not arguing the change to his benefits impacted either. I am arguing that to blame austerity directly for everything you take issue with because of lack of funding (or misuse of) is as ludicrous as all the arguments you & others have made about people blaming the EU for everything!

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[SkyblueBazza]

If you’re aware that a lot have drug or alcohol problems, why are you so surprised they are going to want money for alcohol or drugs? Someone with a heroin habit is going to choose money over food and is often not going to have much of an appetite.

Nor care about having a roof over their head

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[Walsgrave]

Of course it's got nothing to do with th

Of course it's got nothing to do with the migrants working here for peanuts though as the wage In the country they should be in is ridiculously low? Undercutting our own workers?
A born and bred worker here cant have any kind of quality of life working for £3/£4 an hour. The migrants will and employers will exploit them. How many do they sleep in a bedroom in these hmo's? 10/15?
Doesn't matter though does it as they've got one up on your own you fucking hypocrite.

Nope, what you describe is exploitation/slavery which I too am against. For legitimate work however, we have something the called the minimum wage. The premise of a capitalist society is one in which the most suitable workers are selected for whatever salary an employer wishes to pay them. If Britain wants to benefit from that kind of society, then it must be prepared to accept the means through which this works. Otherwise, you should direct your anger towards employers - after all, it is they who have decided that they'd rather employ 'bloody foreigners'.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

It’s the government’s statistics not mine.

But they DO NOT say austerity is the cause of more people becoming homeless. Most recently, uncertainty bought about by denial over & delay of Brexit has created so much turmoil THAT could be blamed, you could blame relaxed border controls & poor implementation of EU &/or UK border laws from 1995 or 1980 if you choose. What you ARE choosing is to blame austerity...& I strongly suspect you're doing it simply because it was Tory led!


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[clint van damme]

Im not arguing the terrible outcome, not arguing the change to his benefits impacted either. I am arguing that to blame austerity directly for everything you take issue with because of lack of funding (or misuse of) is as ludicrous as all the arguments you & others have made about people blaming the EU for everything!

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I didn't blame austerity for everything which is why I agreed with Grendel that the report that came up with the deaths from austerity figure of 130,000 was flawed.
However, if it's 1 percent of those deaths, it's too many in an economy as rich as ours.
Obviously deaths through changes to benefits is only one aspect of austerity. Crime has increased in line with cuts to police services and NHS targets have been missed in conjunction with cuts to funding. I think it's fair to say austerity bears quite a bit of the responsibility.

 

[Sick Boy]

Seems like we've got another 49 to pay for now. Im sure the likes of sick boy,tony and ian would pay more tax to look after them?
Apparently they're from Iran,Iraq and Afghanistan. So why not stop at the first safe country? Is it because we've turned into a nation of liberal soft twats?
Should of sunk the boats.

So you’re lumping tax paying skilled and unskilled working migrants into those entering the country illegally, wow that’s a surprise.

They’re probably able to grasp the difficult English language concept of ‘should have’ though.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not everybody wants to contribute positively to society either. What would you do with them?

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I wouldn't give up on them as easily as some here seem to.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Of course it's got nothing to do with the migrants working here for peanuts though as the wage In the country they should be in is ridiculously low? Undercutting our own workers?
A born and bred worker here cant have any kind of quality of life working for £3/£4 an hour. The migrants will and employers will exploit them. How many do they sleep in a bedroom in these hmo's? 10/15?
Doesn't matter though does it as they've got one up on your own you fucking hypocrite.

It's just odd that you vent your spleen at foreigners coming to earn fuck all and not at the illegal employers willing to pay below the minimum wage and dodge work place regulations. The dude scrambling across the continent to try and earn more money isn't your enemy.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Seems like we've got another 49 to pay for now. Im sure the likes of sick boy,tony and ian would pay more tax to look after them?
Apparently they're from Iran,Iraq and Afghanistan. So why not stop at the first safe country? Is it because we've turned into a nation of liberal soft twats?
Should of sunk the boats.

Coventrian wants to drown asylum seekers?

 

[Grendel]

Nope, what you describe is exploitation/slavery which I too am against. For legitimate work however, we have something the called the minimum wage. The premise of a capitalist society is one in which the most suitable workers are selected for whatever salary an employer wishes to pay them. If Britain wants to benefit from that kind of society, then it must be prepared to accept the means through which this works. Otherwise, you should direct your anger towards employers - after all, it is they who have decided that they'd rather employ 'bloody foreigners'.

Or they easily support a low wage policy as they have a ready supply of cheap labour from abroad

 

[skybluetony176]

But they DO NOT say austerity is the cause of more people becoming homeless. Most recently, uncertainty bought about by denial over & delay of Brexit has created so much turmoil THAT could be blamed, you could blame relaxed border controls & poor implementation of EU &/or UK border laws from 1995 or 1980 if you choose. What you ARE choosing is to blame austerity...& I strongly suspect you're doing it simply because it was Tory led!


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This government. No. But then why would they. People of merit who understand the statistics and the reasoning, absolutely. Homelessness in the true sense of rough sleepers is the thin end of the wedge and the each time you go back a step the problem gets worse and worse and it all stems from the pinch on welfare. There’s people like Fransham and Dorling who have written extensively on the subject. Look them up and educate yourself.

Again. This is one single aspect we’re talking about here as a consequence of austerity.

 

[skybluetony176]

Why do I? Theres no rule that says you have to welcome workshy beggars from abroad.
Fuck em. Send them home.

You’ve got some serious anger issues. I’d go and talk to someone about that if I was you.

 

[Walsgrave]

Or they easily support a low wage policy as they have a ready supply of cheap labour from abroad

They might support a low wage policy, but realistically few employers would pay workers more if they had a choice not to.

The corollary of the accusation that foreigners are willing to work at piss poor rates is also basically an admission that some 'born and bred' guys have a crap attitude to work as they are not willing to work at such rates.

 

[Ian1779]

Seems like we've got another 49 to pay for now. Im sure the likes of sick boy,tony and ian would pay more tax to look after them?
Apparently they're from Iran,Iraq and Afghanistan. So why not stop at the first safe country? Is it because we've turned into a nation of liberal soft twats?
Should of sunk the boats.

Welcome to Tory Britain 2020...

 

[The coventrian]

Welcome to Tory Britain 2020...

Suck it up leftie loser.

 

[The coventrian]

You’ve got some serious anger issues. I’d go and talk to someone about that if I was you.

No. I just don't give a fuck about foreign migrants.
Looking after our own is more important to me.

 

[clint van damme]

No. I just don't give a fuck about foreign migrants.
Looking after our own is more important to me.

you must be furious about the way the vulnerable of this country are being treated then, but I bet you're not!!

 

[The coventrian]

you must be furious about the way the vulnerable of this country are being treated then, but I bet you're not!!

Not really no.
No fucker gave me anything. Everything I've got has been earned through hard graft.
You stick to your politics of envy the labour way.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No. I just don't give a fuck about foreign migrants.
Looking after our own is more important to me.

Probably wears the 2 Tone kit unironically

 

[The coventrian]

Probably wears the 2 Tone kit unironically

I don't think so.
Its crap.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don't think so.
Its crap.

Even so to be so proud of Coventry but to also hate foreign immigrants is a bit odd

 

[clint van damme]

Not really no.
No fucker gave me anything. Everything I've got has been earned through hard graft.
You stick to your politics of envy the labour way.

so you don't care about the 650,000 disabled people that have just had their benefits cut? You're a piece of work.
And politics of envy is bullshit, I've got everything I need, just got empathy as well.
But at least I've exposed your look after our own line as the bullshit I knew it was!!

 

[The coventrian]

so you don't care about the 650,000 disabled people that have just had their benefits cut? You're a piece of work.
And politics of envy is bullshit, I've got everything I need, just got empathy as well.
But at least I've exposed your look after our own line as the bullshit I knew it was!!

No Clint I don't. So what are you gonna do about it? Fuck all.
Nobody cares so get used to it.

 

[clint van damme]

No Clint I don't. So what are you gonna do about it? Fuck all.
Nobody cares so get used to it.

like I said, your bullshit exposed.
And as for the no one gives you anything bollocks, they gave you and your family and me and mine a healthcare system, sick pay, paid holidays, free education, But hey, lefties!!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No Clint I don't. So what are you gonna do about it? Fuck all.
Nobody cares so get used to it.

You must have been loads of fun yesterday

 

[skybluetony176]

No. I just don't give a fuck about foreign migrants.
Looking after our own is more important to me.

Everyone in this country is the descendant of a foreign immigrant, you yourself were saying earlier that you’re the son of a foreign immigrant. Your anger seems to be clouding your judgement.

 

[Covstu]

Everyone in this country is the descendant of a foreign immigrant, you yourself were saying earlier that you’re the son of a foreign immigrant. Your anger seems to be clouding your judgement.

Exactly, our city is made from immigrants from Ireland, scotland, India, w indies etc. All looking for work and a better life

 

[Ian1779]

Suck it up leftie loser.

I’m happy to be a leftie loser... you can carry on as the emboldened and intolerant embarrassment that you are.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What a wanker

 

[Astute]

I’m happy to be a leftie loser... you can carry on as the emboldened and intolerant embarrassment that you are.

I'm always a loser. If the left get in I lose. If the right get in I lose. If the middle get in we get Bliar :wideyed:

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'm always a loser. If the left get in I lose. If the right get in I lose. If the middle get in we get Bliar :wideyed:

If the right get in my classes get larger, my wages get lower and my classroom gets crumblier. Wait that's already happening