The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (249 Viewers)

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

Grendel

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lol, you’ve got it bad haven’t you? Not been a good day.

You will note that I didn’t say that the blockade on the Isle of Wight would be manned by you, that’s because I assumed you’d be more in the background, busily googling a way to pretend that it’s all above board and acceptable

Mart ;)

Im having a great day - how was the horse event? When’s the fox hunting thread starting?
 

Ring Of Steel

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Im having a great day - how was the horse event? When’s the fox hunting thread starting?
No, no events today, it was just the weekly lesson. As for fox hunting, who knows? You’ll have to wait and see, and when it happens I know who’ll be the first person to appear all excited to stalk me again :)
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Well I’ll go on record and say that if a dinghy washed up near me with half dead & starving people on board then they’d be staying at mine and having a bit of humanity shown to them without any qualms whatsoever.

...that’s of course assuming they got past the blockade & mines in and around the Isle of Wight set up by Dugdale, Coventrian & co
...like you went on record as having evidence of my wanting to gas Jews ?. You're all talk, pal.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Oh you’re back- I assumed you’d been out at a Jim Davidson show or popped down to Dover to take potshots at dinghies ;) I hope you’re having a pleasant evening.
Where's the Jewish remark evidence you squealed about then ? Is it on it's way ?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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lol, you’ve got it bad haven’t you? Not been a good day.

You will note that I didn’t say that the blockade on the Isle of Wight would be manned by you, that’s because I assumed you’d be more in the background, busily googling a way to pretend that it’s all above board and acceptable

Mart ;)
It's really, really funny how you've only started gobbing off on this thread since we officially left the E.U. What's the problem ? Can't take it ? As for the increasingly desperate comments you're now making in order to get a response you can use to fuel your anger, well you're going to be disappointed, pal. No one really cares.
So carry on flying the flag for revenge, anger, name calling and accusations. Your'e just a sad loser hiding behind his keyboard .
You won't be coming up with evidence of me calling for Jews to be gassed, because like most of your statements, its just made up crap, designed to create all round ill feeling and hatred, the very thing you and like to accuse those who voted Brexit of.
You've clearly got to feed off your mates on here because you are quite insecure. Perhaps you just need to grown up a bit.
We've left the E.U.
You clearly can't cope with not getting your way, even though its been coming for a very long time. You're a bit old for tantrums and raking up hatred so here, have some smiley faces:smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin:.
 

Ring Of Steel

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It's really, really funny how you've only started gobbing off on this thread since we officially left the E.U. What's the problem ? Can't take it ? As for the increasingly desperate comments you're now making in order to get a response you can use to fuel your anger, well you're going to be disappointed, pal. No one really cares.
So carry on flying the flag for revenge, anger, name calling and accusations. Your'e just a sad loser hiding behind his keyboard .
You won't be coming up with evidence of me calling for Jews to be gassed, because like most of your statements, its just made up crap, designed to create all round ill feeling and hatred, the very thing you and like to accuse those who voted Brexit of.
You've clearly got to feed off your mates on here because you are quite insecure. Perhaps you just need to grown up a bit.
We've left the E.U.
You clearly can't cope with not getting your way, even though its been coming for a very long time. You're a bit old for tantrums and raking up hatred so here, have some smiley faces:smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin:.
I have no intention of reading all that nonsense. Have a pleasant evening, what’s left of it, and I hope you wake up feeling good knowing another £50m has been ploughed into the NHS and another brilliant trade deal has been lined up. Now go find someone else to follow around who’s interested in your xenophobic, incoherent right wing claptrap ;)
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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I have no intention of reading all that nonsense. Have a pleasant evening, what’s left of it, and I hope you wake up feeling good knowing another £50m has been ploughed into the NHS and another brilliant trade deal has been lined up. Now go find someone else to follow around who’s interested in your xenophobic, incoherent right wing claptrap ;)
Nothing to do with left wing, right wing. You lost and you can't take it , hence the increasingly desperate bullshit. :joyful:
 
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Ring Of Steel

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Nothing to do with left wing, right wing. You lost and you can't take it , hence the desperate bullshit. Time to grow up.
Grow up and become like you? I think I’ll stay younger and silly and non racist and non xenophobic & not bang on all day about immigrants dying & obsessing over Terry Christian, thanks all the same ;) now night night, get some zzzs, you’ll feel better for a little snooze
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Grow up and become like you? I think I’ll stay younger and silly and non racist and non xenophobic & not bang on all day about immigrants dying & obsessing over Terry Christian, thanks all the same ;) now night night, get some zzzs, you’ll feel better for a little snooze
You just can't accept losing and it's eating away at you. Hence the overused references to racism etc. You're going over and over the same old stuff in the vain hope i will get angry but you're wasting your time.
You lost the referendum and you need to hit out at everyone because its finally happened. How sad you are. Face up to it , accept it and move on, otherwise you'll be spitting nails on this thread for the next few years.
 
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Nissan denied having made such a plan, however, and said its Sunderland plant would be under threat along with its European operations if the UK fails to ensure tariff-free access to the EU market. Following the UK’s departure from the EU on Friday, both sides are expected to set out their negotiating positions on Monday before trade talks next month.

A Nissan spokesman said on Monday: We deny such a contingency plan exists. We’ve modelled every possible ramification of Brexit and the fact remains that our entire business both in the UK and in Europe is not sustainable in the event of WTO [World Trade Organisation] tariffs.
 

Grendel

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clearly they will deny for obvious reasons but I do know there is some truth in it

I am sure you will be hoping it doesn’t though
 

shmmeee

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clearly they will deny for obvious reasons but I do know there is some truth in it

I am sure you will be hoping it doesn’t though

Do you reckon Brexit will be good or bad for the U.K. car industry?

Ten years time will we be making more or less cars here?
 

Grendel

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Do you reckon Brexit will be good or bad for the U.K. car industry?

Ten years time will we be making more or less cars here?

I would probably say more but less domestic build for reasons nothing to do with Brexit
 

SkyBlueDom26

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he's changed his tune, last time I heard him interviewed he said he was going to knock it on the head and concentrate on building his business back up. He's just wasting his time now surely?

Have to give him credit for being dedicated to the cause! Sadly its no longer relevant and he's making a tit of himself
 

Ring Of Steel

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Why do you reckon so many executives have been anti Brexit?
I guess because according to them they think it will be bad for business. Ultimately thats one dimension where nobody can know until it happens, the only thing you can go on is who has moved away/ is moving. To that end in 'my area', financial services, I do know that since the vote 29 financial services companies have already moved from UK to Dublin, and its predicted about 7,000 jobs will go from UK to Dublin. Dublin is highest in the 'relocation' league (Barclays alone put over £2bn into Dublin as opposed to London), followed by Luxembourg (25 companies) and Frankfurt (24). It was genuinely a field day for EU countries picking up UK offices of major companies, I've even seen 'hit lists' of companies that are targeted to get to move away from UK.

edit- and I chuckle when all the companies make announcements and immediately there is a huge chorus of "yes but its nothing to do with brexit"- brexit won, its going to happen, own it & accept the implications, and move on with doing something to avoid loads of people losing their jobs instead of pointing fingers- and that does not involve spending millions on coins, teatowels and blue passports.
 
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Grendel

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Why do you reckon so many executives have been anti Brexit?

Because a multi trading block makes their lives easier

Uk as a standalone customer is still hugely significant. It is far more profitable than most European markets and critically for funding of purchase if a company has its own in house finance company

So there is an inevitability that any all marques in the Far East will have some manufacturing here. Korea especially because of the unique trading arrangement - we are the biggest customer in Europe for them I think

So it will present opportunities

The Nissan leaked reports are really just ways of the automative industry applying pressure on governments in an “or else” scenario unless you agree a trade deal that has smooth flow of goods and services

The JLR business has moved into Europe as while in Europe they can lower cost base and benefit from currency equalisation at the uk expense
 

Grendel

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I guess because according to them they think it will be bad for business. Ultimately thats one dimension where nobody can know until it happens, the only thing you can go on is who has moved away/ is moving. To that end in 'my area', financial services, I do know that since the vote 29 financial services companies have already moved from UK to Dublin, and its predicted about 7,000 jobs will go from UK to Dublin. Dublin is highest in the 'relocation' league (Barclays alone put over £2bn into Dublin as opposed to London), followed by Luxembourg (25 companies) and Frankfurt (24). It was genuinely a field day for EU countries picking up UK offices of major companies, I've even seen 'hit lists' of companies that are targeted to get to move away from UK.

edit- and I chuckle when all the companies make announcements and immediately there is a huge chorus of "yes but its nothing to do with brexit"- brexit won, its going to happen, own it & accept the implications, and move on with doing something to avoid loads of people losing their jobs instead of pointing fingers- and that does not involve spending millions on coins, teatowels and blue passports.

When you say you know about the financial services it’s actually a report in the Irish Times from September last year and is an estimated impact analysis not a reality.
 

clint van damme

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I know who this guy is- whats his background? I wondered how he found the time to be parading up & down all day every day.
had a business dealing in rare coins apparently. Sold about 75% of his stock to help finance his protesting according to the interview I heard.
 

shmmeee

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Because a multi trading block makes their lives easier

Uk as a standalone customer is still hugely significant. It is far more profitable than most European markets and critically for funding of purchase if a company has its own in house finance company

So there is an inevitability that any all marques in the Far East will have some manufacturing here. Korea especially because of the unique trading arrangement - we are the biggest customer in Europe for them I think

So it will present opportunities

The Nissan leaked reports are really just ways of the automative industry applying pressure on governments in an “or else” scenario unless you agree a trade deal that has smooth flow of goods and services

The JLR business has moved into Europe as while in Europe they can lower cost base and benefit from currency equalisation at the uk expense

Appreciate the reply. Thanks.
 

Ring Of Steel

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When you say you know about the financial services it’s actually a report in the Irish Times from September last year and is an estimated impact analysis not a reality.
Its also a fact, as stated the 7,000 total jobs is a prediction and we could if you like go with the Financial Times which estimates 13,000 jobs. Either way, 29 companies already moved to Dublin alone- done deals, already happened. A reality.

Like I said, nobody knows the endgame and in the interests of impartiality I worked for a Chinese (manufacturing) company in the midlands, and the owners didn't give a damn about brexit- but as I said above, you voted for it- own it instead of pretending its all a big scare story & not reality- it is reality.
 

Grendel

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Appreciate the reply. Thanks.

The area of concern brexit will provide for JLR is Korea as it sells 15,000 or so cars a year there - that was always a red flag for the company as its highly profitable and part of the European FTA and has really strict import policies.

Again I think common sense will have to prevail as Korea automotive sales are big here. Admittedly though the Korean government is difficult
 

clint van damme

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wow, there is a committed guy. And I don't know if you know this but why was he so against brexit that he'd go that far?

not sure but he said in the interview Dom linked and the one I heard that it was the first time he's every really got involved in politics.
 

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