Next Season (RICOH) (11 Viewers)

[SkyBlueCRJ]

No chance I would be falling for that I’ve always said 5-10 years in Brum is my guess,I’ve not even opened that link totally pointless

5-10 years in Birmingham are you genuinely serious I nearly just spat out my tea. Delusional.

 

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[shmmeee]

We won’t last five years in Brum. Robins would go and we’d sink like a stone.

Hopefully all sides realise how important a ground in Cov is to securing Championship status should we make it.

 

[Nick]

No chance I would be falling for that I’ve always said 5-10 years in Brum is my guess,I’ve not even opened that link totally pointless

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[cc84cov]

5-10 years in Birmingham are you genuinely serious I nearly just spat out my tea. Delusional.

Was my original guess at start of season mate still can’t see us coming back anytime soon,would love to be wrong though

 

[cc84cov]

Thanks for proving my point.

Tbh I haven’t even read the thread properly I thought you meant I would fall for their story on us coming back sooner rather than later

 

[Nick]

Tbh I haven’t even read the thread properly I thought you meant I would fall for their story on us coming back sooner rather than later

No just for generally falling for any old shite.

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

Was my original guess at start of season mate still can’t see us coming back anytime soon,would love to be wrong though

We’ll cease to exist if we stayed in Birmingham for another 2 years let alone 5-10

 

[cc84cov]

No just for generally falling for any old shite.

Well my point of always saying it would be long term rather than short doesn’t seem to fit with falling for any old shite in this thread does it

 

[Tommo1993]

Nothing to see here

 

[RegTheDonk]

If Turner had directly quoted Fisher, for example "we are in negotiations for a return to the Ricoh" then that would be reason to get mildly excited.

Good old Telegraph. Can't give a simple report on the finances without putting in some bait. Surely they're getting enough clicks from the match coverage, we're top of the league FFS.

 

[mr_monkey]

If Turner had directly quoted Fisher, for example "we are in negotiations" then that would be reason to get mildly excited.

Good old Telegraph. Can't give a simple report on the finances without putting in some bait. Surely they're getting enough clicks from the match coverage, we're top of the league FFS.

Depends if wasps are playing or not

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Come on Pete you know the complaint has nothing to do with us not being at the Ricoh as Eastwood and Boddy have both said it wasn't, please don't mislead people

I’m not. It was about saving money or losing money. Not whether it meant we were playing away, these are all choices, not misleading anyone I hope

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

It's in both clubs short-term interest to sort terms for CCFC to return to the Ricoh.
In the medium term SISU may calculate that keeping the club away may distress Wasps to the point they go bust.
Its a dangerous gamble!

 

[letsallsingtogether]

We've probably lost 5-6k on average, so 22 x 6 x 10 = £1,320,000 over a season top end of that. I can’t imagine the rent was more than that at the Ricoh, though rents hardly the issue stopping us.

But the tickets were dearer at the Ricoh as were Season tickets so it will be over 1.5 mil easy.
As for the Rent no one is sure but at the supporters meeting it was believed to be over £500,000 plus the policing etc seems to be a lot more at Brum then we ever had at the Ricoh, we also have to pay for the road closers etc.
We do however get more pie money.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It's in both clubs short-term interest to sort terms for CCFC to return to the Ricoh.
In the medium term SISU may calculate that keeping the club away may distress Wasps to the point they go bust.
Its a dangerous gamble!

I genuinely don’t think anyone wanted to play outside of Coventry this season

 

[shmmeee]

But the tickets were dearer at the Ricoh as were Season tickets so it will be over 1.5 mil easy.
As for the Rent no one is sure but at the supporters meeting it was believed to be over £500,000 plus the policing etc seems to be a lot more at Brum then we ever had at the Ricoh, we also have to pay for the road closers etc.
We do however get more pie money.

True. Depends if we get a better cut or distribution of paid vs free (fewer school tickets? Fewer OAPs making it over?) but generally the point holds.

Point is it’s costing us far more than it’s costing Wasps, which is shit because they’re the ones who need to budge and right now they have a lever to pull to get us to do what they want.

If we are getting 10k home fans by the end of the season looking at 12-13k in the Championship does that change I wonder?

Still doesn’t get us a home in Cov though. Until some land is bought anything will be a stop gap.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

It's in both clubs short-term interest to sort terms for CCFC to return to the Ricoh.
In the medium term SISU may calculate that keeping the club away may distress Wasps to the point they go bust.
Its a dangerous gamble!

Apparently the RFU would not allow wasps to go bust and would bale them out, that is the consensus at Cov RFC games.
Cant see it myself but a lot are adamant that is the case.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

True. Depends if we get a better cut or distribution of paid vs free (fewer school tickets? Fewer OAPs making it over?) but generally the point holds.

Point is it’s costing us far more than it’s costing Wasps, which is shit because they’re the ones who need to budge and right now they have a lever to pull to get us to do what they want.

If we are getting 10k home fans by the end of the season looking at 12-13k in the Championship does that change I wonder?

Still doesn’t get us a home in Cov though. Until some land is bought anything will be a stop gap.

We only had 7000 City fans at the Sunderland game pretty poor even if it was on the tele.
Cant see anyone else bringing as many as they did to any of our remaining home games.
Might get a sellout for the final game if we have won the league, though as it is a game everyone will want to be at just like Wembley.

 

[mr_monkey]

I’m not. It was about saving money or losing money. Not whether it meant we were playing away, these are all choices, not misleading anyone I hope

But the choice to make the complaint hasn't affected anything at all. Even if the complaint wasnt made its fairly obvious we still wouldn't be playing at the ricoh this season, that's what I ment in my tired typing

The extra income wasps would get from us playing in the championship is a game changer and so personally I fully expect us to be playing the villa at the Ricoh in the league next season

 

[Grendel]

But the tickets were dearer at the Ricoh as were Season tickets so it will be over 1.5 mil easy.
As for the Rent no one is sure but at the supporters meeting it was believed to be over £500,000 plus the policing etc seems to be a lot more at Brum then we ever had at the Ricoh, we also have to pay for the road closers etc.
We do however get more pie money.

We averaged £8 per supporter at the Ricoh in the last season

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Thanks for proving my point.

Why the chip on ya shoulder? Anything for some point scoring from you

 

[ccfcway]

We don't need to be encouraging the trust to be telling Wasps to play hardball.

bloody hell, first rugby, then netball, now hardball

is there nothing they wont franchise

 

[Grendel]

Actually net of tax it seems to be £6.40

 

[Nick]

Why the chip on ya shoulder? Anything for some point scoring from you

It isn't, just pointing out how people fall for the click bait as you clearly have.

 

[ccfcway]

We’ll cease to exist if we stayed in Birmingham for another 2 years

do tell how you come to that conclusion ?

 

[Grendel]

do tell how you come to that conclusion ?

The accounts

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

It isn't, just pointing out how people fall for the click bait as you clearly have.

I haven’t fell for it, I can’t stand the bs from the telegraph but it’s come from fisher not the telegraph....
Doesn’t make it any more believable but still

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

But the choice to make the complaint hasn't affected anything at all. Even if the complaint wasnt made its fairly obvious we still wouldn't be playing at the ricoh this season, that's what I ment in my tired typing

The extra income wasps would get from us playing in the championship is a game changer and so personally I fully expect us to be playing the villa at the Ricoh in the league next season

Me too

 

[Corrado]

We’ll cease to exist if we stayed in Birmingham for another 2 years let alone 5-10

Nah we will in the prem by then and selling out every game...

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

do tell how you come to that conclusion ?

It’s not really that hard to figure out is it? We’re paying potentially up to £1M worth of rent and our gates are down by over half. Anyone with a shred of common sense can figure out that’s not sustainable for the long term.

 

[mark82]

Actually net of tax it seems to be £6.40

Lower than I thought, although its beyond debate that we'd have more through the gate at the Ricoh so would be better off. We just can't do it at any cost, it has to be sensible and sustainable (and have a better pitch!!).

 

[Grendel]

Lower than I thought, although its beyond debate that we'd have more through the gate at the Ricoh so would be better off. We just can't do it at any cost, it has to be sensible and sustainable (and have a better pitch!!).

Revenue is £2.5 m across 309,000 in the season which is around £8 gross and £6.40 net

 

[oldskyblue58]

Match receipts in accounts £2,545,705 (includes cup games though)
Average league attendance 12363

Roughly £8.95 per person and that is already net of VAT or tax. The accounts show all figures net of VAT

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Actually net of tax it seems to be £6.40

Bloody hell we must have given away more free tickets than wasps.

 

[ccfcway]

It’s not really that hard to figure out is it? We’re paying potentially up to £1M worth of rent and our gates are down by over half. Anyone with a shred of common sense can figure out that’s not sustainable for the long term.

suppose it depends on the definition of long term. I would say its longer than 2 years.