One thing I was going reply to that post with is the question about what the objective of education will be in the near term. Exam performance is ultimately what most classes are geared towards, but I think that for a while, it will be about learning for the enrichment of the mind (a great thing of course, but one that might not attract too much interest at the moment).
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Liquid Gold
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As I've said several times, I think the vast majority of cases are so very mild people will carry on doing what they're doing while feeling a little unwell and then continue to worry about the virus even after they've had it and become immune. We just need to get loads and loads of test kits out, when people are shown to have immunity they can go back to normality while those who are still vulnerable can distance.
Coronavirus: New graph shows people in their 20s are more asymptomatic and not being tested for COVID-19
MalcSB
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Sounds more like a degree course.
shmmeee
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I think like most school holidays the children of the rich will get cultural enrichment and the children of the poor (and working from home) will get Fortnite and YouTube.
shmmeee
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Still twice the contact hours of my ex housemates Geography degree.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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It's a big distinction isn't it - saying the grades they NEED, not necessarily the grades they DESERVE.
One bit of good news I picked out of the press conference that might not be widely publicised is that Patrick Vallence sounded confident we were close to a test which would tell if someone’s had coronavirus (not just if they’ve got it). Could be a game changer both medically and socially (as it could allow the release of those that have had it to operate normally in society). Fingers crossed
Grendel
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Nah my kids school gave them the grades they need for medicine and dentistry
dancers lance
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I agree it's an assumption, but as a seriously respected man of science, and I'm sure he has got his figures by working a model based on known facts (including all error bars) regarding the spread of this virus and the effects it has had on other countries who have acted in a different way to our own. It is a very rare thing for well respected scientists to just pull inflated figures out of thin air, he would be a laughing stock among his peers and his future papers would never be taken seriously again. He would be taking a huge risk, for no reason.
Sky Blue Pete
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It’s a no win ffs. My daughter will recover she’s worked hard and so won’t get the 9’s she wanted but hey ho
Give him a chance mate. Sure there will be dialogue with teachers/groups etc to decide the fairest way
shmmeee
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Would be an absolute game changer. Just been on a video chat with my parents and my daughter and was saying we’ve been self isolating but don’t actually know if we’ve had it. If we had they could hug their grandkids no problem.
David O'Day
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That should of happened a while ago as part of the contingency planning.
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Sky Blue Pete
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That’s interesting!!!
Liquid Gold
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Sincerely believe that a shit load of people will have had it and not had symptoms and now developed immunity.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Trouble is the people that aren't valuing his efforts are those that set his workload and pay him. And they seem to not give any value whatsoever to it.
I'd love that to happen but it never does. WWI and the soldiers went out as heroes with promises of housing and being looked after on their return. Came back in the dead of night and just left to rot. Still happening today. The healthcare for ex-services,both physical and mental, is a disgrace. This won't be any different. If anything they'll be looking at ways it can be used to line the pockets of the rich. Probably going to be quite a few lucrative final salary pensions no longer needing to be paid out soon.
Hopefully it'll make a lot of people realise that the massive discrepancy in wealth and pay are not justified in any way whatsoever and this is a society built from bottom up, not top down.
If it is going to change it's going to have to come from the ordinary man.
Tommo1993
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Fully agree with this
Sky Blue Pete
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Hope so yeah
dancers lance
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I agree, we need to learn some serious lessons from the past, we do however, live in a different age, we live with instant news, and social media, the average man can have far more influence than in the past, (it has become very hard for people to hide) but it will be up to all of us to put pressure on the powers to make this happen.
Just a few random thoughts on long term effects.
I do think this thing will have some effect on the social and economic fabric of the world. Unfortunately a lot of the stimulus from central banks and government will be QE type stuff and trickle up hill. Like after the global financial crisis you'll be able to look at the proportion of the worlds wealth owned by the top 0.1-1% and it will have risen significantly.
More jobs will have WFH options and this will be encouraged to help with resilience for future disasters. Decentralisation (in terms of supply chains, workers etc) will increase generally and savvy businesses will lean into it. Maybe globalisation will drop in the physical sense but increase in a digital sense. The curve will be bent for global CO2 emissions and there will be calls to keep some consumption at reduced levels to help with that but there will obviously also be an urge to get the economy flying again.
Politically I'm not sure how things will go, will we all pull together or be pushed further apart? Will leaders like Trump be seen as strong or populist idiots? I guess most likely people will be pushed further to their partisan opinions.
How bad? What are your symptoms like? Are you able to watch TV and such or having to sleep a lot? Get well soon.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Not seen many gifs....so you must feel rough...
dancers lance
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I hope so too, but I am fully aware that a certain group of people are going to make vast sums of money from this.
hill83
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Sweating like mad, dry cough, sore throat, extreme headache and stinging eyes (need to keep them closed).
Then, hour later, pretty much ok other than a cough. Piss about on my phone and watch tv. Then feel rough as fuck again. It comes in waves.
No loss of appetite. Bare in mind I don’t know if I’ve got ‘it’ though.
Weird
Liquid Gold
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It then makes the early lock down strategy make more sense. Get it out into the population, lock them down while they develop immunity then when they are let out there is more herd immunity for those that are vulnerable. It just means going through the difficult period that Italy are in now and we may be in shortly where there is an influx of vulnerable that have caught it in the initial wave. It would also explain why China's numbers are looking at a downward curve.
hill83
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Liquid Gold
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Sounds like you got it according to this thread. Also interestingly said at the end that her Husband didn't show symptoms...
What kind of period are we talking here? For all the news I haven't many descriptions of symptoms other than you'll have a cough and a fever. I mean that's winter for a lot of people.
Tommo1993
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Had a similar conversation a few times this/last week. I’ve never had lingering symptoms from the flu I had three weeks before, I think the weekend we played Sunderland. Like you say, I think most have had it. My breath is quite short in the mornings.
Or maybe coincidence. Either way, too late to isolate. Not that I even want to anyway.
dancers lance
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Thank fook for our NHS! Anyone who has ever called for it to be sold off or partially privatised needs to take a very long look at themselves.
hill83
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Started Saturday evening. Cough got worse through Sunday. In bed all day Monday.
I mentioned before, when the wave moves on and I feel ok it feels like I’m blagging it.
My symptoms don’t sound as bad as that twitter thread.
If i felt like she describes there's no way I'd be bothering to try and work from home, get some rest lass!
Philosoraptor
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NortonSkyBlue
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Branson is a figurehead and has been for a longtime. He is credited for much of what is not his and is criticized for much that is not his. He is the face of Virgin but is, and I repeat this for all, not CEO of virgin airlines and is not the owner, it is therefore not Branson.
It is 400 companies under the virgin banner founded by Branson and he is seen as a benevolent uncle wheeled out at appropriate times. He would have had no part in anything to do with Virgin Airlines decision making.