Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (236 Viewers)
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I don't that many people have been saying that. Rather it's about providing context using mortality and infection rates of past pandemics and seasonal flu. That's been lacking on the media.
Sky Blue Pete
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Up to 4 positive tests in coventry.
shmmeee
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Why do you think the Russian troll farms have also been churning out this “context” if it’s so useful?
I’m not sure that context is particularly helpful. It might sound level headed and smart to say “there are x thousand deaths per year from flu” while negating to mention infection rate, mortality rates, lack of vaccine , lack of immunity or that the current Coronavirus rates are only what they are due to the measures being put in place to slow the spread.
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Ring Of Steel
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I know this is not a PC view but the very term “self isolating” is getting pretty grating- it’s up there with “meditating” and “mindfulness”
BackRoomRummermill
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Latest purchase limits placed on shops in light of the Coronavirus due to panic buying
ASDA 2 hand sanitisers and a 4 pack of toilet roll
TESCO 1 hand sanitiser , 500g of rice and 4 pack of toilet rolls
WAITROSE 1 lobster , 6 quail eggs and 100g of Foie Gras
ALDI a Mig weirder . a pink sports bra , 2 trumpets and 1 wetsuit
ASDA 2 hand sanitisers and a 4 pack of toilet roll
TESCO 1 hand sanitiser , 500g of rice and 4 pack of toilet rolls
WAITROSE 1 lobster , 6 quail eggs and 100g of Foie Gras
ALDI a Mig weirder . a pink sports bra , 2 trumpets and 1 wetsuit
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I think if the context were presented that narrowly, I'd agree. It's unfortunate that any serious analysis and discussion of world affairs disappeared from the common media years ago. But do I believe at this time that SARS2 will have a worse outcome than swine flu, which on most accounts has the same mortality rate as SARS2, high inflection rate and no immunity or vaccine? No, I don't necessarily: I think we are still trying to understand the risk and impact.
Nor do I want to be too critical but providing statistics such as SARS2 has a 14% mortality rate (from a limited-base denominator) in the elderly without comparison to the fact that the flu rate mortality itself is nearly 7% only doesn't seem overly helpful.
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Nick
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I saw my life coach earlier today over an almond mocha choca blocker and Sebastian told me to self isolate.
David O'Day
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Seem to be doing strangely well here.
tisza
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Group still a "family" business.
PCH
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Up there with underlying health condition
David O'Day
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Mate I'd keep that quiet or Riyadh is going to be all this thread as we've dissed his hairy man crush
BornSlippySkyBlue
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How you doing today hill83?
SkyBlueCRJ
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Italy is still suffering a record number of deaths despite being on lockdown for over two weeks. Lombardy sounds like a warzone.
hill83
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Sorry mate I’ll pop round yours in a bit
SkyBlueDom26
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How are you feeling today Hill? Guessing its been a rough few days mate
mark82
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Someone probably reminded him he's got an election coming up.
hill83
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Tired mainly. Plus try to simultaneously avoid and look after a 4 year old who’s not at school while my wife works from home. Had enough of it.
Nick
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No point in an erection if it doesn't come up, to be fair.
Nick
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Get a blanket, pillow and go an drive somewhere for a sleep in the car!
Its not really ideal when people have families and think they might have it and everybody being crammed into the house
BornSlippySkyBlue
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This is the bit that worries me more than the damn virus, how the hell I’d look after the kids (without cross-infecting) with zero protective gear (as we were told not to bother) if I or them get ill.
Feels like they want families to self-isolate as a group while the virus ripples through the family before everyone comes out two weeks’ later immune and ready to save the rest of us.
Nick
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The issue with that is testing, how do people know it is fully out of their system in 2 weeks before everybody is allowed out again?
Do people become immune straight away? What happens if we stay in, our family gets it and we all break free in a couple of weeks and it all spreads again?
Sky Blue Harry H
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Get a blanket, pillow and go an drive somewhere for a sleep in the car!
Its not really ideal when people have families and think they might have it and everybody being crammed into the house
Hopefully better weather comes soon, and people (especially some old folk and kids) can make use of back gardens, outdoor space to stop themselves going stir crazy, as well as giving themselves some physical space.
BornSlippySkyBlue
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They don’t know the answers yet though to those questions I don’t think. There’s talk of an imminent test that will show antibodies and therefore whether you’ve previously been infected which would help. Let’s hope it is developed and widely available soon enough for it to be useful.
Nick
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Exactly.
Then what if (hopefully it doesn't happen) your son has it after you and your wife think you have had it. What if he gets a bit of a cough?
There's no way to know without testing every single person. Even then, if somebody tests negative they may catch it the day after.
What worries me is that these people on the TV aren't talking about days or weeks, on TV just now somebody was saying "this time next year we might be through the worst of it".
How does this happen in 2020?
BornSlippySkyBlue
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Could do with some of those drive-through testing stations that some countries are providing. At least you’d know for sure.
Sky Blue Harry H
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Was chatting with my wife about this. Suppose you have had it and are then 'clear' - if you then revert to a mentality of 'I've had it, so now I'm ok' you could still physically encounter the virus again (on hands etc,) and pass it on to someone who hasn't. Not sure I've got my head fully around when it will have fully been classified as 'over' - await NHS/govt advice I suppose) Apologies if that information is already out there.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Briefly from here:
1. We will be open for all of Easter under the same arrangements as the next few weeks.
2. Teachers are likely to be asked to provide grades for GCSE and A level students.
3. Due to the right to appeal being maintained we have been asked to estimate as high a grade as realistically possible.
I can’t describe how I feel at this moment but I have already bollocked students celebrating what is going on.
1. We will be open for all of Easter under the same arrangements as the next few weeks.
2. Teachers are likely to be asked to provide grades for GCSE and A level students.
3. Due to the right to appeal being maintained we have been asked to estimate as high a grade as realistically possible.
I can’t describe how I feel at this moment but I have already bollocked students celebrating what is going on.
NortonSkyBlue
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Or NOPM...
Nick
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I would have loved to have just got my estimated grades with some generosity with no exams and revision.
Will they be paying you overtime for working over Easter too?
BornSlippySkyBlue
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I think one take out from this whole thing is that we all need to stop being scummy gits and follow the basic personal hygiene protocols we are being shown regardless of whether we think we have it, have had it or are too cool to catch it. Meaning more hand washing, sneezing / coughing as taught etc. And if you think there’s any way you could still be infectious avoid high-risk environments (schools, care homes, hospital etc).
No guarantees, but common sense to help reduce further spread.