Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (140 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

Think we know where the burden lies .

This is a really interesting document from the Resolution Foundation on tax: https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/app/uploads/2019/11/The-shifting-shape-of-UK-tax.pdf

Has this chart in:

 

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[Sky Blue Pete]

Channel 4 just claimed 75 in critical care in London alone

 

[better days]

Are people really suggesting that the government can underreport or misreport causes of death ?!! I think a few need to go and have a beer or their daily exercise

ps having said that I read Germany weren’t testing for C-19 post mortem. We do though

There has been conjecture about why Germany's death rate was an outlier
This may explain it at least partially

 

[cc84cov]

Channel 4 just claimed 75 in critical care in London alone

Their gonna have it real bad next couple of weeks they have not locked down fast enough with the tube etc I get he’s trying to new things moving as much as possible etc but it needs to be total close

 

[Grendel]

Their gonna have it real bad next couple of weeks they have not locked down fast enough with the tube etc I get he’s trying to new things moving as much as possible etc but it needs to be total close

It can’t be totally closed as health workers and other critical workers need to work

 

[shmmeee]

New York is going to be screwed if London is anything to go by, though at least it’s quite easy to cut off and police entry if needed.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

New York is going to be screwed if London is anything to go by, though at least it’s quite easy to cut off and police entry if needed.

That’s what’ll happen like in I robot. Trump will close it off

 

[clint van damme]

Duterte is putting curfew violators in small cages in the street in the Philippines.

He's a mad bastard.

 

[RegTheDonk]

He pretty much accepted that it's open to abuse

Yes, it's a dilemma. To be honest, there are lots of people who are self employed, or small businesses' that "prefer" to deal cash only.

I have no real answer about the newly self-employed, hopefully there will be a formula to help them in the next couple of months. But it should be a relatively simple process for HMRC to look at how much profit the self employed or small businesses' have declared to date.

There may be a reason for allowing late submissions, but those that have already done the right thing - declared and paid their dues by the Jan deadline, and have 3 years of returns with HMRC, should be allowed to claim that 80% from now. This should help ensure their cash flow and not put additional pressure on banks or themselves by taking out loans.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Shock horror- more lies, incompetence and cover ups- this one is a real whopper

'Mix-up' over EU ventilator scheme

But yes yes, we know- the government are doing as good a job as possible in difficult circumstances, and we can only form judgement when it’s over.

 

[tisza]

Are people really suggesting that the government can underreport or misreport causes of death ?!! I think a few need to go and have a beer or their daily exercise

ps having said that I read Germany weren’t testing for C-19 post mortem. We do though

got a link for that Germany report please?

 

[Sick Boy]

Yeah but that’s at the mercy of other variables whereas deaths and critical cases isn’t. Also one data point does not a trend invalidate. Honestly think you’re on the down slope now.

The number of deaths are up too, they had not included Piemonte earlier.

 

[shmmeee]

The number of deaths are up too, they had not included Piemonte earlier.

Oh. Well still let’s hope it’s a blip. At worst the rate in increase has stalled.

 

[Otis]

I am all for the applause, but the pictures on the TV are showing thousands of people on the street, all very close together.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

I appreciate the NHS for all of their hard work during this time but I can do that without standing out on my doorstep, potentially breaching social distance rules and posting a status on Facebook stating I did it for likes.

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[stupot07]

I appreciate the NHS for all of their hard work during this time but I can do that without standing out on my doorstep, potentially breaching social distance rules and posting a status on Facebook stating I did it for likes.

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I can tell you for a fact NHS workers appreciated that gesture, and most people could quite easily participate without breaching social distancing.

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[cc84cov]

Does anyone know why Boris is still allowing flights into the country from some of the worst effected places around the world ?

 

[Otis]

Does anyone know why Boris is still allowing flights into the country from some of the worst effected places around the world ?

Are we? Which countries? Do you know?

 

[Walsgrave]

"The irony of us clapping NHS workers on the frontline and not giving them the protection to their their jobs properly is a scandal, and was preventable". Some scathing words from Richard Horton, Editor of the Lancet.

While flag waving gimps were pushing for Big Ben to bong on January 31st, we should have been preparing for the crises in the NHS that have been threatening to erupt and indeed now have emerged. Shows just where the priorities lay, and how thick most people are.

 

[Astute]

If its 12 weeks over here wonder how long it will be before those who are still working, even if from home, start complaining about the ones acting like they're on holiday while they still get 80% pay?

Not me. I want to work as much as I can so I can get out of the house as much as possible. I feel sorry for those stuck indoors for 23 hours every day for weeks/months on end.

 

[cc84cov]

Are we? Which countries? Do you know?

New York for one

 

[Johhny Blue]

New York for one

Is that a new country?

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

I appreciate the NHS for all of their hard work during this time but I can do that without standing out on my doorstep, potentially breaching social distance rules and posting a status on Facebook stating I did it for likes.

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There's always one that needs to be contrary. Shakes head.

 

[Magwitch]

Perhaps NHS workers should change their names to Windsor they’ll get tested much quicker.

 

[Otis]

New York for one

I didn't know that. Are we quarantining them when they come in?

 

[Otis]

Perhaps NHS workers should change their names to Windsor they’ll get tested much quicker.

Be fine if your surname is Davies.

 

[wingy]

COVID Symptom Tracker

 

[Flying Fokker]

Coronavirus Update (Live): 525,297 Cases and 23,701 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

USA more cases reported than any other country.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

This is a really interesting document from the Resolution Foundation on tax: https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/app/uploads/2019/11/The-shifting-shape-of-UK-tax.pdf

Has this chart in:

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Ironically, the tightening of ir35 has been put on hold due to covid. I appreciate that swathes of those working in the gig economy are simply exploited workers; but many others are very well renumerated non-payroll employees who have been happy not to take the protections and fringe benefits afforded to payroll workers, in exchange for salaries that typically equate to 2.5-3 times payroll, in part inflated by only paying 20 per cent tax on 'paye' and divis. I work alongside self-employed folk who typically pick up between 450 and 750 per day working in the public sector.

 

[djr8369]

People at work now getting hospitalised and still we’re staying open to try and keep some projects on target.


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[cc84cov]

I didn't know that. Are we quarantining them when they come in?

My pals in New York had to fly to Atlanta then back here so yeah we are still letting them In mate it’s madness

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Coronavirus Update (Live): 525,297 Cases and 23,701 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

USA more cases reported than any other country.

Fake news
China

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

"The irony of us clapping NHS workers on the frontline and not giving them the protection to their their jobs properly is a scandal, and was preventable". Some scathing words from Richard Horton, Editor of the Lancet.

While flag waving gimps were pushing for Big Ben to bong on January 31st, we should have been preparing for the crises in the NHS that have been threatening to erupt and indeed now have emerged. Shows just where the priorities lay, and how thick most people are.

The support from the public is great, but my son as a Doctor on the Covid19 ward still doesn't have protective equipment.
The utter incompetence of the authorities will lead to an increased loss of life amongst the medics and public.

 

[Saddlebrains]

How deadly is coronavirus? It's still far from clear


Decent read

 

[Walsgrave]

The support from the public is great, but my son as a Doctor on the Covid19 ward still doesn't have protective equipment.
The utter incompetence of the authorities will lead to an increased loss of life amongst the medics and public.

I think I speak on behalf of nearly everyone when I say that your son's a hero along with all other healthcare professionals. Unfortunately these false promises by the government every other day will continue to be met with a retweet/share from those who voted for them, without realising that barely any of these pledges have been achieved.

The obsession on the part of governmentalists that we can't challenge previous actions, nor suggest in a constructive manner how things can/should be done differently, is worrying. How do we learn from past mistakes if we don't own up to them? That's a shocking level of arrogance that no doubt the flag wavers will be quick to defend - indeed they're willing to give up their own wellbeing for it.