Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (88 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Grendel and the right in general don’t give a shit about anti-semitism. They just use it as a device to attack the ‘lefties’.

Im not on the right and racism certainly is t owned by a political faction

 

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[Skybluefaz]

20k less tests, 9k less people tested. We continue to succeed

 

[Skybluefaz]

Yeah I’m here, I just don’t sit on this all day cause I actually have a life

Must be pretty boring now jam jam boomerang is shut though ey?

 

[chiefdave]

20k less tests, 9k less people tested. We continue to succeed

63,667 people tested yesterday, way off the 100K a day target.

 

[skybluetony176]

Guess what, not all Jews are supportive of Israel’s actions and the country’s treat of Palestinians.
How anyone can claim a country’s actions are reflective of the belief of millions of people is actually quite strange.

The minute Jews invented Zionism other Jews invented anti Zionism. Most Orthodox Jews see creation of a Jewish state in the holy land as a direct threat to god.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

You did it to degree level? I doubt it but I did at Warwick.

I'll make it really simple for you as you seem to not grasp the basics of population growth and per capita calculations.

There are 5 people in a group and between them they have 2 apples each meaning they have 10 apples. 5 more people join but do not bring any new new apples. This means 10 people now have to share 10 apples between them meaning they now only have 1 apple each.

The population will continue to grow even without immigration as birth rates are larger than death rates. So you need keep making the wealth in a country larger.

So basically you need to keep growing the economy and making it larger. To make it fairer you need to look at the distribution of the countries wealth.

This is without taking into account inflation that will make the economy worth less in real terms each year.

Which only highlights how the way we work the economy (which I brought up somewhere else) is hugely flawed and people keep falling for it. Why do we use a mean average? Why not median or modal? Or just the overall figure? You can have a situation where there is less monetary value in an economy overall (i.e. negative growth/contraction) yet 99% of people, including any population growth, end up with more. So the sentence "Economic growth is needed or we all get poorer" is not actually true, even if you're only taking poorer in the very narrow sense of monetarily. It only becomes 'true' because of the use of a very limited equation in how we measure it as you pointed out.

Perhaps if they spent less time obsessing over economic growth and actually dealt with the root of the problem (population growth) they might actually make some inroads because the road they're working on is doomed to failure - the world and it's resources are not growing with us.

To be fair looking back at your original quote you did say

The issue is that GDP growth has become tired and rather outdated as a sole indicator of economic prosperity.

so we agree overall.

 

[wingy]

Which only highlights how the way we work the economy (which I brought up somewhere else) is hugely flawed and people keep falling for it. Why do we use a mean average? Why not median or modal? Or just the overall figure? You can have a situation where there is less monetary value in an economy overall (i.e. negative growth/contraction) yet 99% of people, including any population growth, end up with more. So the sentence "Economic growth is needed or we all get poorer" is not actually true, even if you're only taking poorer in the very narrow sense of monetarily. It only becomes 'true' because of the use of a very limited equation in how we measure it as you pointed out.

Perhaps if they spent less time obsessing over economic growth and actually dealt with the root of the problem (population growth) they might actually make some inroads because the road they're working on is doomed to failure - the world and it's resources are not growing with us.

To be fair looking back at your original quote you did say

so we agree overall.

We could survive with less than we currently take at the rate we take it .

 

[Ian1779]

63,667 people tested yesterday, way off the 100K a day target.

They emailed 50,000 people about getting a test so that 113K - top work!!

Priti is doing the numbers tomorrow so it should be smashed and then some...

 

[David O'Day]

Which only highlights how the way we work the economy (which I brought up somewhere else) is hugely flawed and people keep falling for it. Why do we use a mean average? Why not median or modal? Or just the overall figure? You can have a situation where there is less monetary value in an economy overall (i.e. negative growth/contraction) yet 99% of people, including any population growth, end up with more. So the sentence "Economic growth is needed or we all get poorer" is not actually true, even if you're only taking poorer in the very narrow sense of monetarily. It only becomes 'true' because of the use of a very limited equation in how we measure it as you pointed out.

Perhaps if they spent less time obsessing over economic growth and actually dealt with the root of the problem (population growth) they might actually make some inroads because the road they're working on is doomed to failure - the world and it's resources are not growing with us.

To be fair looking back at your original quote you did say

so we agree overall.

No what you are failing to grasp is you can not stop population growth and inflation.

So if the economy doesn't grow everyone will be poorer in real terms as population growth and interest don't stop.

Basically even of you have a perfectly equal society where everyone takes on the same about this amount will get smaller with out economic growth as the pot will be the same but there will be more people to share it with and the cost of goods will still increase with inflation.

Yes society is unfair but the economy growing yearly isn't the issue.

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[David O'Day]

63,667 people tested yesterday, way off the 100K a day target.

A target they have never hit as of yet

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[David O'Day]

Then 6 people vote for the Conservatives and 1 person has 9 apples, everyone else has to share 1 between them. :joyful:

The Matt Hancock version

If 5 people all had 2 apples each there would be 75 apples

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

They emailed 50,000 people about getting a test so that 113K - top work!!

Priti is doing the numbers tomorrow so it should be smashed and then some...

If it's like her previous effort we'll have tested more people than have ever lived, which is some going!

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

No what you are failing to grasp is you can not stop population growth and inflation.

So if the economy doesn't grow everyone will be poorer in real terms as population growth and interest don't stop.

Basically even of you have a perfectly equal society where everyone takes on the same about this amount will get smaller with out economic growth as the pot will be the same but there will be more people to share it with and the cost of goods will still increase with inflation.

Yes society is unfair but the economy growing yearly isn't the issue.

The economy growing isn't the issue but chasing a growing economy rather than dealing with the actual problem that means we need it is.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Deflection and whataboutery - always the same

Don't even start G that's you all over

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

It’s ok doing the test but they are failing to get the results back to you quickly enough, I had my test on Friday night at 6pm and I am still waiting for the results

 

[Ian1779]

It’s ok doing the test but they are failing to get the results back to you quickly enough, I had my test on Friday night at 6pm and I am still waiting for the results

Did they give you any indication of turn around time when you did it?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Did they give you any indication of turn around time when you did it?

48 hours

As my wife is a nurse she went to the hospital today to get hers done and they have said it will ready Monday morning latest, they also did hers a lot different than mine and she reckons mine will prove inconclusive.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Just realised it was Thursday night that I went losing track of time

 

[robbiekeane]

The Matt Hancock version

If 5 people all had 2 apples each there would be 75 apples

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Thought you might enjoy this. Made its way around our economics class

Two Cows Explain Economics Better Than Any Class

 

[The coventrian]

The lefties still worrying about the economy.
Ah bless. Why?.
You'll never win an election you fucking losers.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

How embarassing! . Maybe due to small matter of peoples happiness and security for their families?

 

[skybluetony176]

The lefties still worrying about the economy.
Ah bless. Why?.
You'll never win an election you fucking losers.

The irony being that when you lose your job you’re be glad of what’s left of the leftie policy’s and wishing there was more left from 10 years of austerity that failed to deliver anyway.

 

[ajsccfc]

You stupid lefties, thinking the economy affects everyone.

 

[shmmeee]

The lefties still worrying about the economy.
Ah bless. Why?.
You'll never win an election you fucking losers.

“Muuuum! Dads in his pants in the garden ranting about lefties stealing his trousers again!!”

 

[Ian1779]

The lefties still worrying about the economy.
Ah bless. Why?.
You'll never win an election you fucking losers.

Not when we can’t attract ‘floating’ voters like you.

Would you be happier if we were allowed to purge the immigrants and ban trannies?

Bet that will float your boat....

 

[The coventrian]

“Muuuum! Dads in his pants in the garden ranting about lefties stealing his trousers again!!”

Ok swampy

 

[The coventrian]

Not when we can’t attract ‘floating’ voters like you.

Would you be happier if we were allowed to purge the immigrants and ban trannies?

Bet that will float your boat....

We'll never know as your wank party will never get in. You idiots cant even agree on anything yourselves.

 

[The coventrian]

The irony being that when you lose your job you’re be glad of what’s left of the leftie policy’s and wishing there was more left from 10 years of austerity that failed to deliver anyway.

I wont lose my job.
Even worst case and I did,I could go your way and expect the state to wipe my arse for the rest of my life.

 

[Ian1779]

We'll never know as your wank party will never get in. You idiots cant even agree on anything yourselves.

Its OK - Nick Griffin is back on Twitter.... that should soothe your angst.

 

[The coventrian]

Its OK - Nick Griffin is back on Twitter.... that should soothe your angst.

Whys that then?
I'm not a rabid leftie like you so I must be a bnp voter? Classic leftie. Just keep it up.

 

[wingy]

According to Grant Schapps this morning the reason border's were not closed was because it would prevent Brit's returning home ..
That was the view of the chief medical officer .
Mmm.
Maybe if the FO had developed a policy that advised against frivolous travel abroad there wouldn't have been that need?

 

[clint van damme]

I wont lose my job.
Even worst case and I did,I could go your way and expect the state to wipe my arse for the rest of my life.

You're sitting at home now living off the state while some of us are grafting!!

 

[skybluetony176]

I wont lose my job.
Even worst case and I did,I could go your way and expect the state to wipe my arse for the rest of my life.

Aside from my education, using the NHS and when the time comes drawing my pension I’ve never taken a penny from the state. Don’t worry though, when you need the state to wipe your arse in the very near future I won’t begrudge paying for you to have the privilege.

 

[skybluetony176]

You're sitting at home now living off the state while some of us are grafting!!

Good point. Don’t worry Covtarian. I’ll help you pay your mortgage. You’re welcome.

 

[Ian1779]

Whys that then?
I'm not a rabid leftie like you so I must be a bnp voter? Classic leftie. Just keep it up.

You want to shoot migrants in boats....

You don’t even know what a rabid leftie is... you don’t even know why you hate lefties (even though you benefit from their best creations) you’re just programmed to and you lap it up...

You probably are really excited to get your commemorative Daily Mail VE Day coin (despite it coming from a paper that actively supported Hitler and the Nazis) because that’s what real patriots do!