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Astute

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So everyone here slating others for saying they had symptoms from xmas onwards can eat humble pie then surely?

Adamant my lad had it end of Jan, a the hallmarks and symptoms, doctors asked 'have you been to china'. When no was the reply it was left as an upper respiratory infection but they dont know what.

Preparing to be shot down here, but what if all this is the second wave everyones scared of? Stranger things have happened at sea
Have had it in the back of my mind that I had it then passed it onto my wife just before Xmas. Spent days in bed which is unusual for myself. But the children had nothing. Have never had time off work for being ill. Won't know until they come out with a test that could say.
 

Ian1779

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The more people die - the more statistically likely that one of us, our kids or our parents get it and get it bad.
 

Astute

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50000 reasons tell me good is not the right way to describe it.

Encouraging, welcoming, a relief - absolutely.
And the meaning of the words encouraging, welcoming and relief is.........
 

pipkin73

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The level off lockdown here has been very hard on people.
Went out last night for the first time, as allowed out from 8-11 now for 1 hours exercise.
Spoke to a few people i know and found out 5 people have commited suicide out here (just in our province).
So that's 3 deaths from COVID 19 and 5 suicides.

Problem was the country was just not ready financily and most people have still not received a penny in help yet,
people being told now that maybe May 10th or June before payouts received by most.

One of the women i spoke to has lost so much weight and was skin and bones, said she has a bowl of soup a day as that's all she can afford.

So yes, going in to a HARD lockdown has helped reduce/eliminate the growth but at a very high mental cost to people.
We are also being told that as we have had so few cases that we are likely to be hit again after lockdown as we have a very low immunity to it.

Long term the UK's way might just prove to have been the correct one.
 

clint van damme

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The level off lockdown here has been very hard on people.
Went out last night for the first time, as allowed out from 8-11 now for 1 hours exercise.
Spoke to a few people i know and found out 5 people have commited suicide out here (just in our province).
So that's 3 deaths from COVID 19 and 5 suicides.

Problem was the country was just not ready financily and most people have still not received a penny in help yet,
people being told now that maybe May 10th or June before payouts received by most.

One of the women i spoke to has lost so much weight and was skin and bones, said she has a bowl of soup a day as that's all she can afford.

So yes, going in to a HARD lockdown has helped reduce/eliminate the growth but at a very high mental cost to people.
We are also being told that as we have had so few cases that we are likely to be hit again after lockdown as we have a very low immunity to it.

Long term the UK's way might just prove to have been the correct one.

not good reading mate but good to hear from you.
Stay safe.
 

clint van damme

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Thanks mate, got my head back together now after my little breakdown.

aren't there plans to use the Canaries as a bit of a guinea pig to test opening back up resorts?
I read they are thinking of opening them up to domestic tourists to start with?
 

ajsccfc

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So everyone here slating others for saying they had symptoms from xmas onwards can eat humble pie then surely?

Adamant my lad had it end of Jan, a the hallmarks and symptoms, doctors asked 'have you been to china'. When no was the reply it was left as an upper respiratory infection but they dont know what.

Preparing to be shot down here, but what if all this is the second wave everyones scared of? Stranger things have happened at sea

While I'm happy to concede it's likely wishful thinking on my part, my household all spent a few weeks from February in various stages of woe that covered all the symptoms and while not debilitating, it was something none of us had had before so it's coincidental at the very least.
 

pipkin73

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aren't there plans to use the Canaries as a bit of a guinea pig to test opening back up resorts?
I read they are thinking of opening them up to domestic tourists to start with?
It's a 5 stage plan over the next 2 months. Opening to inter island flights and mainland Spain flights first.
Saying August, September before flights from tourists but that could be brought forward if we keep our cases so low.
The local gouvernment have asked for it as we need to open again asap to get people working again but Madrid are not sure if they will allow it earlier.
 

Astute

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The level off lockdown here has been very hard on people.
Went out last night for the first time, as allowed out from 8-11 now for 1 hours exercise.
Spoke to a few people i know and found out 5 people have commited suicide out here (just in our province).
So that's 3 deaths from COVID 19 and 5 suicides.

Problem was the country was just not ready financily and most people have still not received a penny in help yet,
people being told now that maybe May 10th or June before payouts received by most.

One of the women i spoke to has lost so much weight and was skin and bones, said she has a bowl of soup a day as that's all she can afford.

So yes, going in to a HARD lockdown has helped reduce/eliminate the growth but at a very high mental cost to people.
We are also being told that as we have had so few cases that we are likely to be hit again after lockdown as we have a very low immunity to it.

Long term the UK's way might just prove to have been the correct one.
I said exactly the same when we delayed lockdown whilst sorting out financial matters for those who would need help. It is a double edged sword.

Was reading earlier that people suffering issues mentally is up to nearly 50%. More severe issues is about at 20%. And we prepared better than most before 'lockdown' which has also been much less severe.
 

skybluetony176

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You know that's not what he's saying. Stop being a dick.
I know it's the weekends numbers but the overall trend is going the right way. It's encouraging signs.

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It’s like that scene from the office though where David Brent is being promoted at the expense of everyone else being made redundant and he can’t understand why they’re not happy for him.
It’s crass to suggest that it’s “good news” considering the backdrop.
 

pipkin73

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I said exactly the same when we delayed lockdown whilst sorting out financial matters for those who would need help. It is a double edged sword.

Was reading earlier that people suffering issues mentally is up to nearly 50%. More severe issues is about at 20%. And we prepared better than most before 'lockdown' which has also been much less severe.
Deffo mate, if we had known we were in for such a long and hard lockdown then people could have tried to get some money and food together before hand.
As it was we were told a few days before that we would lockdown and then they brought it forward 24 hours with a couple of hours notice to stop people from moving to other areas.
 

covmark

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It’s like that scene from the office though where David Brent is being promoted at the expense of everyone else being made redundant and he can’t understand why they’re not happy for him.
It’s crass to suggest that it’s “good news” considering the backdrop.
No one is saying that it's good news that people are dying.



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chiefdave

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Using the latest excess death data to model through to the current date it has us unfortunately going past. Hopefully this will turn out to be wrong but so far every time the ONS has released data the figure has been updated to a higher number as they are trying to keep the modelled numbers as low as possible to avoid accusations of scaremongering.

 

Grendel

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No one is saying that it's good news that people are dying.



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Yesterday he was sniggering with his mate David on here about people losing jobs at JLR
 

Grendel

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Bullshit.
Stick to your shit, would you rather live in Italy, joke posts.

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I have him on ignore most of the time. He’s a grade A arsehole who’d toss himself off if the death rate went up as long as he got some likes on here
 

Astute

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Deffo mate, if we had known we were in for such a long and hard lockdown then people could have tried to get some money and food together before hand.
As it was we were told a few days before that we would lockdown and then they brought it forward 24 hours with a couple of hours notice to stop people from moving to other areas.
Saw myself how quickly it happened elsewhere. My sister has a pub in France. She found out she had to close the night before. A customer came in and told her it had been announced.

Too many people ignore the mental health issues that have been caused by the virus. Too many people are starting to think death is the easy way out. They had nothing before the outbreak and have even less now.
 

pipkin73

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Saw myself how quickly it happened elsewhere. My sister has a pub in France. She found out she had to close the night before. A customer came in and told her it had been announced.

Too many people ignore the mental health issues that have been caused by the virus. Too many people are starting to think death is the easy way out. They had nothing before the outbreak and have even less now.
i knew one of them, she hung herself.
Not even sure it was about having nothing as she was not working (i think she had a UK pension). In her case i think it was the isolation as i think she lived by herself (i heard all 5 did).
One worked in a restaurant and slit his throat don't know about the others.
The mental side is not just money for some, it's 6-7 weeks without speaking to or even seeing anyone and getting no info about when it will end. It's only yesterday that we have been allowed to leave our (in most cases out here, tiny apartments).
 

covmark

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He suggested it was good news. His words not mine.
You know that isn't what he meant. Dom talks some bollocks and his love in with Johnson is fucking cringeworthy. But he obviously doesn't think it's good people are dying.

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covmark

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i knew one of them, she hung herself.
Not even sure it was about having nothing as she was not working (i think she had a UK pension). In her case i think it was the isolation as i think she lived by herself (i heard all 5 did).
One worked in a restaurant and slit his throat don't know about the others.
The mental side is not just money for some, it's 6-7 weeks without speaking to or even seeing anyone and getting no info about when it will end. It's only yesterday that we have been allowed to leave our (in most cases out here, tiny apartments).
Really sorry to hear this mate. I was pissed off that my Tenerife holiday had been cancelled. Everything that's happened since, has made me realise that I'm fucking lucky, and it could be far worse.
All the best to you Pipkin.

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