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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Out of interest do you blame the government for everything. Labour or Conservative.
People should take responsibility for their own actions and decisions and be able to make commonsense decisions without looking to the government every day for direction.

To an extent yes, but for many what they consider common sense may not be an option open to them.

What if you think your workplace is unsafe and it's common sense to stay away, but they are insisting you have to come back into work or get fired? Some people don't have the option to just say "I'll just leave" because they can't afford to without another job lined up. And those may be hard to come by in the coming months so they're stuck.

 

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[bawtryneal]

The example you quote is not the governments fault but your employer.

 

[shmmeee]

The example you quote is not the governments fault but your employer.

The government sets the playing field and the rules that people and businesses operate by. We don’t live by a code of honour we live by a rule of law. If it’s legal it’s OK ultimately.

 

[BackRoomRummermill]

Out of interest do you blame the government for everything. Labour or Conservative.
People should take responsibility for their own actions and decisions and be able to make commonsense decisions without looking to the government every day for direction.

I am not blaming them but while kids leave school not being able to read , write or count at 18 or whatever it is now they have to cover themselves from pure stupidity , which will unfortunately by next Tuesday manifest itself in rising numbers of cases

 

[Brylowes]

The example you quote is not the governments fault but your employer.

Even if that were true ‘it still falls on the individual person to make a decision
That doesn’t have common sense at its core.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

The example you quote is not the governments fault but your employer.

Who sets the laws about what employers can and can't do? Who has systematically removed/undermined the ability of trade unions and individuals to protect themselves from unscrupulous employers? Who has allowed there to be the inequality in society that makes it such that there is such a discrepancy in power that leaves people with such little option? And this is not just the Tories.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Norwich against Premier League relegation if Championship season stops

###ing embarrassing, but hardly surprising. Norwich not wanting relegation from PL if Championship is not completed. Every club screaming foul if any scenario doesn't suit them. That said, so will I be if they don't promote us. Just glad that it's Leeds who are top of The Championship, and not a club with the stature of e.g. Bournemouth, Burton etc (no disrespect). Will make it a lot more diificult for promotion to be voided imho.

 

[kg82]

Norwich against Premier League relegation if Championship season stops

###ing embarrassing, but hardly surprising. Norwich not wanting relegation from PL if Championship is not completed. Every club screaming foul if any scenario doesn't suit them. That said, so will I be if they don't promote us. Just glad that it's Leeds who are top of The Championship, and not a club with the stature of e.g. Bournemouth, Burton etc (no disrespect). Will make it a lot more diificult for promotion to be voided imho.

If we aren’t promoted we have every right to call foul. That said, I can’t see it happening, pretty much every logical scenario has us promoted. It sounds very doubtful they’ll null and void the season, and the halfway point thing is the opinion of absolute plebs! We’ll be fine.

 

[RegTheDonk]

Norwich against Premier League relegation if Championship season stops

###ing embarrassing, but hardly surprising. Norwich not wanting relegation from PL if Championship is not completed. Every club screaming foul if any scenario doesn't suit them. That said, so will I be if they don't promote us. Just glad that it's Leeds who are top of The Championship, and not a club with the stature of e.g. Bournemouth, Burton etc (no disrespect). Will make it a lot more diificult for promotion to be voided imho.

"What we could not accept is a situation where we play all our games and get relegated, but the Championship can't play, and they automatically promote some teams who haven't finished the season," Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber told Sky Sports.

You're right, looking for any excuse. First it's void the season entirely. Then it's we'll run with more teams, just no relegation. Then it's no neutral grounds...er unless they take relegation off the table. Now it's this lame excuse.

Tell you what then Mr Webber, make it the same as the EFL - don't play your games and get relegated anyway...but hand Sky back some of the TV money.

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

The above is the lamest yet. What does it matter to them what happens in the league below. Your team finished in the bottom 3 and so would be relegated who ever is promoted.

 

[chiefdave]

"What we could not accept is a situation where we play all our games and get relegated, but the Championship can't play, and they automatically promote some teams who haven't finished the season," Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber told Sky Sports.

Just looking to save themselves but its way too obvious. If you're relegated thats it, what method the league below choose to decide who comes up is irrelevant.

 

[Warwickhunt]

Couldnt have put it better myself

I personally dont need to told what to do! I am not going out and keep social distancing right through this year at least:joyful:

 

[Warwickhunt]

Out of interest do you blame the government for everything. Labour or Conservative.
People should take responsibility for their own actions and decisions and be able to make commonsense decisions without looking to the government every day for direction.

totally agree!

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

Just looking to save themselves but its way too obvious. If you're relegated thats it, what method the league below choose to decide who comes up is irrelevant.

Of course you are right about Norwich's self interest. Everyone seems so confident on here that we will be named Champions and promoted if as looks likely from all the soundbites, that the season is cancelled. This confidence makes me slightly uncomfortable though, and a swift look through other League 1 message boards doesn't indicate the same belief in that outcome that we have. I just hope SISU are not being equally complacent, and are actively begging/ bullying and cajoling others to do what is necessary to get our way. If there is 'any' chance of a null and void season I would still rather we push to complete it, rather than chance the vagaries of others self interest.

 

[chiefdave]

This confidence makes me slightly uncomfortable though, and a swift look through other League 1 message boards doesn't indicate the same belief in that outcome that we have.

IMO voiding the season is where the threat of legal action becomes more likely. Not necessarily from the clubs themselves but from everyone else. Everything has being sold based on competitive games as part of league competition. If you void that you open yourself up to the possibility of everyone coming for their money back, TV, sponsers, advertisers, even fans who have purchased tickets.

For example you only need a handful of fans at each club to demand their season ticket money back to make it worthwhile a lawyer picking up the case. Wouldn't even need to charge, just take a small percentage of the money coming back. Not going to be a good look for clubs and the league to be going to battle with fans. Look how people reacted when it was one less game on their season ticket, no way there wouldn't be people demanding a refund.

So on the basis that voiding opens a can of worms they have to somehow finish the competition. Hard to thing of a method they could use to do that where we don't become champions.

That said I've supported us long enough that it will come as no surprise if we somehow get screwed over.

 

[better days]

It seems that the bottom 6 clubs in particular have shifted their arguments to safety of the players
Am I being cynical here or is it a desperate attempt to delay the start of resumption of games so long that the season has to be abandoned?
It's not a good look when supermarket workers, drivers, security staff, factory workers and so on are all working and yet Premier League football players think they are too important to take the risk

 

[Philosoraptor]

It seems that the bottom 6 clubs in particular have shifted their arguments to safety of the players
Am I being cynical here or is it a desperate attempt to delay the start of resumption of games so long that the season has to be abandoned?
It's not a good look when supermarket workers, drivers, security staff, factory workers and so on are all working and yet Premier League football players think they are too important to take the risk

It's all Machiavellian stuff I suspect. There is no difference in politics or sport.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I don’t know why the broadcasters are giving the people from Norwich Brighton etc any air time, if the bottom six want to block things from starting then fine relegate the lot of them and give them no parachute payments.

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

I don’t know why the broadcasters are giving the people from Norwich Brighton etc any air time, if the bottom six want to block things from starting then fine relegate the lot of them and give them no parachute payments.

I listened to Chris Sutton on this subject and I thought his take on it was great.I do wish the broadcasters would put pressure on the E P L regarding the Newcastle take over.How can they sanction a deal led by a guy with blood on his hands?

 

[fernandopartridge]

The only problem with Boris stay alert policy is it assumes you have a brain and common sense.
If you listen to the left wing tossers at the BBC you would assume that 95% of people are thick, which of course, may be true.

Why would anybody make such an assumption?

 

[fernandopartridge]

I listened to Chris Sutton on this subject and I thought his take on it was great.I do wish the broadcasters would put pressure on the E P L regarding the Newcastle take over.How can they sanction a deal led by a guy with blood on his hands?

The horse bolted on that a number of years ago. Abramovich didn't get his wealth through working his way up from a market stall. The Arabs at Man City aren't bastions of altruism either.

 

[Grendel]

The horse bolted on that a number of years ago. Abramovich didn't get his wealth through working his way up from a market stall. The Arabs at Man City aren't bastions of altruism either.

You only have to look at Shinwirata a brutal dictator I think in exile at the time he bought Man City - there was some quote at the time “he’s a good guy to play golf with”

 

[Frank Sidebottom]

19 Premier League Clubs Vote to Relegate Aston Villa

I think they should revert to this option.
Aston Villa to be double relegated

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

Nothing to do with this but Premier League fair pay to Harry Kane for remembering the club that gave him his start in the game.