Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (156 Viewers)

[Grendel]

So you are saying that the the 20+ Conservative MPs (and counting) & people like Julie Hartley Brewer are all 'lefties'? Interesting take.

Clearly I am not. You talk about this as if it’s new and exciting. It’s neither - don’t worry he will go then everyone is happy then he does the full Mandleson and makes a return or four

I suspect this actually is a game to see how badly the government cab behave and the impact on its popularity - if Johnson still has only a small negative rating it’s actually very encouraging for him isn’t it?

 

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[Ring Of Steel]

The left wing media continue to make a story out of nothing


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Yes, clearly a left wing newspaper looking for vindication

 

[hill83]

Nicholas Clegg liked the word sorry

 

[Grendel]

Yes, clearly a left wing newspaper looking for vindication

The majority of the as you call it right wi g press and certainly the Murdoch wing have always been opposed to Johnson. The times and the MOS were staunch remainers and even the Mail has never supporting Cummings

 

[Skybluefaz]

Clearly I am not. You talk about this as if it’s new and exciting. It’s neither - don’t worry he will go then everyone is happy then he does the full Mandleson and makes a return or four

I suspect this actually is a game to see how badly the government cab behave and the impact on its popularity - if Johnson still has only a small negative rating it’s actually very encouraging for him isn’t it?

Pissing about in the middle of a pandemic for shits and giggles. That's a stretch even for you.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Pissing about in the middle of a pandemic for shits and giggles. That's a stretch even for you.

Yeah I was a bit taken aback by that one even from this guy- 60k+ dead, worst death rate on the planet and its "actually a game" just to see what happens.

 

[Grendel]

Pissing about in the middle of a pandemic for shits and giggles. That's a stretch even for you.

Don’t be naive - every party wants power and will exploit every situation. That is why the Labour Party is appalled at Cummings - not a member of Parliament - and far less so of it’s. own two members who have broken these rules

 

[Nick]

So the bloke drove miles away and people are losing their shit but never had an issue with paramedics mingling on a bridge with the public in their hundreds?

I don't get it.

 

[Grendel]

Yeah I was a bit taken aback by that one even from this guy- 60k+ dead, worst death rate on the planet and its "actually a game" just to see what happens.

There is no analysis in deaths in equal measurement - the statistical analysis will have to take equal measures - obesity ratios, age of population, diabetes elements to really say whose “done the worst” again it’s childlike tub thumping populism - I’ve seen your inane ratings on twitter and your absurd links to very bogus “facts” to make a point. This really is a game to you and you love every minute of it

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Nick Ferrari’s LBC phone-in gave me a chuckle this morning, one of the calls went something like this:



Ranting Caller: “The account Cummings gave yesterday was a pack of lies, we know that because he’s already a PROVEN LIAR!”

NF: “OK, how do we know that?”

RC: “Because he put the £350m on the side of the bus of course!”

NF: “Ok, respectfully, may I ask whether you voted remain in the referendum?”

RC: “well… yes, I did”

NF: “And again respectfully, do you think that your position on Brexit might be influencing your judgement on this matter?”

RC: “errrr… yes”



Laugh? I nearly choked on my scrambled eggs and smoked salmon.

 

[Grendel]

So the bloke drove miles away and people are losing their shit but never had an issue with paramedics mingling on a bridge with the public in their hundreds?

I don't get it.

The amazing think is they think social distancing is fake news and not required when it suits

 

[Saddlebrains]

So, the WHO now stating its looking increasingly unlikely a second wave will take place.

Even they now seem to be coming round to the idea the rona is almost beaten. Good news

 

[ajsccfc]

So the bloke drove miles away and people are losing their shit but never had an issue with paramedics mingling on a bridge with the public in their hundreds?

I don't get it.

Everything I saw about that was criticising the stupidity of it also, but this would get more attention because the people on the bridge aren't also the ones deciding on these restrictions in the first place

 

[Grendel]

Nick Ferrari’s LBC phone-in gave me a chuckle this morning, one of the calls went something like this:



Ranting Caller: “The account Cummings gave yesterday was a pack of lies, we know that because he’s already a PROVEN LIAR!”

NF: “OK, how do we know that?”

RC: “Because he put the £350m on the side of the bus of course!”

NF: “Ok, respectfully, may I ask whether you voted remain in the referendum?”

RC: “well… yes, I did”

NF: “And again respectfully, do you think that your position on Brexit might be influencing your judgement on this matter?”

RC: “errrr… yes”



Laugh? I nearly choked on my scrambled eggs and smoked salmon.

The hypocrisy is staggering - soon we will have teachers terrified of the infection rate outraged they may have to to go and teach and instead board a crowded plane to a Greece

 

[hill83]

The hypocrisy is staggering - soon we will have teachers terrified of the infection rate outraged they may have to to go and teach and instead board a crowded plane to a Greece

Yeah he did himself over with that one to be fair.

 

[chiefdave]

So, the WHO now stating its looking increasingly unlikely a second wave will take place.

Even they now seem to be coming round to the idea the rona is almost beaten. Good news

Great news.

Read some papers on coronaviruses in general, not Covid-19 specifically, that say they tend to die out in spring and come back in the winter so that will be the next concern if we're clear of any second wave.

Hopefully by then even if we have no vaccine we at least have a treatment that means its not more of a concern than things like flu.

 

[PVA]

It's utterly absurd that we have cabinet ministers actually telling the nation that a 60 mile round trip to test your eyesight is normal and acceptable. Even though it's against the law.

The sheer contempt they hold for us is ludicrous. Yet their loyal followers can't see it.

 

[TomRad85]

They genuinely think you are all stupid

Indeed they do...

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[Grendel]

Yeah he did himself over with that one to be fair.

I did pos earlier in this thread schools should back in August not June as it would give more time but transition years should have some prep

He and Ian both said it would be giving up our holiday. One of my best mates is a head of department - he works hard for sure but the whole ethos is based on unionised projection and 1980 thinking

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Indeed they do...

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Whoooosh

 

[shmmeee]

So the bloke drove miles away and people are losing their shit but never had an issue with paramedics mingling on a bridge with the public in their hundreds?

I don't get it.

1) Loads of people had an issue with the bridge people. You keep getting told this and ignoring it.

2) The people on the bridge aren’t part of the government setting the rules who hounded out a scientific advisor for doing less not so long ago

 

[fernandopartridge]

So the bloke drove miles away and people are losing their shit but never had an issue with paramedics mingling on a bridge with the public in their hundreds?

I don't get it.

Yes, because you're being obtuse

 

[Grendel]

Indeed. It's utterly absurd that we have cabinet ministers actually telling the nation that a 60 mile round trip to test your eyesight is normal and acceptable. Even though it's against the law.

The sheer contempt they hold for us is ludicrous. Yet their loyal followers can't see it.

Have you demanded Steven Kinnock resign for going to his self entitled old mans birthday party - can you show me a link to your outrage?

 

[shmmeee]

Indeed they do...

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Party of Strong and Stable doesn’t get to whine about other party’s message discipline.

Also feedback to constituents not the same as party messaging. But you knew that.

 

[PVA]

The hypocrisy is staggering - soon we will have teachers terrified of the infection rate outraged they may have to to go and teach and instead board a crowded plane to a Greece

I don't think you know what the word hypocrisy means.

 

[chiefdave]

IMO a large part of the issue, and why this is remaining a story, is the response when Cummings was found out. Rather than just admit he was wrong and apologise the entire Conservative party has doubled down to try and cover for him.

We've had the likes of Shapps and Gove sent out to cover for him and a constantly changing story riddled with inconsistencies. And thats before you consider how it stacks up against the account Wakefield has given multiple times.

Not to mention in trying to defend himself he's said he's gone back into work when he should have been self isolating, carried out unnecessary travel to Chequers and the laughable testing his eyes excuse for going to a local beauty spot with his wife and kids on his wife's birthday.

He did something wrong and got caught. Own up and apologise. Obviously the problem now they're so far into a web of lies and misdirection he would have no choice other than resign, or be sacked, if he does finally own up.

 

[Grendel]

1) Loads of people had an issue with the bridge people. You keep getting told this and ignoring it.

2) The people on the bridge aren’t part of the government setting the rules who hounded out a scientific advisor for doing less not so long ago

Didn’t you initially claim that the bloke who went to Give his parents food somewhere in Herefordshire was ok?

What’s the view on Mr Kinnock?

 

[PVA]

Have you demanded Steven Kinnock resign for going to his self entitled old mans birthday party - can you show me a link to your outrage?

Kinnock should resign too. What's your point?

But if you can't see the difference between the Kinnock situation and the Cummings situation then you're either so utterly deluded by your love of the Tories or you're on the wind up.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Didn’t you initially claim that the bloke who went to Give his parents food somewhere in Herefordshire was ok?

What’s the view on Mr Kinnock?

You're more intelligent than this ridiculous whataboutery. FWIW I wouldn't have an issue with Kinnock being sacked.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

So the bloke drove miles away and people are losing their shit but never had an issue with paramedics mingling on a bridge with the public in their hundreds?

I don't get it.

Why is it that blokes who claim not to care about politics always fall over themselves to defend the Tories? Weird that

 

[Grendel]

Kinnock should resign too. What's your point?

But if you can't see the difference between the Kinnock situation and the Cummings situation then you're either so utterly deluded by your love of the Tories or you're on the wind up.

1 He hasn’t resigned
2 No one cared including you
3 Mr Cummings isn’t even a party member

 

[Saddlebrains]

IMO a large part of the issue, and why this is remaining a story, is the response when Cummings was found out. Rather than just admit he was wrong and apologise the entire Conservative party has doubled down to try and cover for him.

We've had the likes of Shapps and Gove sent out to cover for him and a constantly changing story riddled with inconsistencies. And thats before you consider how it stacks up against the account Wakefield has given multiple times.

Not to mention in trying to defend himself he's said he's gone back into work when he should have been self isolating, carried out unnecessary travel to Chequers and the laughable testing his eyes excuse for going to a local beauty spot with his wife and kids on his wife's birthday.

He did something wrong and got caught. Own up and apologise. Obviously the problem now they're so far into a web of lies and misdirection he would have no choice other than resign, or be sacked, if he does finally own up.

Worst bit of this for me is the media ignoring all the positives at the moment.

The WHO saying a second wave is now really unlikely. The plummeting figures and good news stories now coming from around Europe. The scientific evidence showing the virus is all but dying out.

Why arent they asking questions about this? Why are they not asking when people can see family again? Is it true that due to the above reasoning that we can get back to normality faster than thought?

No its the same question about cummings. Pathetic

 

[djr8369]

Kinnock should resign too. What's your point?

But if you can't see the difference between the Kinnock situation and the Cummings situation then you're either so utterly deluded by your love of the Tories or you're on the wind up.

His point is “but labour!”


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[chiefdave]

Mr Cummings isn’t even a party member

As an employee if I brought my employer into disrepute the way Cummings has there is zero chance I'd still be in a job.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Worst bit of this for me is the media ignoring all the positives at the moment.

The WHO saying a second wave is now really unlikely. The plummeting figures and good news stories now coming from around Europe. The scientific evidence showing the virus is all but dying out.

Why arent they asking questions about this? Why are they not asking when people can see family again? Is it true that due to the above reasoning that we can get back to normality faster than thought?

No its the same question about cummings. Pathetic

The plummeting figures and news stories coming from Europe are due to a completely different approach, how do you not understand that?

The WHO has said the exact opposite to that. It has warned of an immediate second wave if measures are lifted too soon. Ergo, the disease is not dying out naturally.