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Skybluefaz
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"I stress – I don't believe that economic equality is possible; indeed some measure of inequality is essential for the spirit of envy and keeping up with the Joneses that is, like greed, a valuable spur to economic activity."
Add to it this Boris quote and it seems to further back up Fernando's theory.
shmmeee
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Boils my fucking blood. They think we’re morons and plebs.
He wasn’t working for the government when he went on his Dom Jolly, it was his private life and he was acting as a private citizen. The fact he’s very well off and well connected is all the more reason he could’ve followed the rules.
If he’d apologised this would’ve gone away, in a way I’m glad he didn’t and he’s forced all these cunty Tories out into the open to make it clear quite what they think of the average British person.
shmmeee
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That’s a fundamental tenet of right wing thought, hardly a gotcha, they’ve written whole books on the subject.
Skybluefaz
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I agree, I think the course of action they are taking will be self destructive
Skybluefaz
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Yeah I'm not claiming any kind of exclusive
clint van damme
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Crowds shouldn't be an issue in Cov town centre!
David O'Day
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If you get the cock womble they shops are open let's go attitude you do.
There is a danger the spoonsqho rush to KFC and b and q will so the same thing
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clint van damme
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Heard someone interviewed yesterday talking about Cummings interview and when he was asked whether he'd informed the Prime minister.
He claimed protocol would dictate that Cummings should actually have informed his line manager who is actually a senior civil servant.
He would have been able to arrange anything Cummings needed without him leaving London and even if it was decided he needed to go to Durham he could have arranged transport. The she thing is a crock of shit.
fernandopartridge
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One of the Tory councillors in Saddleworth got done for noncing
shmmeee
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I know, just pointing out that what looks like a horrendous thing for someone to believe is actually very openly at the core of their ideology. They’re quite open about the fact that they need people clawing at each other so they’ll hand their labour over. And that the only reason they work is to climb this greasy pole they’ve imagined. It’s why the right fundamentally don’t understand public service and only drape themselves in it when they think it’ll play well.
Same as when the mask slips on Grendel and he starts ranking people’s lives. Disgusting and in a government will inevitably lead to atrocities as you don’t value all life the same. You think some people are “worth more”.
I’ll never understand it. No gods. No masters.
David O'Day
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People still angry and this isn't going away
The press are delighted they sent on Jenrick as a he is shite and b it allows the times to splash his own scandal
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The press are delighted they sent on Jenrick as a he is shite and b it allows the times to splash his own scandal
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shmmeee
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Well he’s a very important person and the usual rules don’t apply you see...
It can be a toxic and horrible ideology. It’s why they need the culture war though. If you convince enough people that immigrants or gay people are the issue or “the left are destroying free speech” you can distract them enough to not see how they are played.
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skybluetony176
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Just heard on the radio that over 35 Tory Mp’s are now trying to stop Brexit, err... I mean calling for Cummings to be sacked.
Brighton Sky Blue
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And most of all, you call those who point this out as sneering and condescending.
skybluetony176
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Former right wing sweetheart and the excellent dan hodges are having a tiff on Twitter but it does raise a wider issue past Coronavirus. What do rules and laws mean if you have instinct. This is setting a stupid precedent.
David O'Day
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I still love that the excellent dan Hodges mum thinks he's a c**t
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clint van damme
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I only found out the other day who his mum is. I bet she wishes she'd got his old man to wear a condom.
He'd have contributed more to humanity as a lump of jizz suffocating inside a rubber coffin than he ever has as a journalist.
stupot07
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Ring Of Steel
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I think this is spot on
There are some famous quotes by the political scientist Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was a visionary in terms of observing what was being played out in front of him back in the '60s, and knowing what was on the horizon.
"Shortly, the public will be unable to reason or think for themselves. They'll only be able to parrot the information they've been given on the previous night's news."
"The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."
"Speaking of a future at most only decades away, an experimenter in intelligence control asserted, “I foresee a time when we shall have the means and therefore, inevitably, the temptation to manipulate the behavior and intellectual functioning of all the people through environmental and biochemical manipulation of the brain."
"We have a large public that is very ignorant about public affairs and very susceptible to simplistic slogans by candidates who appear out of nowhere, have no track record, but mouth appealing slogans"
clint van damme
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they were actually due to appear at one and were in the building, (may have been Saturday), but got bumped at the last minute.
clint van damme
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David O'Day
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It completely undermines the basis of law and the written and unwritten norms that are the basis of a functioning society. It’s turning the ‘rights of the individual’ of conservatism into anarchy.
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The failure of Cummings' British culture war
Some good points here and reasons for hope. They managed to use post truth politics, a culture war and Russian bot networks to get the brexit vote - just. The Cummings debacle and the pandemic generally is showing that can only take you so far in Britain.
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Some good points here and reasons for hope. They managed to use post truth politics, a culture war and Russian bot networks to get the brexit vote - just. The Cummings debacle and the pandemic generally is showing that can only take you so far in Britain.
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Had temp checked at work with a thermal camera last week, needs to be done everyday though, IMO. Doing schools will have the resources for that and government advice will be “wash your hands” and hope for the best.
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hill83
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We’ve got one of those where I work. Set it off and they do a manual check. Set that off, sent home. Easy to set up. Absolutely no excuse for not having one in every school.
Saying that though. “I wish them well”
Sky Blue Pete
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Hilarious
Ian1779
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Most schools don’t have the capacity for all its students to wash their hands regularly throughout the day - certainly not in a timely manner at the very least.