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wingy

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In 1990, some Quakers started a letter-writing campaign after a Quaker Oats advertisement depicted Popeye as a "Quakerman" who used violence against aliens, sharks, and Bluto.[34] Later that decade, more letters were sparked by Power Rangers toys included in Cap'n Crunch cereal.[35]

Even the Quakers have had issues .
Not keen on having their identity appropriated.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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What is supposed to be the issue with Coco Pops? It uses a cartoon monkey who's just meant to be a monkey surely.
Umbongo, umbongo
They drink it
In the Congo.
....... no they don't, so lets be outraged.
 

Grendel

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Am I the only person whose seen The Road To Welville
 

Nick

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Its still being overlooked that a group of people were going to kill that bloke until he was saved.

Of course they did a good thing saving him but the "violent thugs" seem to be a one way thing still. He wasn't pulled from a river, people were stamping on him to kill him.

This is really all down to the media and how they want to spin things all of the time.
 

Otis

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Its still being overlooked that a group of people were going to kill that bloke until he was saved.

Of course they did a good thing saving him but the "violent thugs" seem to be a one way thing still. He wasn't pulled from a river, people were stamping on him to kill him.
Yup. Should be identified and arrested if there is a case to prove.

A thug is a thug.
 

Nick

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Yup. Should be identified and arrested if there is a case to prove.

A thug is a thug.

You just have to read the headlines and the way the press put it across.

Like you say, a thug is a thug, a hero is a hero. So much of it is social media and the media and the way they report things.

It's all politics.
 

rob9872

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Am I the only person whose seen The Road To Welville
No :(
Dreadful film, kept expecting it to improve by the time I'd given up on that hope I was too invested.
 

clint van damme

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Its still being overlooked that a group of people were going to kill that bloke until he was saved.

Of course they did a good thing saving him but the "violent thugs" seem to be a one way thing still. He wasn't pulled from a river, people were stamping on him to kill him.

This is really all down to the media and how they want to spin things all of the time.

is it?
I saw this fella interviewed and also his boss (runs some security firm) who organised for them to go to the demo.
His boos said he took some of his men there because they could see the younger lads were angry and likely to do something stupid and they wanted to calm things down. He didn't gloss over that there was violence and that in all likelihood there would of been more.
The interview was on national TV so I'm not sure it's been overlooked.
 

Nick

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is it?
I saw this fella interviewed and also his boss (runs some security firm) who organised for them to go to the demo.
His boos said he took some of his men there because they could see the younger lads were angry and likely to do something stupid and they wanted to calm things down. He didn't gloss over that there was violence and that in all likelihood there would of been more.
The interview was on national TV so I'm not sure it's been overlooked.

I don't mean the actual people who rescued them, they are being honest and come across very well. I meant more the media / press.

However look at how it's reported and compare it to the 2 lads with a knife chased in Coventry.
 

clint van damme

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I don't mean the actual people who rescued them, they are being honest and come across very well. I meant more the media / press.

However look at how it's reported and compare it to the 2 lads with a knife chased in Coventry.

I don't disagree about the Coventry incident.
But if one of the people involved in the London incident goes on national TV and admits there was violence then I don't see how that is ignoring it.
I read an interview with Patrick Hutchinson in the Guardian as well and he's fairly candid though he doesn't really use the word violence to describe what the younger lads were up to those he doesn't have a go at the right wing protestors either so he was being fairly diplomatic.
 

Nick

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I don't disagree about the Coventry incident.
But if one of the people involved in the London incident goes on national TV and admits there was violence then I don't see how that is ignoring it.
I read an interview with Patrick Hutchinson in the Guardian as well and he's fairly candid though he doesn't really use the word violence to describe what the younger lads were up to those he doesn't have a go at the right wing protestors either so he was being fairly diplomatic.
Yeah I know he has been very honest and humble. I just meant how it's then portrayed in the press when they then pass the story.

If a city fan would have come out and said those 2 lads would have been murdered it would have been "angry mob try to murder innocent boys in racist attack".

Now, I'm not saying it was racist. It's just how the media always try their best to get people worked up and divide the way they put angles on things.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Its still being overlooked that a group of people were going to kill that bloke until he was saved.

Of course they did a good thing saving him but the "violent thugs" seem to be a one way thing still. He wasn't pulled from a river, people were stamping on him to kill him.

This is really all down to the media and how they want to spin things all of the time.

The people that attacked the bloke definitely need arresting, charging and locking up for a long time for the violent attack. However, I think it's going a bit far to say they were trying to kill him. That's not to say either that if there hadn't been an intervention the attack may have resulted in him dying as we all know it can just take one punch or bad fall from one to kill somebody but we've seen similar vidoes before from Saturday nights with fights occurring and people being stamped - it doesn't mean it is their intention to kill them but 'give them a kicking'.

It's a load of stupid people who don't have the forethought to consider the possible outcomes of their actions. This isn't excusing their behaviour and as I say they should be jailed but I do think a distinction should be made on the intent.
 

Nick

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The people that attacked the bloke definitely need arresting, charging and locking up for a long time for the violent attack. However, I think it's going a bit far to say they were trying to kill him. That's not to say either that if there hadn't been an intervention the attack may have resulted in him dying as we all know it can just take one punch or bad fall from one to kill somebody but we've seen similar vidoes before from Saturday nights with fights occurring and people being stamped - it doesn't mean it is their intention to kill them but 'give them a kicking'.

It's a load of stupid people who don't have the forethought to consider the possible outcomes of their actions. This isn't excusing their behaviour and as I say they should be jailed but I do think a distinction should be made on the intent.

Not being funny but anybody that kicks somebody in the head when they are on the floor should be done for attempted murder.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Not being funny but anybody that kicks somebody in the head when they are on the floor should be done for attempted murder.

I can't really disagree with the assessment - it's a totally reckless and dangerous thing to do and any sane person should be aware of the potential consequences. It would mean hundreds of people around the country being up for attempted murder every week after weekend nights out though or 'football' hooligans.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Nothing wrong with that.

It would make people thing harder about what they're doing and would potentially massively reduce this kind of thing happening. Short term it would lead to a massive backlog in the courts and a lot of people complaining about draconian measures etc. But it probably is time for a bit of 'tough love' to improve behaviour of the feral few.
 

Nick

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It would make people thing harder about what they're doing and would potentially massively reduce this kind of thing happening. Short term it would lead to a massive backlog in the courts and a lot of people complaining about draconian measures etc. But it probably is time for a bit of 'tough love' to improve behaviour of the feral few.

Same with carrying knives. Clean that shit up.

If people want a scrap, they sort it like gypsies under a bridge one on one.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Think it's a difference in the interpretation of the meaning of shocking.

Otis means it in a 'digusting' kind of way rather than a 'surprising'
 

Otis

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We need to start treating all people as equals and apparently God loves everyone, so the congregation should be happy to accept anyone of their faith to lead their church. If he is a good person of course.
 

Nick

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We need to start treating all people as equals and apparently God loves everyone, so the congregation should be happy to accept anyone of their faith to lead their church. If he is a good person of course.

Imagine if he was gay AND black?
 

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