SlowerThanPlatt
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Realistic then
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Realistic then
Evo1883
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Yep, won't be long, but it's healthy competition and cover
Hobo
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It gives us options within the squad. Robins has a system that works with 3 at back 2 wb and 2 dcm and I think he will stick with it. But he does change things sometimes when chasing a game i.e 2 up front.
Didn't see this happening - but will take it. Certainly gives us more strength and depth. Norwich might be prepared to cover most his wages who knows?
Didn't see this happening - but will take it. Certainly gives us more strength and depth. Norwich might be prepared to cover most his wages who knows?
skyblueeyesrevisited
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I think Debbie McGee still has a wand as well
mr_monkey
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Mccallum is excellent cover for Giles, cracking bit of business
Agreed. We have good cover for Dabo in Pask, Burroughs, Da Costa (when fit) and Lowe (who looked promising in pre-season). Not sure we need any more, so zero chance that Robins has Sam in mind for this role.
DannyThomas_1981
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Just my take and with no inside knowledge. I suspect that Robins will rotate more this season given the demands of the Championship.
I think he would have rotated more last season but the squad depth wasn't quite there which resulted in Kelly and Godden playing through injuries.
I don't see the system changing which has worked so well for us. I don't see Giles as an AM. I do see Giles and McCallum rotating based on who we are playing and the game situation.
I think he would have rotated more last season but the squad depth wasn't quite there which resulted in Kelly and Godden playing through injuries.
I don't see the system changing which has worked so well for us. I don't see Giles as an AM. I do see Giles and McCallum rotating based on who we are playing and the game situation.
samccov1987
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considering how good Sam was for us last season I feel a bit bemused at this one. We’re obviously stronger with him in the squad but feel a bit sorry for Giles who never got a look in last year and has looked good in the first couple of games.
Have to say though we really are starting to look like having a decent championship squad.Early days but reckon we could be looking at better than just staying up.
Have to say though we really are starting to look like having a decent championship squad.Early days but reckon we could be looking at better than just staying up.
Skybluedownunder
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To go Spurs and play for their reserves? Surely he’d want to kick on with his career and play week in week out in the Championship somewhere and earn a move to a Prem team once you’ve got some first team appearances
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SeaSeeEffCee
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Not convinced that this fella isn’t a secret Man United fan as the only players he ever seems to want us to sign are United youth players.
Ring Of Steel
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This is really strange, had to look twice and check the dates
Ccfcisparks
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Listen, here me out... could Sam play as a CDM? Good defensively and strong.
Liquid Gold
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This is a strange one. I would have preferred us to have looked at a prospect from lower down the pyramid and groomed them for the job behind Giles. It takes up another loan spot meaning 1 more and that’s it, I don’t want us to be full of loans like a Mowbray team but also think we need another ACM in and expected that to be a loan from above.
Also for those that don’t understand loans, what usually happens is teams agree to loan a player at a certain % of their salary. You then pay less or more than this depending on if they’re playing. Having two people in the same position both on loan means we’re guaranteed to be paying top money for one of them which is restricting an already tight budget.
I also don’t get the Cov obsession with wanting to push players forward and out of position. Giles looks good driving at players because he’s able to get up some speed coming from space, if you put him as an ACM he will be playing in a much more congested part of the pitch so won’t be able to get to use his pace as effectively and is nowhere near two footed enough to get himself out of trouble.
I’m not disappointed in this because McCallum has already shown He’s a very good player and fits in with the squad so it’s good to have him here. I just don’t get the logic behind it.
Also for those that don’t understand loans, what usually happens is teams agree to loan a player at a certain % of their salary. You then pay less or more than this depending on if they’re playing. Having two people in the same position both on loan means we’re guaranteed to be paying top money for one of them which is restricting an already tight budget.
I also don’t get the Cov obsession with wanting to push players forward and out of position. Giles looks good driving at players because he’s able to get up some speed coming from space, if you put him as an ACM he will be playing in a much more congested part of the pitch so won’t be able to get to use his pace as effectively and is nowhere near two footed enough to get himself out of trouble.
I’m not disappointed in this because McCallum has already shown He’s a very good player and fits in with the squad so it’s good to have him here. I just don’t get the logic behind it.
SlowerThanPlatt
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He’s 20 and will be able to get a much better move than CCFC
Agree with this. Given the large number of midweek games I think there will be plenty of rotation. The way we play, the wing backs cover more ground and use more energy than any other players, so the ability to rotate during heavy schedules will be invaluable. Obviously, this doesn’t apply to Dabo who is a machine and needs no rest ;-)
Flying Fokker
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Surely this would have been set up earlier? is there a cashflow issue at Norwich?
Mucca Mad Boys
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It's Dabo all over again...
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Not a waste of a loan in itself, just seems an... odd move all round, really.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Playing Giles at LW wouldn't be playing him out of position, it's his natural position and is being re-coached as a LWB.
Liquid Gold
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But we don’t play with wingers. Our entire strength is in the system we play.
SeaSeeEffCee
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People comparing the Dabo at CM shouts to Giles are CAM shouts are a bit off the mark imo. As has been said, Giles is a wide midfielder who has been converted to a wing back. People have been calling for Jodi and Jobello to be given a go in the Allen/O'Hare role. Don't really see why the idea of Giles playing there is considered so ridiculous, feels like people just going "left back to attacking midfield, no way".
Frostie
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Benfica, Porto, AZ, Besiktas, West Ham but nah, one call from CCFC & he'll turn all them down I'm sure.
Exactly. Jones is/was a winger and looked really good in that AM role.
I'd say Giles is more suited to it than Jobello would be.
It's the only way this signing makes any sense in my opinion
covcity4life
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Played huge part in our promotion and some of our fans moan lol
Mucca Mad Boys
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Agreed. But, we need options if we need to change things up.
We can’t just rely on one system and the same personnel otherwise we run the risk of being found out tactically.
Samo
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I am simply suggesting that he might be a weapon late in games when defences are tiring as a cameo.
I'm not suggesting that we convert him to CAM.
standupforcity
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Giles for Shipley?
Otis
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Could be a combination of Black Lives Matter and Giles' silly haircut.
Liquid Gold
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Our change things up option is currently two up top. If we’re looking for wingers as a change option then we need to find a right winger too. It would also mean going 4 at the back which takes Dabo’s game away, means we lose one of the 3 at the back which Fadz for one never looked comfortable in and he’s the only leader we’ve got there and completely negates the whole point of having two LWBs that don’t look completely comfortable at LB.
SlowerThanPlatt
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He’s the most versatile player ever
covcity4life
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How awesome would be it be if we had Tues sat 4 weeks in a row and Giles and mcallum each got 4 games vs tired defenders? Squad game!
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