Match Thread Barnsley Match Thread (18 Viewers)

[cc84cov]

Would anybody have Thomas over O'Hare in the 10 for us? I already know the answer but we have someone who is as tenacious as Thomas but with an end product.

Not in a million years,it’s not even close

 

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[Liquid Gold]

Not in a million years,it’s not even close

Exactly.

Would you swap Godden for Chaplin?

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Thomas was great for us but he also cost us games with his poor judgement and finishing. Glad he’s found a lower league championship team like Barnsley to play at. But he would never get into our team now.

 

[Marty]

Would anybody have Thomas over O'Hare in the 10 for us? I already know the answer but we have someone who is as tenacious as Thomas but with an end product.

Same with Godden and Chaplin. I'd even take 3rd choice Baka over Chaplin.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Thomas was great for us but he also cost us games with his poor judgement and finishing. Glad he’s found a lower league championship team like Barnsley to play at. But he would never get into our team now.

We are a lower Championship team

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

We are a lower Championship team

We are mid table.

 

[SkyBlue_Adam]

We’ll see come Saturday, but after 20 minutes, when you’re thinking these can’t keep this up all game, they’ll blow up and get knackered towards end, don’t count on it.

It’s worked well for you so far this season hasn’t it....

 

[Barnsley]

Interesting game for sure we’re getting a lot sharper and fitter after the long lay off,

how is Chaplin and Thomas doing for you guys ?

Brilliant at what they’re main job is, closing down and penning teams in, but they’re not clinical enough in front of goal.

 

[Deleted member 2477]

I saw Barnsley twice the season they got promoted. Although we took 4 points off of them, they were obviously a very good (League 1) team. They must have improved on that to have survived last season. I read on here that they won only one of their opening 9 games. That would indicate, that to stay up, their form in the remaining 37 games must have been approaching play off standard. Coming to the final run in last season, I know they were still adrift. Their form in the last few games must have been excellent. (I know they were lucky because of Wigan's points deduction). However, surviving in the way that they did suggests that they are far from being 'shite'.

Well theyve lost both their games so far so I think we can win but would be happy with a draw away

 

[Barnsley]

It’s worked well for you so far this season hasn’t it....

Yeah same as last season, if we could take our chances we’d finish top 6 but we can’t, you’ll see on Saturday.
As long as we don’t burn ourselves out at Chelsea on Wednesday.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Brilliant at what they’re main job is, closing down and penning teams in, but they’re not clinical enough in front of goal.

Isn’t a strikers main job to score goals?

 

[Liquid Gold]

Yeah same as last season, if we could take our chances we’d finish top 6 but we can’t, you’ll see on Saturday.
As long as we don’t burn ourselves out at Chelsea on Wednesday.

What's your squad size like? Will you be able to rotate against Chelsea?

 

[Barnsley]

Isn’t a strikers main job to score goals?

Not in our team, it’s set up to defend from the front. Their main job is pressing.

 

[SkyBlue_Adam]

Not in our team, it’s set up to defend from the front. Their main job is pressing.

Defensive strikers? Good god...

 

[Deleted member 2477]

Leeds, Forest, and Brentford fans thought that going into the last 3 games of last season.
Leeds (A) 6 shots 2 on target.
Forest (H) 8 shots 1 on target.
Brentford (A) 12 shots 3 on target

First two league games this season.

Luton (H) 3 shots 1 on target.
Reading (A) 6 shots 5 on target. But we played half hour with 10 men and 25 minutes with 9 men.

Last season we was the second best pressing side in the league behind Leeds, and finished 5 in the XG table.
Our problem is we’ve sacrificed goal scorers for grafters, so we can press from the front, as a result we can’t take any of the abundance of chances we create.

If you try to play out from the back you’ll struggle to get out of your own half.

You can press as much as you want and have 100 shots on target but unless you put the ball in the net it means jack shit.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Yeah same as last season, if we could take our chances we’d finish top 6 but we can’t, you’ll see on Saturday.
As long as we don’t burn ourselves out at Chelsea on Wednesday.

xG is only a small indicator of performance

 

[Barnsley]

You can press as much as you want and have 100 shots on target but unless you put the ball in the net it means jack shit.

I totally agree, it’s the reason I said we’ll probably lose one nil. And the reason we struggled to stay up last season, My point is you all think you’ll play us of the park and create an abundance of chances, I’m suggesting that you won’t and pointing out why.

 

[Barnsley]

What's your squad size like? Will you be able to rotate against Chelsea?

We could be he probably won’t.

 

[covmark]

Same with Godden and Chaplin. I'd even take 3rd choice Baka over Chaplin.

Let's not get carried away now.

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[capel & collindridge]

That’s what happens when a side who finished 8th in Lge 1 gets promoted...

Quite unlike when a team finishes 6th in Lge 2, of course!! ;-)

 

[cc84cov]

Brilliant at what they’re main job is, closing down and penning teams in, but they’re not clinical enough in front of goal.

Had the same effect here mate Chaplin seemed to do ok last year for use

 

[cc84cov]

Let's not get carried away now.

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Chaplin would make the bench over Baka and max & possibly Walker let’s be real here but Godden for me is the better out of him and Chaplin

 

[skybluepm2]

Leeds, Forest, and Brentford fans thought that going into the last 3 games of last season.
Leeds (A) 6 shots 2 on target.
Forest (H) 8 shots 1 on target.
Brentford (A) 12 shots 3 on target

First two league games this season.

Luton (H) 3 shots 1 on target.
Reading (A) 6 shots 5 on target. But we played half hour with 10 men and 25 minutes with 9 men.

Last season we was the second best pressing side in the league behind Leeds, and finished 5 in the XG table.
Our problem is we’ve sacrificed goal scorers for grafters, so we can press from the front, as a result we can’t take any of the abundance of chances we create.

If you try to play out from the back you’ll struggle to get out of your own half.

Petrified

 

[Frostie]

Chaplin would make the bench over Baka and max & possibly Walker let’s be real here but Godden for me is the better out of him and Chaplin

It's a pointless comparison, Chaplin is a good player but wouldn't fit our system ahead of any of the other strikers.
Could possibly do a job in one one of the No.10 roles but we have different types of player there.

 

[Barnsley]

Had the same effect here mate Chaplin seemed to do ok last year for use

Last season we regularly had 10 to15 shots a game with 5/6/7/ on target and lost 1-0 sums up all of our strikers in one sentence. Woodrow is clinical, but he doesn’t press as well as the others, so he doesn’t play in the striker role, and now Thomas as been playing behind the strikers instead of him, if our strikers could finish 60% of their chances we’d be a top six side, but they can’t and we’re not.

 

[Deleted member 2477]

Chaplin would make the bench over Baka and max & possibly Walker let’s be real here but Godden for me is the better out of him and Chaplin

I think you under estimating Walker. Once he is upto speed I believe we have someone who will be very clinical and take his chances well

 

[Liquid Gold]

Beat them and we'll be 6 points ahead of them already. They would have gone down last season if it wasn't for the dodgy stuff at Wigan. Took 4 points off them in League one and two of their main players are ones we had then improved upon. If we're serious about staying up we need to be winning these games to compensate for when we have the inevitable bad patches of form.

They've played the teams that finished 14th and 19th last year and got 0 points, we've played 13th and 12th and got 3.

QPR allowed 6 shots against v Forest, the same Barnsley did against Reading, we had 12 against them. I'm confident we create more chances against their 343 with our shape than the teams they've played so far have.

Add to that we had 16 shots away at Bristol City who only let Stoke have 8 shots at home today. We create chances and we will do against Barnsley. They will have to make sure their press is spot on because if they push us high and let us play through the lines we'll be alright.

 

[Offhegoes]

Chaplin would make the bench over Baka and max & possibly Walker let’s be real here but Godden for me is the better out of him and Chaplin

I liked Chaplin as a player and was disappointed when he left. Sure he would fitted in just behind Godden last season, but we only got Godden as we sold Chaplin. The club need to make those kind of decisions, and it was the right one.

 

[Hobo]

Every team in the Championship deserves respect. Every team is capable of winning games.

 

[skybluepm2]

Yeah same as last season, if we could take our chances we’d finish top 6 but we can’t, you’ll see on Saturday.
As long as we don’t burn ourselves out at Chelsea on Wednesday.

I’m sure the majority of sides could use the same ‘if only’ scenario, but the fact that you stayed up by the skin of your teeth on the final day suggests otherwise.

 

[Somerset Sky Blue]

I totally agree, it’s the reason I said we’ll probably lose one nil. And the reason we struggled to stay up last season, My point is you all think you’ll play us of the park and create an abundance of chances, I’m suggesting that you won’t and pointing out why.

I don't think everyone believes we will play you off the park, but a victory against QPR has boosted confidence of some fans.
We think we play a nice style of football which may catch out teams that underestimate us - if Barnsley are a hard working, pressing side then it should be a good game.
Personally, I've no idea what the result will be - obviously hope for a win, a draw away isn't too bad and a loss isn't awful (though the forum may have a meltdown!).
At present, we are just keen to see our players perform and compete against championship opposition. If we survive the season, then the main objective has been met. Any more will be a bonus.

 

[Barnsley]

I don't think everyone believes we will play you off the park, but a victory against QPR has boosted confidence of some fans.
We think we play a nice style of football which may catch out teams that underestimate us - if Barnsley are a hard working, pressing side then it should be a good game.
Personally, I've no idea what the result will be - obviously hope for a win, a draw away isn't too bad and a loss isn't awful (though the forum may have a meltdown!).
At present, we are just keen to see our players perform and compete against championship opposition. If we survive the season, then the main objective has been met. Any more will be a bonus.

somewhere online theirs a really long winded scouting report on our pressing style, it’s a fascinating read for reds fans, but will probably bore the tits off you lot. Nonetheless If you’re interested in reading it let me know and I’ll try and find it for ya.
we’re a really good side but we just can’t score, if you go back over the stats from our last 20 games you’ll be really surprised at just how dominant we’ve been without scoring.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

I totally agree, it’s the reason I said we’ll probably lose one nil. And the reason we struggled to stay up last season, My point is you all think you’ll play us of the park and create an abundance of chances, I’m suggesting that you won’t and pointing out why.

To be fair I don't think many on here really think we'll play you off the park (I certainly don't) Suspect there'll only be one goal in it either way. I'm a huge Luke Thomas fan, and if his end product was better I think he'd be a top Championship, even Pl player. Work rate is incredible. Also like Chaplin as he is like an annoying gnat that won't go away, and not a bad finisher. I think the result may come down to whether we mess up knocking around the back or not. Julian Gray to be our (very) secret weapon.

 

[Philosoraptor]

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

That's mean. You can't post this on here when we have visitors from Barnsley on the forum, and not explain to them what it means (then I can read your explanation and try to understand it myself!)