Gary Deegan suspended from the club (7 Viewers)
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Mumford and Daughter
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anyone who says 'up the RA' is a support of the IRA.
to me that disgraceful and disrespectful
lordsummerisle
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There would be nobody on here if got a two week suspension for that!
Mumford and Daughter
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Nick
Administrator
If he is a supporter of them and backs them, condones their actions in the past and generally agrees with their views then I agree.
Nick
Administrator
I have heard he isn't the brightest.
Desperados
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Is this you on a public domain saying you think all Irish people are thick? Or is it just banter?
No they have not, you have decided that what he put was nota joke to his mate, but an open declaration of support for terrorism. Ipersonally see it as banter in ill taste and miss guided, but banter all thesame . He apologised explained it was meant as banter and did not mean offence.Why you insist on going down the he supports murderer's route is beyond me!
The IRA caused a lot of misery and suffering, but forcingthat into what was a tweet amongst friends is ridiculous.
Do I think he is a terrorist - NO was it in bad taste andstupid - YES
Should he be fined and advised on future media use - YES Sacked - NO
dongonzalos
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Do I think he is a terrorist - NO was it in bad taste andstupid - YES
Should he be fined and advised on future media use - YES Sacked - NO
This is the key bit Mumford. Everybody on here says he should not have put that comment on Twitter. Everybody agrees with that. No one has said it was a good idea.
If Gary Deegan said I aupport the IRA I support violence against joe public most people on here would be asking for him to be sacked.
This difference is how do you deal with an ill thought out spur of the moment joke. I think educate the person and get them to apoligise and move on.
The problem is, it seems that if you have this view people then accuse you of supporting murder of innocent people.
The question is what does a two week suspension achieve, it punishes me and you
It is a strange solution, hence why I think it is SISU seeing if they have a change of wage reduction.
Should he be fined and advised on future media use - YES Sacked - NO
This is the key bit Mumford. Everybody on here says he should not have put that comment on Twitter. Everybody agrees with that. No one has said it was a good idea.
If Gary Deegan said I aupport the IRA I support violence against joe public most people on here would be asking for him to be sacked.
This difference is how do you deal with an ill thought out spur of the moment joke. I think educate the person and get them to apoligise and move on.
The problem is, it seems that if you have this view people then accuse you of supporting murder of innocent people.
The question is what does a two week suspension achieve, it punishes me and you
It is a strange solution, hence why I think it is SISU seeing if they have a change of wage reduction.
An Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman are on Twitter. The Scotsman tweets about playing for Northern Ireland. The Irishman tweets an alleged joke about the IRA. The Englishman gets all offended.
LOL!!! Just made that joke up now, but feel free to use it amongst friends and out of the public domain!!!
LOL!!! Just made that joke up now, but feel free to use it amongst friends and out of the public domain!!!
Mumford and Daughter
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fair enough
Nonleagueherewecome
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Agreed: EXTRA training, get him running up dunes like in that classic old film The Hill! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_(film)
MORE training-not none! We've got enough players missing pre-season without inflicting more on ourselves. Assuming he'll still even be at the club after his suspension, which many think he won't.
So that includes you then. Or have I taken that out of context.
Mumford and Daughter
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never realised so many cov fans try to be funny.
but with a name crowsnest that sense of humour is accepted in nuneaton
torchomatic
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So do your "non PC" jokes mean you genuinely believe that what you put was acceptable? Did you truly believe in what you put in your "non PC" joke. Do you think you shoulld have been suspended, maybe sacked and vilified by complete hysterical strangers on a message board if someone had found out what you'd said?
Nonleagueherewecome
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And he got one hell of a lot of grief from our other players when he signed because of his "Irish Haircut"
torchomatic
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My cousin has got an Irish Setter. I know he would be disgusted and OUTRAGED at M&D's poor judgement to attack Irish people on a public forum. He should be banned from the forum for two weeks.
Stone him! Stone him!
Stone him! Stone him!
Otis
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Otis
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There was a post I believe on GMK last week whereby some Muslim reporter was getting all hot under the collar at the England fans wearing St. George armour and shields and attire at the Euro Championships and he was talking about it representing the Crusades and being in very poor taste. How many hundreds of years ago was that?
FFS.
Perspective, perspective. If the IRA were still operating in the same manner they were 20, 30 and 40 years ago and were still active as a terrorist organisation then I could understand the uproar. If that had have been the case then I am sure Deegan wouldn't have said it.
It's like the old age dilemma. How long after someone is dead is it okay to make a joke about them.
FFS.
Perspective, perspective. If the IRA were still operating in the same manner they were 20, 30 and 40 years ago and were still active as a terrorist organisation then I could understand the uproar. If that had have been the case then I am sure Deegan wouldn't have said it.
It's like the old age dilemma. How long after someone is dead is it okay to make a joke about them.
Changeyourface
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Well I'm sure the families of the victims have got over it by now, so it's perfectly acceptable for public figures to make pro-IRA comments....
Otis
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It was a joke.
Context. This is all to do with McPake playing for Northern Ireland and Deegan being from the Republic of Ireland. Surely you can see that? He appologised, removed the comment. Just fine him some wages and let's move on.
How many Muslims did we kill during the Crusades?
Maybe we should not wear the armour anymore for fancy dress.
Context. This is all to do with McPake playing for Northern Ireland and Deegan being from the Republic of Ireland. Surely you can see that? He appologised, removed the comment. Just fine him some wages and let's move on.
How many Muslims did we kill during the Crusades?
Maybe we should not wear the armour anymore for fancy dress.
Changeyourface
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"We?" Wern't the Crusades around 800 years ago? Slightly different scenario.
Sterling Archer
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The issue with this is that the majority of us aren't stupid enough to post it in a public place whilst being in a job where everything you say in the public eye is under scrutiny and will be judged.
Deegan was VERY VERY stupid but I doubt there was any real malice in the comment.
I also think it leaves Deegan in a bad situation, we all know how many knuckledragging "NO SURRENDER" types you get at the football and I wouldn't be surprised if a section of fans booed him.
He's crap anyway, so if we can use his wages elsewhere I'm all for him leaving. I'll save people the bother of replying "DO U REALLY FINK SISU WUD SPEND THOSE SAVED WAGEZ ON PLAYAZ?!?!?!"
Mumford and Daughter
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you really are a sad sad human being
i do it privatly unlike deegan who broadcasts it on a public domain
stupot07
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I agree to an extent Otis, but employers have to do things by the book, and even "jokes" if in bad taste or someone takes offence to them can be subject to disciplinary procedures. Let's wait for the outcome before we get too enraged.
Also we're going back to training. Week early so effectively Deegan will only be one week begins those at other clubs.
Also we're going back to training. Week early so effectively Deegan will only be one week begins those at other clubs.
fatboyblue
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If this guy had done this up here in Scotland, he would have been applauded in the press and on BBC (Boys Backing Celtic) Scotland. Celtic would be beating a path to his door to sign him and he would be an instant hero and role model for The Green Brigade, who would have a song penned and ready for his debut. In fact if you want rid of him drop a note to..
.. Mr. Peter Liewell.
The Piggery
Glasgow
He will be delighted to sign him, just for the extra tops he will sell with Deegan's name on the back.
Seriously, this is very, very small beer compared to what gets tweeted up here.
For instance, the latest atrocity perpetrated against Rangers Football Club, by supposedly respected(but no longer) channel 4 and ITV journalist Alex Thomson who tweeted a gif. mocking the memorial outside our stadium to the 66 poor souls who lost their lives in the Ibrox disaster in January 1971. His excuse was that he did not know the significance of the memorial. This after fully describing it and its meaning in a blog last March. A disgusting sub-human.
At least your guy apologised.
.. Mr. Peter Liewell.
The Piggery
Glasgow
He will be delighted to sign him, just for the extra tops he will sell with Deegan's name on the back.
Seriously, this is very, very small beer compared to what gets tweeted up here.
For instance, the latest atrocity perpetrated against Rangers Football Club, by supposedly respected(but no longer) channel 4 and ITV journalist Alex Thomson who tweeted a gif. mocking the memorial outside our stadium to the 66 poor souls who lost their lives in the Ibrox disaster in January 1971. His excuse was that he did not know the significance of the memorial. This after fully describing it and its meaning in a blog last March. A disgusting sub-human.
At least your guy apologised.
Changeyourface
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True but I've apologised loads of times without meaning it to get out of the shit. Didn't mean I was truely sorry for what I did, and didn't mean I wasn't a wanker, just meant I regretted getting caught.
torchomatic
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So, its acceptable for you because you're clever enough to do it in private?
SkyBlueJohnso
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agree with most on here with common sense - he knows he done wrong and has apologised, club needs to take some action so fine him and slap his wrists.
how is suspending him punishment? he's missing out on the 1st 2 weeks of pre season training, i'm sure he's ready and raring to get started as he knows he's got a good chance of starting the 1st game of the season and making an impression this year, all the club are doing are holding him back, therefore punishing the rest of the team!!!
how is suspending him punishment? he's missing out on the 1st 2 weeks of pre season training, i'm sure he's ready and raring to get started as he knows he's got a good chance of starting the 1st game of the season and making an impression this year, all the club are doing are holding him back, therefore punishing the rest of the team!!!
Mumford and Daughter
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yes because its private
Nick
Administrator
So if he said up the IRA in private he wouldnt support them but in public he does?
torchomatic
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Nonleagueherewecome
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You might have to bring milk in tomorrow if you want an early morning coffee.
I mean it's tertible, yeah, Deegan, yadda yadda...