Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (39 Viewers)

wingy

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No I don’t think so - saying that student to teacher transmission should be very limited due to adjustments in place, especially in Secondary. I imagine significant majority would be in Primary settings.
Asymptomatic in children has been around 40-45% according to studies.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Has kuenssberg upset someone? have the tories got a new unofficial spokesman?



Felt inevitable for a little while now. It'll help but once again later than it should've been and people will die because of it.

Don't understand keeping the schools etc open when the increase in cases correlates very well with the return to school (I know this isn't causation and many other factors are likely to be involved).

If Peston is correct it says outbound int travel is banned, domestic travel discouraged. What about inbound? Surely this is just as important? At the very least make sure everyone is forced into quarantine and traceable.
 

chiefdave

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If Peston is correct it says outbound int travel is banned, domestic travel discouraged. What about inbound? Surely this is just as important? At the very least make sure everyone is forced into quarantine and traceable.
Think this was posted earlier in the thread but it indicates the current procedure for quarantining people coming into the country isn't working. I say procedure but from what I can make out you arrive at the airport and are then free to jump on the tube, coach etc with zero quarantine enforcement.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Think this was posted earlier in the thread but it indicates the current procedure for quarantining people coming into the country isn't working. I say procedure but from what I can make out you arrive at the airport and are then free to jump on the tube, coach etc with zero quarantine enforcement.

Exactly.

it's like they're leaving out probably the biggest transmitters of the disease. Why?

Sorry to go all brexit again but wasn't one of the big things control of our borders? Well, we need that border control now to literally stop people dying.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Felt inevitable for a little while now. It'll help but once again later than it should've been and people will die because of it.

Don't understand keeping the schools etc open when the increase in cases correlates very well with the return to school (I know this isn't causation and many other factors are likely to be involved).

If Peston is correct it says outbound int travel is banned, domestic travel discouraged. What about inbound? Surely this is just as important? At the very least make sure everyone is forced into quarantine and traceable.

It kind of does, the infections surged first in university and school age people, then it moved to older people. Simple reason is being in a massive bubble seems to mean you can do whatever with each other all day.
 
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It's a savage indictment of government policy that many areas in the country are moving from tier one... to full lockdown beyond tier three. Surely if the original policy was right, we should *all* have been in tier three by now, and needing to move *beyond* it?

It makes little sense, otherwise!
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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What a balls up.
To not combine half term into this equation and plan /time pre emptively is blind and unforgivable

Anyone could have seen it coming Wingy, they decided to plough on and hope for the best. Now they want a month of closing everything good while keeping the crap and keeping open a big driver of infection.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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Yep....when sage suggested a circuit breaker for 21/09 and you even had northern labour leaders calling for strict local lockdowns on 29/09........and here we are...nearly 6 weeks on. Surely this is bordering on criminal negligence?

As a side note, liverpool's infection rate has dropped from nearly 700 per 100k to around 400 per 100k in the couple weeks since tier 3 restrictions....still way too high but again more proof that hospitality has had a major impact on transmission rates....far more so than the lobbyists would have you believe
 

Grendel

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Anyone could have seen it coming Wingy, they decided to plough on and hope for the best. Now they want a month of closing everything good while keeping the crap and keeping open a big driver of infection.

Starmer says it’s vital schools do not close again regardless
 
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Anyone could have seen it coming Wingy, they decided to plough on and hope for the best. Now they want a month of closing everything good while keeping the crap and keeping open a big driver of infection.
And as those self same scientific experts have said it'll take longer to come down, if schools and universities remain open, that suggests more damage to the economy as a result.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Starmer knows to call for it would give Johnson a stick to beat him with where as now he's got him totally bang to rights over locking down too late.
I think he's played this right so credit where it's due.

Politically I understand, but it shouldn’t just be the teachers’ union arguing for school closure.
 

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