Evo1883
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Fair enough, however I would correctly point out that people of all races are Muslim... Therefore calling me racist would be illogical
I also wouldn't call you a name tbh
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Fair enough, however I would correctly point out that people of all races are Muslim... Therefore calling me racist would be illogical
I also wouldn't call you a name tbh
Like I said, fair play to you. (Although the fact that you claim to "1 million % disagree" when someone brings up atrocities carried out in the name of Western/Christian societies does undermine that a bit)
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I genuinely appreciate you owning the label, even if I couldn't disagree more. Most others are too cowardly to admit it, let alone embrace it.
I.....don't think that's what I said but OK
Evo1883
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Can you point me in the direction of the race that represent Muslims please mate... I'm more than happy to discuss the accusation of racism or borderline racism... So which race am I being racist towards... Thankyou
Evo1883
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Richard Dawkins... Brilliant mind... Fantastic man..... Pretty much thinks the same 
liberal minded, hates trump, believes in global warming, athiest..... Seems to have a massive problem with Islam... So much bigotry 
IsLaMoPHobE
Biggest difference between Dawkins and for example the people here, is that he's not so happy to side with the actual bigots
liberal minded, hates trump, believes in global warming, athiest..... Seems to have a massive problem with Islam... So much bigotry IsLaMoPHobE
Biggest difference between Dawkins and for example the people here, is that he's not so happy to side with the actual bigots
Evo1883
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"Progressive "
Most Muslim-majority countries and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) have opposed moves to advance LGBT rights at the United Nations, in the General Assembly or the UNHRC. In May 2016, a group of 51 Muslim majority states blocked 11 gay and transgender organizations from attending the 2016 High Level Meeting on Ending AIDS
Most Muslim-majority countries and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) have opposed moves to advance LGBT rights at the United Nations, in the General Assembly or the UNHRC. In May 2016, a group of 51 Muslim majority states blocked 11 gay and transgender organizations from attending the 2016 High Level Meeting on Ending AIDS
Grendel
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I assume when you say Tories you are referring to Tory members as opposed to voters at a general election?
How does that equate in actual numbers? I’d guess 13 times higher in the Muslim community
Would you honestly believe mosques would embrace a marriage of two gay Muslims?
Evo1883
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It has happened, but it wasn't embraced... And that's the uk... I cant imagine it happening outside of Europe or America... There is a large possibility of them being killed
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Grendel
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They are very brave that’s for sure
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Richard Dawkins... Brilliant mind... Fantastic man..... Pretty much thinks the same
IsLaMoPHobE
Biggest difference between Dawkins and for example the people here, is that he's not so happy to side with the actual bigots
Dawkins has a massive problem with religion full stop.
LastGarrison
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As do many others.
Evo1883
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As do i
Evo1883
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Dawkins
Yet, during an interview earlier this year, he condemned his fellow liberals as "cowards" over their apparent failure to condemn Islam for the way it treats certain people.
When asked whether it was possible to have a sensible conversation about Islam, Prof Dawkins explained why it had became particularly difficult for him.
He said: "People who think I'm right wing, are decent liberal people who I regard as my own - I've always been among those people.
"But I regard them as cowards because they cave in and they do not observe their principles of feminism, of gay rights, all the things that decent liberal people believe, suddenly they forget about them when it comes to Islam.
This is me right there, and what I think about the people in this thread... You sit on other threads lambasting that fat mess trump constantly for his bigoted views on everything... Yet haven't the balls to call out the most bigoted religion in the world, the religion that is most dangerous to homosexuals, to women and to children....
Now call me an IsLaMoPHobE all day every day, but don't pretend your sitting on the moral high ground.
And that's me done with this thread
Yet, during an interview earlier this year, he condemned his fellow liberals as "cowards" over their apparent failure to condemn Islam for the way it treats certain people.
When asked whether it was possible to have a sensible conversation about Islam, Prof Dawkins explained why it had became particularly difficult for him.
He said: "People who think I'm right wing, are decent liberal people who I regard as my own - I've always been among those people.
"But I regard them as cowards because they cave in and they do not observe their principles of feminism, of gay rights, all the things that decent liberal people believe, suddenly they forget about them when it comes to Islam.
This is me right there, and what I think about the people in this thread... You sit on other threads lambasting that fat mess trump constantly for his bigoted views on everything... Yet haven't the balls to call out the most bigoted religion in the world, the religion that is most dangerous to homosexuals, to women and to children....
Now call me an IsLaMoPHobE all day every day, but don't pretend your sitting on the moral high ground.
And that's me done with this thread
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Grendel
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The majority will agree with much of what you say but will not dare sat
I actually think the majority of killings in the name of Islam are just from lone crackpots to be honest who are deranged loners. It’s the acceptance of bigotry homophobia and misogyny in the name of a religion that’s unacceptable to me
Evo1883
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Otis
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As do I.
stay_up_skyblues
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Militant Islamists 'behead more than 50' in Mozambique
A football pitch in a village was turned into an "execution ground", reports say.
www.bbc.co.uk
shmmeee
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What, exactly, is “going on”?
shmmeee
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Mate. From what I can gather you just voted in a government full of racists homophobes and misogynists. No one is falling for your shit.
(awaits the “how do you know who I, a weirdo ranting about Muslims, voted for?” Shtick)
Answer the questions:
Why Islam and not Christianity?
If the religion is the problem why isn’t every follower like this? How do you propose to separate the wheat from the chaff?
Just like every prejudice it doesn’t stand up to a moments scrutiny.
And Grendel as always is talking utter shite. There is no silent majority of arseholes. Most people just crack on with their lives. Check the BSA, these views generally have been declining since before G last got a non-chemically induced chubby.
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tbf, I *think* he voted Labour!
Evo1883
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I voted Labour, its on the GE thread take a look
cheersTo answer your 2 questions.
1.Come back to me with the amount of Christian terrorist attacks, deaths in the name of Christianity and laws in Christian countries which allow the persecution and sometimes death of minorities, most notibly homosexuals and women and that act upon these laws ... Then do the same with Islam... That's your answer.
2. You already know the answer, there are moderate Muslims, that's not the argument. The problem is you think Muslims are mostly peaceful and don't hold views that oppose our way of life and modern values... Sadly you're way out
European Muslims are the HUGE minority within their own religion... Most Muslim majority countries are far more extreme in their thinking...
And even then we have alot of extremists in Europe too
3. I have already stated I don't know what the answer is
And Dawkins is correct, why are liberal minded people all of a sudden so blind to their beliefs when it comes to the often totalitarian ways of Islam.... It's frankly bizarre and very hypocritical
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Sky Blue Pete
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They’re not it’s the tarring of all Muslims as fundamentally violent and liable to terrorismI voted Labour, its on the GE thread take a look
To answer your 2 questions.
1.Come back to me with the amount of Christian terrorist attacks, deaths in the name of Christianity and laws in Christian countries which allow the persecution and sometimes death of minorities, most notibly homosexuals and women and that act upon these laws ... Then do the same with Islam... That's your answer.
2. You already know the answer, there are moderate Muslims, that's not the argument. The problem is you think Muslims are mostly peaceful and don't hold views that oppose our way of life and modern values... Sadly you're way out
European Muslims are the HUGE minority within their own religion... Most Muslim majority countries are far more extreme in their thinking...
And even then we have alot of extremists in Europe too
3. I have already stated I don't know what the answer is
And Dawkins is correct, why are liberal minded people all of a sudden so blind to their beliefs when it comes to the often totalitarian ways of Islam.... It's frankly bizarre and very hypocritical
Evo1883
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More nonsense to try and stifle the ugly truth about the religion.
I've repeatedly said moderates and hardline... So this response is of no use to the discussion
I repeat Islam is the most intolerant and dangerous of all the religions today... Stats say I'm correct... That's not debatable is it.
And if it is, you are just willfully ignoring what's happening around the world.
We're going round in circles with absolutely zero counter arguments... Just the odd bit of name calling and cliche responses
If you like I can just tow the line and say its a wonderful religion, the majority think homosexuality is fine and apostacy punishment isn't a problem, that FGM isn't a problem and that women and children aren't under the total dominance of men at all.... Then I will... Just for you lot.. Sound fair
I really don't want to participate in this debate any longer...
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fatso
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Is it religion that people dont like, or the abuse and misuse of religion by people who seek power, influence and control.
If its religion, then can someone point out to me the teachings of Jesus which they think are wrong?
And while were at it, which of the 10 commandments are no longer relevant?
If its religion, then can someone point out to me the teachings of Jesus which they think are wrong?
And while were at it, which of the 10 commandments are no longer relevant?
Evo1883
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Well it took me 3 seconds to find this and that's without searching properly... That's the bible.
fatso
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And your problem with that is?
Dont get me wrong, but where the fuck do we draw the line?
When did it become, not just tolerated, but actively and openly encouraged for a man to put his tongue, fist, cock, up another man's arse?
There are countries and cultures where under age kids are lawfully married to older men,
How long before that becomes acceptable?
How long before the legal age of concent is reduced in the uk? There are people campaigning for it now ffs.
Without moral guidance, when will it end.
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