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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Racism is not being tackled whilst we are going round in circles and arguing if this means that or calling everyone racist. It's a waste of an opportunity.

It might be petty, but there needs to be absolutely no ambiguity at all. Equality is not controversial. BLM is.

I would like to see some serious activism that sees everyone bound together as one. In my view that is how we fight it. It will also then be pretty easy to weed out the real racists and shame them.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Racism is not being tackled whilst we are going round in circles and arguing if this means that or calling everyone racist. It's a waste of an opportunity.

It might be petty, but there needs to be absolutely no ambiguity at all. Equality is not controversial. BLM is.

I would like to see some serious activism that sees everyone bound together as one. In my view that is how we fight it. It will also then be pretty easy to weed out the real racists and shame them.
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Fundamentally, I agree with you. But I disagree with some of your other tangential views, so I'm afraid all I have to say for now is BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
There is a difference between the sentence and the agenda behind it. Come on.
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The agenda that Black Lives Matter?

You do realise in refusing to accept *the Millwall players' view as to why they are kneeling* and deciding they actually mean something else, you are continuing to silence the voice of Others, and showing exactly why protest has to happen?

What is so difficult in just agreeing that, well, Black Lives Matter? Because they do... don't they?
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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The agenda that Black Lives Matter?

You do realise in refusing to accept *the Millwall players' view as to why they are kneeling* and deciding they actually mean something else, you are continuing to silence the voice of Others, and showing exactly why protest has to happen?

What is so difficult in just agreeing that, well, Black Lives Matter? Because they do... don't they?
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The idea that the lives of blacks matter is not divisive.

The organisation Black Lives Matter is divisive, and so much more.

Arguing about it is not going to combat racism either. People can say what they want and try and play it one way or another, but that organisation has been tarnished and therefore by continuing to throw weight behind it, it is wasting an opportunity. The fact that it needs defending says that something is wrong, because it is one of the only supposed 'equality' movements I have seen which generates so much animosity. It needs scrapping in change for something where there are no blurred lines and everyone can get behind it without excuse.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Racism is not being tackled whilst we are going round in circles and arguing if this means that or calling everyone racist. It's a waste of an opportunity.

It might be petty, but there needs to be absolutely no ambiguity at all. Equality is not controversial. BLM is.

I would like to see some serious activism that sees everyone bound together as one. In my view that is how we fight it. It will also then be pretty easy to weed out the real racists and shame them.
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the same support who racially abused Everton players, who racially abused Heung Min Son and Tottenham supporters long before BLM rode into town were booing Saturday.
How come they weren't weeded out previously?
 
Nick

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I caught some bloke saying it is a day and age where it's freedom of speech so people can take the knee if they want.

Not that I agree but surely that means people can boo also if they want?

Mark Warbuton saying they are still totally against discrimination but will do actions instead of token gestures.
 
Otis

Otis

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Nick said:
I caught some bloke saying it is a day and age where it's freedom of speech so people can take the knee if they want.

Not that I agree but surely that means people can boo also if they want?
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Why would you boo someone standing against discrimination and for equality though?

The Millwall statement was unequivocal.

Is it okay to boo at minute's silence for a player who has just died? 🤔
 
Otis

Otis

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Sends the wrong message doesn't it?

"We will ONLY be taking the knee as a message of equality and anti-discrimination. "

"Okay, I will boo that."
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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PSG walked of pitch when the 4th official was racist. This is exactly why players need to keep taking the knee. It’s fuck all to do with Marxist, communism or anything else, it’s to do with racist. If you don’t like seeing players take the knee get angry with the racist who seem intent on keeping taking the knee relevant instead of some imaginary bogey man.
 
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