David O'Day
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Take the knee (4 Viewers)
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Skybluefaz
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It does seem that they are letting the booing wankers win. Sounds like some players are still going to take the knee though. So the racists will still boo.
Otis
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Okay, I wasn't aware of that.
David O'Day
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Imagine telling players like Mahlon Romeo who were really cut up about the booing you value the views of racists over him one of their best players.
Horrible club, horrible fans.
Didn't they try and downplay them being caught being racist against Everton?
shmmeee
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“Silent majority”
No Darren, you’re not the majority and we wish you were fucking silent.
anthonybmasters.medium.com
No Darren, you’re not the majority and we wish you were fucking silent.
UK Polling on Black Lives Matter
What questions have British polling companies asked?
David O'Day
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“Silent majority”
No Darren, you’re not the majority and we wish you were fucking silent.
UK Polling on Black Lives Matter
What questions have British polling companies asked?
Not like Rod Liddle to be talking shite
David O'Day
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Scum fans the lot of them
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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So if the Millwall fans clap tonight when their players stand arm in arm against racism, what are you all going to say then?
chiefdave
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Nothing, same as there was no need to highlight all the grounds at the weekend where players were able to take the knee without being booed.
Its just a few seconds of staying silent or clapping, hardly deserve a medal for it.
David O'Day
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Exactly not being a c**t is hardly praiseworthy except in the minds of cunts.
David O'Day
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Yep and they are never silent and never the majority.
Skybluefaz
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You reckon your boys will observe it in that manner?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Please explain why they are my boys.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Surely though, that disproves that they were booing because they hate black people then? Rather maybe, that the message has been put across, or interpreted as something other than equal rights for all races.
I get the impression some people just want to call everyone racist because they cannot hack that there is a different opinion to them when it comes to activism.
Otis
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Millwall have a long checkered history associated with their fans though haven't they.
Skybluefaz
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Because they get upset by the phrase Black Lives Matter. Do you think they will applaud it?
Otis
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Bottom line is, this was clearly pre-arranged and then players actually came out and released a statement before the game, to say they would be taking the knee with no political agenda behind it at all and it would be only on the grounds of discrimination.
And yet the fans still booed anyway.
Why are the decent Millwall fans out there thoroughly ashamed of what happened?
And yet the fans still booed anyway.
Why are the decent Millwall fans out there thoroughly ashamed of what happened?
torchomatic
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Millwall have always had more than their fair share of racists. Anyone remember the Full Members Cup game at HR in the 80s? There was a really small crowd, around two thousand, so even fewer away fans, but you could hear the monkey chants for most of the game. Shameful.
THe club have persuaded the players to link arms tonight, not in a show of solidarity, but just to appease their racist base, as long as they don't kneel, there won't be any booing and so no negative publicity. Shameful episode.
THe club have persuaded the players to link arms tonight, not in a show of solidarity, but just to appease their racist base, as long as they don't kneel, there won't be any booing and so no negative publicity. Shameful episode.
chiefdave
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Looking at it objectively what do you think is more likely?
Scenario A
Fans of a club with a history of issues with racism, whose board were concerned enough about the potential response to their players taking a knee they issued a statement in advance stating it wasn't political and wasn't in support of BLM, were being racist when booing players taking the knee.
Scenario B
Millwall fans have a nuanced political view on 21st century Marxism, shared by large numbers of their supporters, and all decided to express that view by booing which coincidentally happened at the same time their players were making a gesture against racism.
I know which one I'd be putting my money on.
clint van damme
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yeah but the city team was full of marxists
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Pardon the pun, but it isn't as black and white as that.
Some Millwall fans are racist. Fact.
Some Millwall fans are not racist. Fact.
Many people from both categories do not agree with the divisive BLM message. Fact.
If tonight there is solidarity with the gesture, then you can be sure as shit that it is the activism and agenda of BLM which is the problem, not that everyone who booed the other day is a racist.
You cannot just force everyone to support BLM. It doesn't work like that. I know a lot of people on here don't like to admit it, but that whole campaign has been divisive as hell. Not for the right reasons either.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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What has that got to do with me? A huge amount of people have an issue with the agenda behind that. I'm just stating what a lot of people on here don't seem to be able to understand.
If it was a case of equal rights for all races and kicking out discrimination then I would seriously doubt you would get any booing.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I said in one of my first posts on this thread that their fans have a lot of scum. I'm sure some people that did boo are racists, but that isn't the point I'm trying to make. The point is that the whole BLM concept has sent race relations backwards. It hasn't united people at all.
Skybluefaz
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You understand the viewpoint of the people that boo more as you've expressed opinions that align with them on here and I'm interested to hear whether you think they will boo or not. It is a case of equal rights for all races and kicking out discrimination.
chiefdave
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How have you come to that conclusion? Millwall released a statement before the last game explicity stating they weren't taking the knee in support of BLM, something I don't think any other club had to do.
If you think the booing was for reasons other than racism you might want to take a look at the responses from their fans to that statement. Or the responses from their fans to what happened at the weekend.
David O'Day
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Why do racists always think that the majority of people think like them when all evidence says that the majority of people don't?
Nick
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Yeah but according to you everybody is pretty much racist so surely that means "your" majority do?
TomRad85
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Got to love it when that IRA loving Internet bully tries to take a moral high ground on anything. Laughable.
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shmmeee
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I’m curious how deep this seriously held issue with Marxist critique is with the Millwall fans. Do they boo fan owned clubs? Do they insist their club doesn’t accept the PL solidarity payments?
Is it all socialism? Do they boo players who set a team mate up rather than shoot? Are they only happy with wins on penalties as anything else was an affront to individualism?
Is it all socialism? Do they boo players who set a team mate up rather than shoot? Are they only happy with wins on penalties as anything else was an affront to individualism?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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BLM is not that whatsoever. It is a divisive piece of activism that has done nothing but set race relations back.
Black Lives Matter has increased racial tension, 55% say in UK poll
Organisers of BLM say findings show movement has exposed pre-existing fault lines
I suppose everyone in that poll is racist too?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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That's why they coin the term 'silent majority'. No evidence that people think like them so they just take it that there are loads of people too scared to say what they truly think and agree with the general consensus to fit in.
When the simplest and most likely explanation is that they just don't think like you.