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jimmyhillsfanclub

jimmyhillsfanclub

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
We were lucky to sneak in a week in Greece in between the travel bans so I guess the almighty will cancel something else to even it out.
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Is "the almighty" Ursula von de layens new title?

I know the EU is a corporate expansionist & imperialist project, but thats a bit much, surely...
 
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CCFCSteve

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David O'Day said:
www.theguardian.com

Holidaymakers from Great Britain barred from EU after 1 January under Covid rules

European commission indicates Britons will face ban on non-essential travel at end of Brexit transition
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Planning a trip to Spain or Greece next year?
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Looks like it depends on transmission rates. We’ve been doing the same with all EU nations since the summer anyway ?!! ie adding and removing countries from travel corridor. It says

‘EU member states can override the European council recommendations in theory, should they wish to’

So, presume any big UK tourist destinations will apply unless crazy transmission rates. In any event, if situation remains the same:

‘The Foreign Office currently advises against all nonessential travel to most of Europe, bar some holiday destinations such as certain Greek islands, and quarantine on return is required for those who choose to travel’

Typical media negative non story ! Like with all holidays, next year looks better but likely to be playing it by ear

Edit - looks like I’m late to the party with comments (stuck on a call before sending)
 
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CCFCSteve said:
Looks like it depends on transmission rates. We’ve been doing the same with all EU nations since the summer anyway ?!! ie adding and removing countries from travel corridor. It says

‘EU member states can override the European council recommendations in theory, should they wish to’

So, presume any big UK tourist destinations will apply unless crazy transmission rates. In any event, if situation remains the same:

‘The Foreign Office currently advises against all nonessential travel to most of Europe, bar some holiday destinations such as certain Greek islands, and quarantine on return is required for those who choose to travel’

Typical media negative non story ! Like with all holidays, next year looks better but likely to be playing it by ear
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Yeah tbf holidays are the least of my brexit issues tbh. it is what it is - plenty of places in this country worth visiting if it's a must, and it can't be *more* disrupted than this year for holidays, anyway!
 
chiefdave

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Nick said:
Why are the media shocked London has high rates? They had high rates anyway but were given relaxed lockdown while most other places were Tier 3.
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Of course its a shock, absolutely no way anyone could have predicted this.

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Same as nobody could have predicted numbers going up when bars & restaurants were opened, or when students were packed off to Uni, or when kids went back to school. Get ready for the 'how did this happen' when the numbers shoot up after the Christmas 'week off' from restrictions.
 
David O'Day

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CCFCSteve

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chiefdave said:
Of course its a shock, absolutely no way anyone could have predicted this.

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Same as nobody could have predicted numbers going up when bars & restaurants were opened, or when students were packed off to Uni, or when kids went back to school. Get ready for the 'how did this happen' when the numbers shoot up after the Christmas 'week off' from restrictions.
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Unfortunately it was always going to happen Dave. To be fair, I think when bars/restaurants reopened (4 July) and then hairdressers, salons etc (mid July) numbers stayed comparatively flat. Daily cases took almost a couple of months to double from around 600 to 1200. The difference then though was most people could still mingle outside. It appeared to shoot up when people returned from hols, unis/schools went back and then continued as weather worsened.

That coupled with the fact that a lot of people are now bending the rules so we’ll continue to have these spikes (and tightening of restrictions) well into next year. January is fortunately a time when people usually mix less which may help...albeit return of uni students will probably offset that benefit

I hope the message is clear for over the Christmas period. As I’ve said I think it should be each families own choice ie not illegal to meet up, but I hope people are sensible around higher risk relatives
 
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CCFCSteve

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Deleted member 5849 said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Covid in Scotland: Second wave reignited by summer holidays

A new report identifies that UK and foreign travel was the trigger for the second wave of the pandemic.
www.bbc.co.uk
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I agree NW, bloody European countries 🙄

Seriously though, as we know it’s a highly contagious, partially symptomatic virus. When we were removing countries from the travel corridors it was always going to be a few days late because of this ie transmission rates were probably higher than numbers were showing in countries (due to the lag of symptomatic carriers starting to show symptoms, getting tested etc)

Very difficult to stop especially in parts of the world where there are high levels of movement across regions (internally) and cross border ie Europe and America (across different states)
 
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