Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (213 Viewers)

David O'Day

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It should be in somebody's control, if only for reasons of public safety, even more so during a pandemic.

What can you do about returns that have no specified trains attached to them? You can't stop selling them as some people will need to make emergency essential travel.
 

Nick

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Well I already said I don’t think that’s smart, but what does it have to do with them enjoying themselves when restrictions didn’t exist? Your bitterness about London is on Alan Partridge levels, it’s hilarious.
Because they have been living the dream with lower restrictions while elsewhere has been locked down. Now they all want to fuck off elsewhere rather than stay put.

They should have just cancelled all trains.

It's hardly bitter against London, I said at the time the tier 2 stuff was madness.
 

David O'Day

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Cancel all trains? Fuck sake, so people with a legitimate reason to travel can't?

The only action that would of worked is not fucking giving people an 8 hour window to travel. Bring the statutory instrument into place and then announce. That way it becomes illegal to travel and you can stop them.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Couldn’t agree more. It’s a threat though and they shouldn’t be going to school. My mum is a teacher and got covid from school and the kids are in “bubbles” of 60 which is stupid for fuck sake.

How do they expect to take any of the restrictions seriously when there are millions of kids mixing with each other and then going home?

In a secondary school those bubbles go up to 150-200. Let’s be honest, they aren’t bubbles, they’re hundreds of households mixing before you even factor in siblings in different year groups.
 

SBT

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Because they have been living the dream with lower restrictions while elsewhere has been locked down. Now they all want to fuck off elsewhere rather than stay put.

They should have just cancelled all trains.

It's hardly bitter against London, I said at the time the tier 2 stuff was madness.

Complains incessantly about Londoners “living the dream” and spends Saturday night scrolling through random Twitter feeds looking for examples of them living life under Tier 2, but is definitely not bitter at all, wonderful stuff
 

Liquid Gold

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Schools are obviously the issue. It was nowhere to be seen over summer and as soon as schools went back things skyrocketed. They’re keeping kids in schools because they’re encouraging parents to go to work. If they’re serious about sending cases down schools should lock down like the rest of the country.
 

Great_Expectations

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The London thing is a strange one; of course they all want to get home to loved ones, and it isn’t their fault the rules changed so late in the day with little notice, it’s a question of personal responsibility again; go home to see family/friends at Christmas and potentially spread the virus further, or have a lonely (and potentially sad) Christmas but reduce the chance of spreading it. There’s definitely a resentment from the rest of the country based on things I’ve read so far.

Going from Tier 2 to Tier 4, and therefore skipping 3 is crazy, and of course will (justifiably) raise questions about their original Tier allocation.

Coupled with the perception Londoners have been living it up the last few weeks (not helped by the media) in Tier 2 while the majority of other areas haven’t, and it doesn’t mitigate the London centric idea that it’s treated differently to the rest of the country.

I don’t say that with any particular hostility, I enjoyed my time in London and I have a best friend and cousins stuck there but this is another episode that will leave a bitter taste for many.
 

Nick

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Complains incessantly about Londoners “living the dream” and spends Saturday night scrolling through random Twitter feeds looking for examples of them living life under Tier 2, but is definitely not bitter at all, wonderful stuff

Hardly spent the night, I clicked a link somebody posted and spent seconds scrolling down.

It's not really complicated or time consuming is it?
 

Great_Expectations

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Well I already said I don’t think that’s smart, but what does it have to do with them enjoying themselves when restrictions didn’t exist? Your bitterness about London is on Alan Partridge levels, it’s hilarious.

Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Schools are obviously the issue. It was nowhere to be seen over summer and as soon as schools went back things skyrocketed. They’re keeping kids in schools because they’re encouraging parents to go to work. If they’re serious about sending cases down schools should lock down like the rest of the country.

If parents can’t go to work they can supervise at home and make sure their kids do the fecking work
 

Grendel

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No, just make sure they’re joining lessons and doing the work set. As in, the stuff their teachers have spent hours making beforehand.

How do parents then earn any money?
 

wingy

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The London thing is a strange one; of course they all want to get home to loved ones, and it isn’t their fault the rules changed so late in the day with little notice, it’s a question of personal responsibility again; go home to see family/friends at Christmas and potentially spread the virus further, or have a lonely (and potentially sad) Christmas but reduce the chance of spreading it. There’s definitely a resentment from the rest of the country based on things I’ve read so far.

Going from Tier 2 to Tier 4, and therefore skipping 3 is crazy, and of course will (justifiably) raise questions about their original Tier allocation.

Coupled with the perception Londoners have been living it up the last few weeks (not helped by the media) in Tier 2 while the majority of other areas haven’t, and it doesn’t mitigate the London centric idea that it’s treated differently to the rest of the country.

I don’t say that with any particular hostility, I enjoyed my time in London and I have a best friend and cousins stuck there but this is another episode that will leave a bitter taste for many.
Alongside age,class, regional disparity has been introduced and created that I think.
 
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How do parents then earn any money?
I guess like the first lockdown, it's essential workers only. In theory you also do shorter, sharper lockdowns to depress rates, so it helps the economy either. Better the clean break to then fix, then the mangled slow Chinese water torture of economic death.
 

SBT

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Going from Tier 2 to Tier 4, and therefore skipping 3 is crazy, and of course will (justifiably) raise questions about their original Tier allocation.

Coupled with the perception Londoners have been living it up the last few weeks (not helped by the media) in Tier 2 while the majority of other areas haven’t, and it doesn’t mitigate the London centric idea that it’s treated differently to the rest of the country.

I must have imagined London going up to Tier 3 last week then!

This idea that London has been “living the dream” recently is the usual Middle England cliche bullshit propagated by people who haven’t stepped foot here in months if not years. (If what happened yesterday is the government’s idea of preferential treatment for London then I’d hate to see what a fair approach would look like). To pretend that other parts of the country wouldn’t act in the exact same way is just weird.

Most of all, it achieves nothing to waste your time resenting other parts of the country for having an easier time of it than you. Even worse if people are actively pleased to see other areas getting tougher restrictions, but some people just like to be aggrieved I guess.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Town very busy

So funny listening to a lady say she only came in to go to the entertainer and they are fuckin shut on Sunday so she’s really pissed off

Spirit of Christmas!! Lol
 

Grendel

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I guess like the first lockdown, it's essential workers only. In theory you also do shorter, sharper lockdowns to depress rates, so it helps the economy either. Better the clean break to then fix, then the mangled slow Chinese water torture of economic death.

Its not essential workers though it’s essential workers in the business

In fact what if they are both teachers?
 

Grendel

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I must have imagined London going up to Tier 3 last week then!

This idea that London has been “living the dream” recently is the usual Middle England cliche bullshit propagated by people who haven’t stepped foot here in months if not years. (If what happened yesterday is the government’s idea of preferential treatment for London then I’d hate to see what a fair approach would look like). To pretend that other parts of the country wouldn’t act in the exact same way is just weird.

Most of all, it achieves nothing to waste your time resenting other parts of the country for having an easier time of it than you. Even worse if people are actively pleased to see other areas getting tougher restrictions, but some people just like to be aggrieved I guess.

The other guy on here from London seems to take a far different view though?
 

Nick

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I must have imagined London going up to Tier 3 last week then!

This idea that London has been “living the dream” recently is the usual Middle England cliche bullshit propagated by people who haven’t stepped foot here in months if not years. (If what happened yesterday is the government’s idea of preferential treatment for London then I’d hate to see what a fair approach would look like). To pretend that other parts of the country wouldn’t act in the exact same way is just weird.

Most of all, it achieves nothing to waste your time resenting other parts of the country for having an easier time of it than you. Even worse if people are actively pleased to see other areas getting tougher restrictions, but some people just like to be aggrieved I guess.

Is it bullshit? I must have imagined those fans in the arena watching boxing and tens of thousands scrambling to do Christmas Shopping?

It should never have been Tier 2, hence they are now banging on about this new strain that is the reason for the outbreak and obviously nothing to do with this:

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Then all trying to jump when they are told to stay in...
 

Grendel

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Most will not be going in. If both really must still go in the emergency provision will be there as it was last time.

Most will be going in other than certain office workers. All manufacturing is now 100% functioning. Supermarkets, shops, transport, take away hospitality and any offices that require office presence including accountants. Also oddly if people are working from home they are not supposed to be supervising children all day but actually working
 

Grendel

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I know all about it, I was working all day and then being a teacher in the evening and weekends...

Hence I would rather have been at work 24/7 than having to be a teacher too.

Did you get paid more?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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This is the mistake people are still making after last time.

It isn't just Doctors and Nurses who have to go to work.

My argument is that schools are peak transmitters so if your child’s bubble is compromised there’s a good chance their parents will get it also.
 

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