The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (53 Viewers)
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clint van damme
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I'd never heard of it until today when one was on the radio, said his business was going to be in trouble after this as nearly all his trade is with the EU but other potato seed farmers did more custom in Africa, Egypt a particularly big customer apparently.
Liquid Gold
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Can it be wearing a jacket and a Union Jack waistcoat?
shmmeee
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Get over it,Move on with your life cheer up ffs!!
Get over what? This is happening right now.
David O'Day
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He seems to think that you can't be both happy there's a deal and still point to parts of it where it could be frankly shit.
David O'Day
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just below the 3 lions tat that looks more like 3 cats
Yeah, 100% agree. Unfortunately it’s such a polarising subject that the here will no doubt be a slant on whatever is written about the deal.
I also think it will probably take time to see a number of the pros and cons of the deal, for example level playing field, we will only know when either side diverges
As it won’t deliver either extreme we all know it won’t be the end of of it for some...Farage will want a ‘Brexit means Brexit’ party and Major/Campbell/Heseltine will hope for a ‘Rejoin the EU and let’s have the Euro whilst we’re at it’ party.
I’m just relieved a deal is finally done and we as a country can hopefully move forward. If we fuck things up we’ve only not got ourselves to blame
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We'll find somebody else to, never fear
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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More detail will need to come out, but on face value this looks pretty good.
Now let's just get rid of this fucking virus and SBT can be about football again!
Now let's just get rid of this fucking virus and SBT can be about football again!
David O'Day
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A big reason it is a shit deal
Who knows... I think Lionel is probably right though, the City is a big enough beast to look after themselves.
I was reading the other day that whilst a fair few banks have set up additional operations in Europe and ridiculous amount of assets under management have been moved (percentage wise still not that big), since 2016 all have hired more UK employees rather than reducing UK operations
London retains finance jobs as Brexit fails to deliver blow to the City - CityAM
Again, let’s see how things pan out though
rob9872
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Not quite sure what people want or expect. I don't pretend to understand the finer points of it, I doubt many if any of us do, but surely whatever your standpoint on leave or remain, then we now have a deal. Many thought we'd exit without one and whilst I doubt it's perfect (for either side) it's something that means we'll notice very little change day to day.
You could therefore argue why bother? But we are where we are and I think that's been done to death over the last 4 years. Surely now we all need to give it our best chance, not for any political reasons but for the future of the country at arguably its lowest economical ebb through Covid, so hopefully all parties will unite behind the deal, but I doubt they will when there's plenty of cheap point scoring to go after.
You could therefore argue why bother? But we are where we are and I think that's been done to death over the last 4 years. Surely now we all need to give it our best chance, not for any political reasons but for the future of the country at arguably its lowest economical ebb through Covid, so hopefully all parties will unite behind the deal, but I doubt they will when there's plenty of cheap point scoring to go after.
Sick Boy
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Those who are most likely to be opposed to it are members of the Tories themselves.
Skybluefaz
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It's definitely good to have a deal we can move forward from.
Grendel
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Only one I’ve heard frothing is the old dog strangler
clint van damme
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I've no doubt that as more detail emerges I will be of the opinion the deal is shit. However, we'll be out of the seemingly endless limbo of Brexit negotiations, hopefully the vaccination programs will be a resounding success and we can all start moving forward and getting on with life.
I'm actually feeling a bit optimistic about next year.
Sick Boy
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Give it time....
clint van damme
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Just saw the interview with Andrew Field on Sky. Fuck me these fuckers are thick as mince. It's hilarious.
Astute
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Would be an absolute waste of time on here. For the last few years it has been the same day after day.
Anti brexit? Only look for the bad news and ignore everything else. Rubbish anything that could be seen as good news.
Brexit supporters? Only look for the good news and ignore/try to rubbish the bad news.
So who could honestly say this will change?
Those of us that have looked at this without bias.....only a few of us......have called most things right. This includes a last minute deal which was always obvious but rubbished until the very end.
The negotiations haven't ended. They have just started. They will continue for years. What I do see is us being pulled back closer to the EU over the years. Pay money into the system. Preference given to those in the EU who want to move to the UK.
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tisza
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Think it's almost inevitable in time. Plus UK position will change from UK govt to UK govt.
Also going to be a period where EU is watching UK to see how it behaves before the hackles go down and things smooth out. Proviso will always remain that they don't want to create a situation where leaving the EU isn't an unattractive proposition for other member states.
EU has its own internal issues to sort out. Still an ongoing conflict about how unity is achieved. Those that believe focussing more decision-making and control in Brussels vs. those opposed to that. Brexit has temporarily unified EU but the pre-brexit issues haven't gone away.
clint van damme
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It's Christmas morning and hopefully the thing that happened 4 years ago is now settled. Life is too short; my advice FWIW is to forget this now and move on. I hope this thread is now finally allowed to die.
Happy Christmas everyone.
Absolutely no chance this thread dies!! Will probably be even more active as details emerge.
But totally agree, it's done at last. We can deal with what ever it throws up and move on.
Imagine what the referendum to rejoin will be like!?
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Nope. Government has to own it, for better... or worse.It's Christmas morning and hopefully the thing that happened 4 years ago is now settled. Life is too short; my advice FWIW is to forget this now and move on. I hope this thread is now finally allowed to die.
Happy Christmas everyone.
But it is Christmas, and even I have better things to do than debate the nuance today, of all days!
Merry Christmas.
Grendel
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We can safely say there will never be a referendum to rejoin
Ian1779
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We can agree on that - in the future we will be merely assimilated.
Grendel
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Most people’s lives will be hardly touched by it and people in the future will be more likely to ask why did we join at all
clint van damme
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tisza
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The Volt party. Sadly their spokesman's opening statement was what people will miss most was for British holidaymakers to be able to take their dogs with them on holidays to EU countries.
Grendel
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Indeed it has. Alistair and I’m sure his lapdog and classic snout in EU trough advocates Blair and Clegg will be along soon. Has Femi joined in yet?
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Selective editing there - it's not their most important concern. From their spokesperson:
"Most of all, when we order Italian wine, we expect it to be Italian. When Italians buy our kippers, they expect them to be from the Isle of Man, what will happen to our food? Britain is a food-loving nation and that seems to have been forgotten. "
clint van damme
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Same people who think we should all forget about the Iraq war aren't letting go of this
Sick Boy
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Nevermind, there’s always spam fritters.
fernandopartridge
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They delivered the closest thing to a hard Brexit with their insistence on remain. Childish idiots.
Anyway, let's draw a line under it and move on now. The (Conservative) government by their own sales pitch is now fully accountable for every single law in this country.