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fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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Saddlebrains said:
Just read an article from a doctor stating that we won't have normality for another year. Her reasoning being it will take 50 weeks to vaccinate 50 million people.


However, correct me if im talking shit, but surely we dont need to vaccinate anywhere near the whole population before we can attempt normality? You would have thought that as long as the elderly, vulnerable, asthmatics etc have been immunised, that will stop the deaths and hospitalisations?

And thats the whole point isnt it? We're stuck with the virus its now endemic. We just need to make sure the vulnerable are vaccinated while the rest of us either do or dont have it?
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There are 60.5m people in England registered with a GP practice. Circa 22.5% are over 60 years of age so 13.6m plus any under 60s in the priority list.

800k vaccinated as at 24th December in just over two weeks. Going to need to up the ante to get through that lot by April.
 
hill83

hill83

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fernandopartridge said:
There are 60.5m people in England registered with a GP practice. Circa 22.5% are over 60 years of age so 13.6m plus any under 60s in the priority list.

800k vaccinated as at 24th December in just over two weeks. Going to need to up the ante to get through that lot by April.
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Oxford/AZ vaccine will definitely speed things up massively. Purely on logistics and storage alone.
 
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Kieranp96

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fernandopartridge said:
There are 60.5m people in England registered with a GP practice. Circa 22.5% are over 60 years of age so 13.6m plus any under 60s in the priority list.

800k vaccinated as at 24th December in just over two weeks. Going to need to up the ante to get through that lot by April.
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Only going slow due to the current vaccines requirements.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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fernandopartridge said:
There are 60.5m people in England registered with a GP practice. Circa 22.5% are over 60 years of age so 13.6m plus any under 60s in the priority list.

800k vaccinated as at 24th December in just over two weeks. Going to need to up the ante to get through that lot by April.
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Govt identified 15 million in total needing the vaccine to effectively eliminate hospitalisations. Confident it will be done
 
chiefdave

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Govt identified 15 million in total needing the vaccine to effectively eliminate hospitalisations. Confident it will be done
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The NHS rollout plan has capacity for one million a week subject to supply. The plan itself is detailed down to the last second. It has those administering the vaccinations working in teams of two so as not to lose time while PPE is being changed between patients. It even details having a separate queue for the likes of those with mobility issues to avoid slowing things down.

If we can achieve anywhere near those numbers then Easter seems realistic to start getting back to normal. Won't be a sudden flip back to 'normal' as some people seem to be expecting though so some expectation management is needed, certainly not helped when Johnson and co fire out comments off the cuff.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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chiefdave said:
The NHS rollout plan has capacity for one million a week subject to supply. The plan itself is detailed down to the last second. It has those administering the vaccinations working in teams of two so as not to lose time while PPE is being changed between patients. It even details having a separate queue for the likes of those with mobility issues to avoid slowing things down.

If we can achieve anywhere near those numbers then easter seems realistic to start getting back to normal. Won't be a sudden flip back to 'normal' as some people seem to be expecting though so some expectation management is needed, certainly not helped when Johnson and co fire out comments off the cuff.
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Of course but it is a huge step forward from where we were a few months ago. Even if it might not be entirely normal by then it's still breaking the back of it.
 
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Have to admit, being just the wrong side of the arbitrary line of 50, and not having high enough blood pressure to be clinically vulnerable, but high enough to have underlying health issues if I were to appear on the death stats, I'm not overly looking forward to being expected to fend for myself...
 
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Have to admit, being just the wrong side of the arbitrary line of 50, and not having high enough blood pressure to be clinically vulnerable, but high enough to have underlying health issues if I were to appear on the death stats, I'm not overly looking forward to being expected to fend for myself...
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I'm assuming once the 9 priority groups are done they will release the ones subsequent to that.
 
hill83

hill83

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fernandopartridge said:
Sorry 800k vaccines = 800k people half vaccinated to date. What's the gap between 1st and 2nd dose on AZ?
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Not sure. Think it’s similar to the Pfizer one.
It’s all ready to go though. The trigger has been pulled for a few weeks. (Storage/Logistics etc)

Not saying it will be the pace the government are saying but I’m confident it’ll be up there.
 
stupot07

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fernandopartridge said:
There are 60.5m people in England registered with a GP practice. Circa 22.5% are over 60 years of age so 13.6m plus any under 60s in the priority list.

800k vaccinated as at 24th December in just over two weeks. Going to need to up the ante to get through that lot by April.
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Add to that the the 800k will need second dose from early January, so there's 800k vaccination appointments taken up in January before you even think about rolling out to new people.

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hill83

hill83

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stupot07 said:
Add to that the the 800k will need second dose from early January, so there's 800k vaccination appointments taken up in January before you even think about rolling out to new people.

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This is where ease of storage with the AZ one comes in. Infinitely more places the vaccinations can take place.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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fernandopartridge said:
Sorry 800k vaccines = 800k people half vaccinated to date. What's the gap between 1st and 2nd dose on AZ?
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it's a month, but the advantages are that it doesn't need to be stored at temperatures any where near as low as the Pfizer one which makes it easier to distribute and store.
It's also more effective after one dose than Pfizer though Pfizer is more effective after both doses have been given.

Astra zeneca is 70% effective Pfizer is 90 something percent after both doses.
 
David O'Day

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hill83 said:
Not sure. Think it’s similar to the Pfizer one.
It’s all ready to go though. The trigger has been pulled for a few weeks. (Storage/Logistics etc)

Not saying it will be the pace the government are saying but I’m confident it’ll be up there.
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Yeah the AZ is far far easier for them to take out to the community and give.

It will speedup the pace of vaccination.
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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clint van damme said:
it's a month, but the advantages are that it doesn't need to be stored at temperatures any where near as low as the Pfizer one which makes it easier to distribute and store.
It's also more effective after one dose than Pfizer though Pfizer is more effective after both doses have been given.

Astra zeneca is 70% effective Pfizer is 90 something percent after both doses.
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AZ are saying it's 95% effective after more testing.
 
stupot07

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hill83 said:
This is where ease of storage with the AZ one comes in. Infinitely more places the vaccinations can take place.
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I agree, I still can't see us getting anywhere near normality until April/May time, and we don't know the long term efficacy of the vaccination. Will it be like Flu and require an annual jab?

There is light at the end of the tunnel, but everyone needs to hold their nerve and stick to the rules, and we will probably need at least one more full lockdown before we're out of it.

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hill83

hill83

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Wouldn’t surprise me seeing drive through vaccines being done in the same places testing is being done. We have drive through flu vaccinations at work.
 
hill83

hill83

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stupot07 said:
I agree, I still can't see us getting anywhere near normality until April/May time, and we don't know the long term efficacy of the vaccination. Will it be like Flu and require an annual jab?

There is light at the end of the tunnel, but everyone needs to hold their nerve and stick to the rules, and we will probably need at least one more full lockdown before we're out of it.

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Yeah I completely agree. Right now for the long term is the most confident I’ve been though.
 
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