Brighton Sky Blue
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The extreme storage conditions for the Pfizer vaccine were always going to be a challenge and lead to cock ups. The Oxford one is the game changer for what should ultimately be a global vaccination effort.
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The extreme storage conditions for the Pfizer vaccine were always going to be a challenge and lead to cock ups. The Oxford one is the game changer for what should ultimately be a global vaccination effort.
Its also the one chance the governments got to pull their own arses out the fire so it would be crazy for them not to be throwing everything available at this (so not sure why people would suggest otherwise)
There will no doubt be some issues, errors, delays (especially with disruption of a lot of people in supply/delivery potentially getting covid !) etc which will always happen with a logistical exercise of this magnitude but got to give them a chance and if they can get to anywhere around 2m per week in a couple of weeks time, I’ll take that
ps just got to keep on eye on hancock, if we’re behind target he’ll probably start popping some in the post and adding them to the total
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Wyken Sky Blue
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Round the clock vaccinations is the best chance of hitting the 2m a week mark.
Appreciate there may be logistical issues initially but we should be able to drive this approach surely?
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Appreciate there may be logistical issues initially but we should be able to drive this approach surely?
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jimmyhillsfanclub
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Brighton Sky Blue
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You just need 3 main things:
1. Enough vaccine supply
2. Enough staff to administer it at the rate needed
3. Enough vaccination centres within easy reach of the population
Sky Blue Pete
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Why?
Skybluefaz
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I feel like it might have been worth trying the open source one before sinking the 12 billion in to the one we ended up with.
fernandopartridge
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Just a straightforward heist
hill83
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fernandopartridge
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it's the pint in a Soho strip club of the tracing app world
hill83
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That’s what I mean. I’ve no idea if you are joking or not.
We'll_live_and_die
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Jab em while they sleep.
But seriously key workers, younger oaps etc would be happy to get somewhere at 3am to get over this virus.
My mid 70s parents really want to cuddle their grandkids and would have no qualms going to the docs in the middle of the night to do so.
Sky Blue Pete
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How much credit does Chris Whitty need for working shifts in hospital at Christmas. Others too but how brilliant
LastGarrison
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Most old people, well if my Old Man is anything to go by, are up from about 5am anyway aren't they?
fernandopartridge
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Neither do I really. No idea how it breaks down or what it includes.
We'll_live_and_die
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True and they normally stay up till midnight thanks to all the daytime naps.
They always get up in the middle of the night for the loo too.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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I know randox have had atleast 500m. That's the randox that was involved in all the dodgy drug driving conviction scandals a few years back....the same randox who sponsor major jockey club events....thats the jockey club that dido Harding and her hubby are on the board of....and based in newmarket....where Matt Hancock is mp.
I know serco have had atleast 500m. Thats the serco of tagging scandals and investigated by the serious fraud office.
Deloitte's are reckoned to have trousered a similar 500m for overseeing the initial outsourcing.
It gets too depressing adding it all up.
Thieving cunts the lot of em.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Guess the idea of putting some of these characters on trial afterwards doesn't sound so crazy
Ian1779
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Harding’s husband is an MP or a peer isn’t he?
clint van damme
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Think he's head of some sort of standards comittee so if you complain about Harding it's her husband who'd deal with it.
But let's be honest, why shouldn't they? The same reactionary daily mail cunts who'd lock someone up for life for possession if a bit of weed are quite happy to sit on their hand while this lot Rob them blind.
If they 3ver do a proper deep dive independent enquiry into where all the money's gone during this pandemic the next Tory conference will be held in Pentonville.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It would do what Boris should have done ages ago...get lost
David O'Day
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UHCW are advertising for "Vaccinators" salary doesn't seem that high considering some of the list of qualifications they have given people such as dentists who have offered to help out/
jobs.uhcw.nhs.uk
University Hospitals Coventry & Warwickshire
jobs.uhcw.nhs.uk
clint van damme
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UHCW are advertising for "Vaccinators" salary doesn't seem that high considering some of the list of qualifications they have given people such as dentists who have offered to help out/
University Hospitals Coventry & Warwickshire
As was dentist who offered to help out quipped on Twitter the other day, I can vaccinate 60 patients a day in my current job and that's with them trying to bite me.
Haven’t got a clue how they came to that figure, how much of it’s been spent (or whether it will even end being higher - I bet it will be !).They reckon a majority of the 12bn provision will be spent on testing (article below). Did just check and 54m tests have been carried out to date. Not like for like comparison but private tests are around £150 I think
No, contact tracing doesn’t cost £10,000 per contact - Full Fact
The claim made by Independent SAGE is based on the £12 billion cost of the test and trace programme, which is mostly testing not tracing.
fullfact.org
The manual tracing side just hasn’t ever seemed that worthwhile to me, especially after the app was set up. Maybe when you’re dealing with lower case numbers, where you can really suppress transmission but how the fuck are they dealing with 50k+ of cases and connected parties every day ?!!! No chance. They were employing 18k tracers (which I think got reduced to 12k) so kept a few off the dole at least. I’d have them working on the vaccine roll out instead...hopefully with more success !!!
ps reading the article looks like serco (main test and trace contract) profits likely to have increased on the back of it. deserved, probably not, but if the articles correct it’s not like their running off the billions - not to say they’ve earned/deserved the cash from contracts by the way, just a lot of their income would go straight back out on tracers/testing site salaries I bet
‘Grim beyond belief’: Serco profits to surge as test and trace records worst ever week
Outsourcing firm expects bumper revenues as Covid-19 case numbers surge and millions of people face tougher lockdown conditions that threaten thousands of jobs
www.google.co.uk
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fernandopartridge
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It's just embarrassing isn't it, govt not even willing to properly fund a vaccination programme so wedded as they are to austerityUHCW are advertising for "Vaccinators" salary doesn't seem that high considering some of the list of qualifications they have given people such as dentists who have offered to help out/
University Hospitals Coventry & Warwickshire
I mean ffs even paying the cost of your own DBS check. What the fucking fuck is that all about?
David O'Day
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Basically they are offering contact centre level wages which for such a vital role is shocking
Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s assuming goodwill will spur people to do it anyway, which they probably will
David O'Day
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Not sure they will. As FP said you have to pay for your own DBS check which most people will think fuck that as it's an up front cost
Brighton Sky Blue
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We’ll see, but think many retired medical professionals have already made the offer. Complaining less about the pay and more about the paperwork they’re being asked for
David O'Day
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yes but they are offering as part time volunteers, you need loads more people than just them
Brighton Sky Blue
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Meanwhile in the USA...a mess of Trumpian proportions
Brylowes
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Maybe the Government could stipulate that anyone volunteerring to help with the vaccination program will receive the vaccine themselves as part of the programme, would safeguard against unnecessary disruption to the rollout programme, suppress the spread from another potential angle and may even act as another way of enticing people to volunteer.
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There's a terrible Ryanair advert. Vaccines are coming, so jab and go!
Nick
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I have no idea why people would be booking holidays now anyway for this year, seems a bit crazy really.