Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (229 Viewers)

[SBT]

Complaining about it?

Try again. Asking the question on why we are told that we must stay at home unless we have no choice but to go out. But places are open for us to visit where it isn't essential to visit. Travelling to have a McDonald's or KFC isn't essential. It is want not need.

Yet you make out you can't see the contradiction in the rules people take advantage of.

I'll let Chris Whitty say it, because he put it better than me:

"If we keep on looking for someone else's problem as to why this is not going to get better, then we are missing the point. We all have to say what is it in our own lives to do to minimise the impact on the NHS."

He was justifying why football is still being played, as it happens. The point remains - if you don't want to go to KFC, then don't. But don't make out like that small issue is the big reason why the current system is a shambles. Chris Whitty doesn't seem to think coffee shops are the problem, for example. If you do, you're choosing to distract yourself.

 

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[Skybluefaz]

I'll let Chris Whitty say it, because he put it better than me:



He was justifying why football is still being played, as it happens. The point remains - if you don't want to go to KFC, then don't. But don't make out like that small issue is the big reason why the current system is a shambles. Chris Whitty doesn't seem to think coffee shops are the problem, for example. If you do, you're choosing to distract yourself.

Why wouldn't you want to go to KFC?

 

[Bugsy]

Why wouldn't you want to go to KFC?

why would you want to go KFC. absoulte awful chicken rather go and and get me a half roast from the chippy

 

[Skybluefaz]

why would you want to go KFC. absoulte awful chicken rather go and and get me a half roast from the chippy

Hot wings 4 life #chippywanker

 

[tisza]

It seems very hard for people in the UK to imagine what a curfew is like. Many still think it is their right to do what they like as long as they can make out it is within the rules set.

Social pressure here combined with it being far more normal to have an elderly relative living in the family home. Plus police here rarely do warnings - on the spot fines or it's the courts for more flagrant violations. Plus people far more aware/considerate of the pressure it puts on a limited health service.

 

[SBT]

KFC used to be my hangover food of choice, for those moments when you've given up on ever having a functioning body again. Been ages though.

 

[David O'Day]

Hot wings 4 life #chippywanker

roast chicken is really bland as well

#KFCZingerTower4Lyfe

 

[Skybluefaz]

Bringing it back on track, mcdonald's and KFC etc were closed last March during the lockdown weren't they? Eradicating the choice for people to go out and collect from there.

 

[David O'Day]

Bringing it back on track, mcdonald's and KFC etc were closed last March during the lockdown weren't they? Eradicating the choice for people to go out and collect from there.

yeah they were deffo at the start anyway

 

[David O'Day]

but they closed to a big fanfare creating loads of super spreader events as people queued up to get their food.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Bringing it back on track, mcdonald's and KFC etc were closed last March during the lockdown weren't they? Eradicating the choice for people to go out and collect from there.

Were McDonald's ordered to close, or did they choose to?

 

[Sick Boy]

Where is 'here'? Has it been effective?

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Italy - there’s one from 22:00 - 5am.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Were McDonald's ordered to close, or did they choose to?

They probably chose to. Can't remember for certain.

 

[David O'Day]

They probably chose to. Can't remember for certain.

i think they chose to yeah

 

[Grendel]

Are you saying that their infection rate has ever been as high as ours is now?

I’m saying your statement regarding Italy was inaccurate - I don’t know what our infection rate is

 

[Grendel]

Were McDonald's ordered to close, or did they choose to?

chose to

 

[SBT]

Looks like the United States has got this under control

 

[tisza]

Looks like the United States has got this under control

redneck Republican central

 

[Astute]

I’m saying your statement regarding Italy was inaccurate - I don’t know what our infection rate is

So you know the rate is in Italy is yet not the rate in the UK....but still look to create an argument on the matter.

 

[hill83]

So you know the rate is in Italy is yet not the rate in the UK....but still look to create an argument on the matter.

The pair of you are as bad as each other. Get a room ffs ha ha

 

[Astute]

I'll let Chris Whitty say it, because he put it better than me:



He was justifying why football is still being played, as it happens. The point remains - if you don't want to go to KFC, then don't. But don't make out like that small issue is the big reason why the current system is a shambles. Chris Whitty doesn't seem to think coffee shops are the problem, for example. If you do, you're choosing to distract yourself.

How about getting back to what I actually said and not making things up.

How are we supposed to be able to go to KFC when we are only supposed to leave where we live for essential reasons. And a trip to KFC isn't essential like you say it is.

 

[Astute]

The pair of you are as bad as each other. Get a room ffs ha ha

Bad as each other? You couldn't insult me more if you tried.

 

[hill83]

Bad as each other? You couldn't insult me more if you tried.

I mean, I am as well so I know what I’m seeing.

 

[David O'Day]

To end this argument as of yesterday the UK case rate was 593.2 per 100k

UKHSA data dashboard

Overall summary of the respiratory viruses in circulation within the UK

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

 

[chiefdave]

But isn't it a contradiction to say we can only leave our house for something essential but we can go out and get a takeaway?

Who said the rules are meaningless? The problem isn't the majority who stick to them. It is the minority who look for a way to break them.

The problem is people haven't grasped that we're not pursuing a so called zero-covid strategy so the argument why can't I do x when you can do y doesn't work. They aren't being compared in that way, its keeping the overall level below what is deemed too much for the NHS, simple as that.

Completely agree about people not sticking to the rules. Was baffling to see MPs yesterday talking of bringing in stricter restrictions as people aren't keeping to the ones currently in place. What makes them think people who are currently ignoring them will suddenly change and do as they are told?

 

[Saddlebrains]

Not much, but some good news for once.

The 7 day average of the number of cases by report date has fallen for the first time since the end of November.

Seems as a few on here thought, with it being almost 3 weeks since xmas, the cases themselves starting to fall.

Lets hope this carries on. Long way to go until that effects deaths, but hopefully hospitalisations at least start slowing soon

 

[Grendel]

So you know the rate is in Italy is yet not the rate in the UK....but still look to create an argument on the matter.

No I don’t know either way but was just correcting you on the facts that more people died in December in Italy than the prior peak - I also asked what was meant by “the rate”

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not much, but some good news for once.

The 7 day average of the number of cases by report date has fallen for the first time since the end of November.

Seems as a few on here thought, with it being almost 3 weeks since xmas, the cases themselves starting to fall.

Lets hope this carries on. Long way to go until that effects deaths, but hopefully hospitalisations at least start slowing soon

Would love to hear regular vaccination statistics to keep the light at the end of the tunnel in sight.

 

[SBT]

Would love to hear regular vaccination statistics to keep the light at the end of the tunnel in sight.

I only learned this today, but they actually do update these numbers daily! Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I only learned this today, but they actually do update these numbers daily! Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

Easy to miss that, but great to see over 2.4 million already. Thank you for linking

 

[fernandopartridge]

45k reported cases today, the cases by specimen date have not yet got to the 81k level so hopefully growth slowing / plateauing now

 

[CCFCSteve]

Easy to miss that, but great to see over 2.4 million already. Thank you for linking

Yeah, I keep hearing different numbers being mentioned (think some people are adding first and second doses together). Great news that 400k of those have even had a second dose. Fingers crossed with those new hubs up and running daily dose numbers will continue to increase (subject to batch checked stock I’d imagine)

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah, I keep hearing different numbers being mentioned (think some people are adding first and second doses together). Great news that 400k of those have even had a second dose. Fingers crossed with those new hubs up and running daily dose numbers will continue to increase (subject to batch checked stock I’d imagine)

My grandmother who is 86 next month hasn’t had an invite yet as far as I know, not sure why. But the national picture obviously looking good

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Getting really pissed off with people saying it’s only old people and those that would have died anyway dying. Ffs

 

[CCFCSteve]

My grandmother who is 86 next month hasn’t had an invite yet as far as I know, not sure why. But the national picture obviously looking good

Hopefully soon BSB. Assuming things go ok she should be done by the end of next week I’d have thought (there’s about 4.5m in top three groups - care home residents, care home workers and over 80s)