Everyone still confident ? (13 Viewers)
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cc84cov
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David O'Day
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Is another thing that's said to you. If you have a "why do you have a micro penis" gif that'll be the hat trick.
As someone else pointed out to you why do you have every different opinion within the space of a single day? It's a weird flex
cc84cov
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David O'Day
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“Weird flex”
So you are not going to answer and just act like a 9th rate Hill wannabe?
Ok stumpy.
cc84cov
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Mate your an emembarrassment with cringeworthy comments like “weird flex” you soft prat
David O'Day
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Mate your an emembarrassment with cringeworthy comments like “weird flex” you soft prat
The irony in ending that statement with "soft prat" is clearly lost on you.
Going to answer the question?
Otis
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That's the type of guy he is.
Speedies_Chips
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What you see is what you get.
Greggs
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I've been ignoring that clown for a long time, might unblock him and get on some weird flex too hahaha“Weird flex”
cc84cov
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Johhny Blue
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Can’t play him if he’s carrying an injury
You only get match fit playing matches, if ain’t fit don’t put him on the bench.
What concerned me against Luton was how nervous we seemed from the start. Wycombe have to win pretty much every game if they have any remote chance so they will throw everything at us. If we start with the same nerves as Tuesday we are going to be in serious trouble. With no dominant keeper and without McFadzean we are relying heavily on Ostigard to deal with the long ball. We need the likes of Kelly and Hamer to re-establish their earlier form. Although Rotherham will have a crowded schedule it could work in their favour when they know it's all or nothing. If we can keep our composure and get the 3 points it will massive.
cov donkey kick
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Robins has played tomorrow down as 1 of 10 big ones, but me I think this Wycombe game is huge as I'm sure we all do, I think we need to produce the in there face of the Brentford game as city look so different against the top 8 teams the opposite of the bottom 8 teams where we if in the lead we look less secure against the bottom teams it's wierd. So effort wise same level as Brentford for the whole game and we will get a priceless 3 pionts. Pusb
Frostie
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I don't think it's a lack of effort.
We had a gameplan to press Brentford as they're obsessed with playing out from the back & won't deviate from that tactic as they back themselves to play through the press & instead played right into our hands.
The likes of Wycombe don't play that way so it wouldn't be as effective.
Otis
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Wycombe will go longer. Stockdale's kicking will be a bit of a threat too. Watching on Tuesday and he was going long and kicking it a very low trajectory, out to the flanks.
It's the pace that concerns me the most today.
Legia Sky Blue
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The high press is pointless against Wycombe on past evidence, as they don't piss around at the back and their sole attacking ploy has been for the goalkeeper to launch it forward and then try to get their midfield runners to win the 2nd ball and go from there. Interesting to read Otis' comments about the keeper kicking it wide though rather than the previous method of just aiming for Akinfenwa. Dabo will need to be on his defensive game if they do play that way. We've normally beaten them before by frustrating them by retaining possession by playing keep ball for long periods and by the effective use of our wing backs as an attacking force. We need Dabo & McCallum to be much more involved in our play than the last few games. We have also normally blunted the effectiveness of Akinfenwa by having a midfielder in front of him, boxing him in with the centre half behind him, so I would anticipate the same today regardless of whether its Akinfenwa or a replacement. For that reason I can see Sheaf coming in, given his extra height.
Otis
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Yup, this is why I don't think a draw will be a disaster. I know it is being labelled as a must win by so many, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if everyone below us blows it and loses, therefore us gaining a point.
I just think Wycombe will be tougher than many imagine.
Let's hope Godden makes a huge difference. If he can hit the ground running, we should be scoring a lot more goals from now on in.
hill83
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Don’t know if I’m offended or not to be honest.
David O'Day
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Frostie
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100% this.
I predict the meltdown will begin the second the team is announced. Whether it's Shipley starting, 1 up front, keeping the back 3 or whatever.
You're right about them kicking to the channels too. This is where McCallum is usually very good, for a full back/wing back he's physically very capable. Less so Dabo on the other side naturally so interesting to see if they target him.
Ikpeazu up front is an absolute monster too. Pace, power, aggression. He's not really got the consistent quality for this level but the way he applies himself is the way I hoped Baka would if he knew how to use his skillset properly. Baka has similar attributes plus a lot more quality but seemingly no idea how to put it all together on a consistent basis.
They've previously struggled to contain our box formation & I'd be tempted to go similar again today.
play_in_skyblue_stripes
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Studying relegation targets was a regular thing of mine for many , many, many years when Coventry were in top flight.
So thought I would look at Rotherham list of games and come up with a view on what might happen overall it has ended up being a long post.
Rotherham fixtures are NOT that daunting in my view with so many in Yorkshire
Sat 20 March Bristol City A - Bristol very unpredictable
Fri 02 April Millwall A - Classic middle of table going nowhere club. OK never an easy place to play but 13 days for Rotherham covid
struck players to recover
Mon 05 April Wycombe H - Very likely win here for Rotherham and start of a big run of games solely in Yorkshire
Sat 10 April Huddersfield A - Tough game , likely both teams would be happy with a draw
Tue 13 April QPR H - Playing a team already it seems perhaps on their holiday. Likely win or draw
Sat 17 April Birmingham H - Vital game - too hard to predict
Wed 21 April Middlesboro H - Not an easy game but not that daunting. Its still a home midweek match which is an advantage
Sat 24 April Barnsley A - Tough game at 'Sky Reds' . Its a south Yorkshire Derby, a draw a definite possibility which would be ok for both
Tue 27 April Brentford A - Very tough game and likely defeat
Sat 01 May Blackburn H - Another game against a middle of table going nowhere club but can be Blackburn can be useful. Tricky to
predict but Rotherham wont be quaking in their boots for this one
Tue 04 May Luton A - Depends on Luton mentality on this one.
Sat 08 May Cardiff A - Not an easy place to go generally and a very tricky last game for Rotherham
Unknown Coventry H - Vital game but will fancy their chances big time if they can score first and will also be a midweek game
Looking at this schedule to me at least, highlights a lot of games but a massive chunk in Yorkshire (8 of 13) . I expect they would be happy to get a point or perhaps 2 in next two away games and than put massive effort from 5th April to 24th April. Coventry should aim to play them on Thu April 29 and move Huddersfield away a day back to to Sunday 02 as Rotherham in London on prior Tuesday night .
By avoiding playing Coventry when so many players were ill and not fit, may have been 'engineered' NOT to happen. Vast bulk of games now will be tough but after Easter and with international break beforehand there is big chance to for players to get fit and have 4 out of 5 games at home. If they squeeze Coventry game in that period it would be 5 out of 6.
My estimate for them is 19 points and that's 51 overall. Can the Sky Blues match 51?
A quick summary on race to match that predicted 51 points for Rotherham
Huddersfield - need 9 form 9 games - fairly easy statistically as they current average about a point a game over season
Nottm F - need 10 from 9 games - fairly easy statistically as they current average about a point a game over season
Derby - need 11 from 9 games - not too difficult
Coventry - need 13 from 10 games not too difficult
Birmingham - need 13 from 9 games - not easy but definitely do-able although they have a tough run in
Rotherham - need 19 from 13 games as discussed
Sheff W - need 22 from 10 games - very unlikely
Wycombe - need 25 from 9 games - no chance
I did say 53 would secure safety 52 might be enough but unless Birmingham and Rotherham crumble I still think it safety total will be higher than people think and in the 50's.
So thought I would look at Rotherham list of games and come up with a view on what might happen overall it has ended up being a long post.
Rotherham fixtures are NOT that daunting in my view with so many in Yorkshire
Sat 20 March Bristol City A - Bristol very unpredictable
Fri 02 April Millwall A - Classic middle of table going nowhere club. OK never an easy place to play but 13 days for Rotherham covid
struck players to recover
Mon 05 April Wycombe H - Very likely win here for Rotherham and start of a big run of games solely in Yorkshire
Sat 10 April Huddersfield A - Tough game , likely both teams would be happy with a draw
Tue 13 April QPR H - Playing a team already it seems perhaps on their holiday. Likely win or draw
Sat 17 April Birmingham H - Vital game - too hard to predict
Wed 21 April Middlesboro H - Not an easy game but not that daunting. Its still a home midweek match which is an advantage
Sat 24 April Barnsley A - Tough game at 'Sky Reds' . Its a south Yorkshire Derby, a draw a definite possibility which would be ok for both
Tue 27 April Brentford A - Very tough game and likely defeat
Sat 01 May Blackburn H - Another game against a middle of table going nowhere club but can be Blackburn can be useful. Tricky to
predict but Rotherham wont be quaking in their boots for this one
Tue 04 May Luton A - Depends on Luton mentality on this one.
Sat 08 May Cardiff A - Not an easy place to go generally and a very tricky last game for Rotherham
Unknown Coventry H - Vital game but will fancy their chances big time if they can score first and will also be a midweek game
Looking at this schedule to me at least, highlights a lot of games but a massive chunk in Yorkshire (8 of 13) . I expect they would be happy to get a point or perhaps 2 in next two away games and than put massive effort from 5th April to 24th April. Coventry should aim to play them on Thu April 29 and move Huddersfield away a day back to to Sunday 02 as Rotherham in London on prior Tuesday night .
By avoiding playing Coventry when so many players were ill and not fit, may have been 'engineered' NOT to happen. Vast bulk of games now will be tough but after Easter and with international break beforehand there is big chance to for players to get fit and have 4 out of 5 games at home. If they squeeze Coventry game in that period it would be 5 out of 6.
My estimate for them is 19 points and that's 51 overall. Can the Sky Blues match 51?
A quick summary on race to match that predicted 51 points for Rotherham
Huddersfield - need 9 form 9 games - fairly easy statistically as they current average about a point a game over season
Nottm F - need 10 from 9 games - fairly easy statistically as they current average about a point a game over season
Derby - need 11 from 9 games - not too difficult
Coventry - need 13 from 10 games not too difficult
Birmingham - need 13 from 9 games - not easy but definitely do-able although they have a tough run in
Rotherham - need 19 from 13 games as discussed
Sheff W - need 22 from 10 games - very unlikely
Wycombe - need 25 from 9 games - no chance
I did say 53 would secure safety 52 might be enough but unless Birmingham and Rotherham crumble I still think it safety total will be higher than people think and in the 50's.
Sky Blue Pete
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There is not a chance blues us and Rotherham get more than 50 points
Frostie
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You really think they'll get 19 more points!?
Teams have only gone down on 50+ pts twice in the last 15 years & 52pts would be the 2nd highest total a team will have been relegated on ever.
No way are both Rotherham & Birmingham getting above 50.
One thing I do agree on though is us playing Rotherham on the 15th April is a big disadvantage for us. 100% we should be pushing to play April 29th.
play_in_skyblue_stripes
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You really think they'll get 19 more points!?
Teams have only gone down on 50+ pts twice in the last 15 years & 52pts would be the 2nd highest total a team will have been relegated on ever.
No way are both Rotherham & Birmingham getting above 50.
One thing I do agree on though is us playing Rotherham on the 15th April is a big disadvantage for us. 100% we should be pushing to play April 29th.
I agree it looks like 52 is high but its happened on two occasions and 51 3 times.
95-96 Millwall 52
03/04 Walsall 51
07/08 Leicester 52
12/13 Peterboro 54
16/17 Blackburn 51
93/94 Birmingham 51
I hope both Rotherham and Birmingham don't go on a good run as well obviously . I do think Rotherham have a very decent chance of staying up. Birmingham have a tough schedule but do have a new manager and big incentive to stay up as they a pretty big club.
I decided to look at 95/96 season as an example when Millwall went down on 52.
Here is similar table on 25th March 1996 with games played etc. It has some similarities to present table played and points
if you disregard some disappointing ends to season for Portsmouth, Luton and disastrously for Millwall all teams in a similar position picked up what I suggested well over 10 points. Note Oldham were in most similar position to Rotherham and gained 17. Sheffield United amazingly 20 from 8 games, WBA 18 from 9 games and Reading 16. Bottom placed Watford gathered 15 points from 10 games.
Millwall 38 47 gained 5 and went down on 52
Portsm 37 45 gained 7 to each 52
Port Vale 34 35 gained 15 to reach 60
Grimsby 36 45 gained 11 to reach 56
Sheff U 38 42 gained 20 to reach 62
WBA 37 42 gained 18 to reach 60
Reading 36 40 gained 16 to reach 56
Oldham 36 39 gained 17 to reach 56
Luton 36 37 gained 8 to reach 45
Watford 36 33 gained 15 to reach 48
I've looked at tables going back in time and definitely this year will be much higher than normal total for relegation assuming no-one totally implodes. Website https://www.11v11.com/ is my source
Personally I think Coventry will get to either 48 or 49 and I think Birmingham are the team we may have to rely on to stay up.
Frostie
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Ok, appreciate the effort you've gone to!
Still absolutely no chance imo.
Think a lot of people overestimate Rotherham, even before the fixture congestion. 48 will be enough I think.
Evo1883
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So you've studied Rotherham, a team that's lost 6 in 7 and 7 from their last 10 and concluded they will pretty much win half their remaining matches
Dirk Turpin
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I think Rotherham will struggle if they've had 25 players test positive for covid. A good few of them are unlikely to be back to full fitness, combined with the amount of fixtures they are playing in a short period I think it could be a major issue for them.
KenilworthSkyBlue
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Agree with the above posters. In my opinion, I'm afraid this is just a classic case of shoehorning evidence to fit you're argument.
You've also failed to consider two key variables. How Rotherham's fixture congestion is going to affect their ability to achieve results and if contracting Covid is going to have a detrimental effect on their squad members. None of the aforementioned teams you've used as examples had to contend with such obstacles.
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play_in_skyblue_stripes
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Thanks Frostie
One last bit of analysis looking at 2007/08. Not quite as similar to 95/96. Demonstrates team will get at least 10 points from last 9 or 10 games. Blackpool imploded like Milllwall did in 95/96 but worryingly Sheff W moved out of bottom 3 with 16 from 11 games. As per 95/96 Sheff United picked over 20 points form 10 games. We don't want Coventry result replicated 10 points from 10 games is likely not to be enough this time around.
Blackpool 37 47 gained 7 to reach 54
Norwich 37 45 gained 10 to reach 55
Cardiff 35 45 gained 19 to reach 64
QPR 37 45 gained 13 to reach 58
Sheffield U 36 44 gained 22 to reach 66 (what is with this team at end of season?!)
Preston 37 43 gained 13 to reach 56
Coventry 36 43 gained 10 to reach 53
Barnsley 36 43 gained 11 to reach 55
Southampton 37 42 gained 12 to reach 54
Leicester 37 41 gained 11 to reach 52
Sheff W 35 39 gained 16 to reach 55
Scunthorpe 36 35 gained 11 to reach 46
Colchester 36 32 gained 6 to reach 38
I did say I studied relegation!!
Final story on this 2007/08 season. I worked in Perth Australia and on Monday after Leicester narrowly went down a point behind Coventry , I saw a Leicester City mug in kitchen. I left a yellow sticky on it with "just like 68/69 all over again" when City just kept above Leicester . I remember it well as a 5 year old! Never found out who owned the mug. Sadly the laughs I had are nothing to what laughs that person could have on the difference between the clubs now.
cc84cov
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Their forum seem to think it was only thr manager isolating all players now through it
play_in_skyblue_stripes
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I want to be wrong but looked at the two examples on my 52 point estimate and worryingly they support my thinking particularly 95/96. Of course there are lots of other variables and who knows on covid impact. Trick with relegation is not to time your bad run at the end of the season and get your bad spell out the way before the final stretch. As mentioned I think Birmingham are the team that may save us. I hope there is an equivalent Millwall , Blackpool from those examples and remember Hull last year that dropped like a stone.
I'm not saying I'm right as no one can of course know but the thread topic is "are you still confident?" I'm not confident that 50 will be enough if Birmingham and Rotherham pick up on their form and results which historically has been done before.
Frostie
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Ah, don't remind me of that final day in 2007/08 & the infamous Charlton away trip.
Absolute horror show, makes me angry still now. We stayed up thanks to a once in a lifetime, world class goalkeeping performance from Carlo Nash in goal for Stoke v Leicester.
We were appalling & Coleman should have walked there & then.
If you told anyone in attendance that day that Kasper Schmeichel would go on to be a top Premier League goalkeeper you'd have been sent to have your head tested.