Robins on CWR (2 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Who now he’s fit everyone is saying should start next game?

The whole plan was Walker and Godden, but the latter looks still miles off what he was. Keep getting the minutes into him and swap for Gyo if he tires.

 

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[Evo1883]

Who now he’s fit everyone is saying should start next game?

Yes I'm in agreement he should start with Walker... but they mean gyokores don't they

 

[fernandopartridge]

Strangely (and you may disagree), I think he’s adapted very well season-to-season and has developed his ideas/formations to suit. This hasn’t really happened this season and whilst I do think a back 3 leads to our best play, the fact he evidently doesn’t know what the best starting lineup is and how to get the best out of the system at this level is a concern.

To be fair to him he adjusted the way we play part way through the season and tightened up the defence, the problem is generally improved defensive solidity has come at the cost of any attacking impetus.

Goals breed confidence and we've not scored many, we've got players in midfield like James and Hamer who are hiding from the defenders when they're looking for a pass out of defence, clearly lacking confidence.

Having said all that, if that French clown had buried the gilt edged chances in successive games we'd be feeling far more positive than this.

 

[fernandopartridge]

First time for everything

Tbf he probably said the polar opposite twice in less than 24 hours so he's covered

 

[Grendel]

It can't be the same as he's never been relegated in this league with Huddersfield or Barnsley , so his record at this "level" is obviously better

Im talking about for us

 

[Super Graham Withey]

Have a feeling Robins will go at the end of this season irrespective of whether we stay up or go down.

 

[Evo1883]

Have a feeling Robins will go at the end of this season irrespective of whether we stay up or go down.

Based on ?

 

[Super Graham Withey]

Based on ?

He knows he's taken us as far as he can.

 

[Evo1883]

He knows he's taken us as far as he can.

We don't know what the owners have promised him if we stay up..they may be offering to double the wage bill so we can match the mighty Barnsley in wages to compete a bit more

 

[Super Graham Withey]

We don't know what the owners have promised him if we stay up..they may be offering to double the wage bill so we can match the mighty Barnsley in wages to compete a bit more

SISU will have promised him nothing but more of the same.

 

[Greggs]

We don't know what the owners have promised him if we stay up..they may be offering to double the wage bill so we can match the mighty Barnsley in wages to compete a bit more

If they give him 10million, would you really trust him? He has NEVER succeeded in the championship. If we can't offer players sentiment, why should we offer it a manager?

 

[Evo1883]

If they give him 10million, would you really trust him? He has NEVER succeeded in the championship. If we can't offer players sentiment, why should we offer it a manager?

Ofcourse I'd trust him with more money for wages and transfers

Even if they gave him another 10 million for wages alone we'd still not be on par with the average wage bill in this league

 

[Grendel]

We don't know what the owners have promised him if we stay up..they may be offering to double the wage bill so we can match the mighty Barnsley in wages to compete a bit more

Robins won’t be going anywhere. Our owners just want a disciple who worships at the Sisu temple. Robins ticks the box

 

[Greggs]

Ofcourse I'd trust him with more money for wages and transfers

Even if they gave him another 10 million for wages alone we'd still not be on par with the average wage bill in this league

Really? Recruitment has been wonderful so far.......

 

[Evo1883]

Robins won’t be going anywhere. Our owners just want a disciple who worships at the Sisu temple. Robins ticks the box

I thought we were talking sensible

 

[Grendel]

I thought we were talking sensible

I am he’s very on board with these owners - very

 

[cc84cov]

If they give him 10million, would you really trust him? He has NEVER succeeded in the championship. If we can't offer players sentiment, why should we offer it a manager?

Not a chance his signings have been weak the foreign ones are atrocious

 

[shmmeee]

If he’s had more money we know from rumours he’d have been looking at players like Panzo at CB and a new GK, who knows what else?

The fact is the team we put out yesterday isn’t much changed from the one we put out in L1:

Marosi - Marosi
Dacosta - Dabo (downgrade)
Rose - Rose
McFadz - Østigård (upgrade?)
Hyam - Hyam
McCallum - McCallum
Hamer - Walsh (downgrade on current form)
James - Kelly (slight upgrade?)
Shipley - Shipley
Allen - Allen
Godden - Godden

 

[Super Graham Withey]

Robins won’t be going anywhere. Our owners just want a disciple who worships at the Sisu temple. Robins ticks the box

Not so sure about that myself. Robins may publicly give the impression that he's pro SISU but he's not stupid. I don't believe for one minute that he genuinely believes that SISU have or ever will give him the squad he needs to succeed in the Championship.

 

[Evo1883]

Really? Recruitment has been wonderful with so far.......

Well I mean we've been promoted spent a couple of million ontop of an already pitifully small budget for this league ...were you expecting them all to be Diego Maradona

 

[Greggs]

Well I mean we've been promoted spent a couple of million ontop of an already pitifully small budget for this league ...were you expecting them all to be Diego Maradona

I'd expect him to get the best out of his players. Do you think he is good at that?!?!

 

[Grendel]

Well I mean we've been promoted spent a couple of million ontop of an already pitifully small budget for this league ...were you expecting them all to be Diego Maradona

You don’t know what the budget is and by definition clubs like Sunderland and Ipswich had collosal budgets in league one and we and Wycombe finished above them.

 

[Evo1883]

Really some people do struggle with basic economics and I'm supposed to be the thick one .

Coventry offering players let's say 4-8k a week to come and play football in the championship , the average championship wage is pushing 20k a week , better players demand higher wages , your only hope is to try and find hidden gems on low wages and shock horror some don't work out .

More money , easier to bring in proven quality , easier ro survive .

Pretty simple logic

 

[Super Graham Withey]

I'd expect him to get the best out of his players. Do you think he is good at that?!?!

And do you think we have a squad of genuine Championship ability?

 

[Greggs]

Really some people do struggle with basic economics and I'm supposed to be the thick one .

Coventry offering players let's say 4-8k a week to come and play football in the championship , the average championship wage is pushing 20k a week , better players demand higher wages , your only hope is to try and find hidden gems on low wages and shock horror some don't work out .

More money , easier to bring in proven quality , easier ro survive .

Pretty simple logic

Come on then Carol Voderman, how much is James on?

 

[Greggs]

And do you think we have a squad of genuine Championship ability?

i think we have a squad that are capable of performing far better than anything we've seen in months.

 

[Super Graham Withey]

Really some people do struggle with basic economics and I'm supposed to be the thick one .

Coventry offering players let's say 4-8k a week to come and play football in the championship , the average championship wage is pushing 20k a week , better players demand higher wages , your only hope is to try and find hidden gems on low wages and shock horror some don't work out .

More money , easier to bring in proven quality , easier ro survive .

Pretty simple logic

And £4-£8K is top end of our budget,

 

[Grendel]

Really some people do struggle with basic economics and I'm supposed to be the thick one .

Coventry offering players let's say 4-8k a week to come and play football in the championship , the average championship wage is pushing 20k a week , better players demand higher wages , your only hope is to try and find hidden gems on low wages and shock horror some don't work out .

More money , easier to bring in proven quality , easier ro survive .

Pretty simple logic

So if you are a manager whose inherited players on large contracts from a previous manager and have no money to spend on new players have you a bigger budget than someone who can spend £2.5m on new players in the close season?

 

[shmmeee]

how much is James on?

How much is Charlie Austin on?

 

[Evo1883]

You don’t know what the budget is and by definition clubs like Sunderland and Ipswich had collosal budgets in league one and we and Wycombe finished above them.

This was explained by using Derby and Sheffield Wednesday as examples .

Both clubs were higher up pushing promotion , had certain players on massive wages ...had to reduce budget based on failure , built around high earners with lower quality low earners = high wage bill but less quality ..all the teams mentioned have reduced their wage bills considerably including Sunderland

 

[Grendel]

And do you think we have a squad of genuine Championship ability?

we are similar to a lot of clubs around us - our wage bill will be near £10m

 

[Super Graham Withey]

i think we have a squad that are capable of performing far better than anything we've seen in months.

Maybe. But repeat, do you think we have a squad of genuine Championship ability?

 

[shmmeee]

we are similar to a lot of clubs around us - our wage bill will be near £10m

Which squads do you think we have similar quality players to?

 

[Grendel]

This was explained by using Derby and Sheffield Wednesday as examples .

Both clubs were higher up pushing promotion , had certain players on massive wages ...had to reduce budget based on failure , built around high earners with lower quality low earners = high wage bill but less quality ..all the teams mentioned have reduced their wage bills considerably inuding Sunderland

Sundeland entered the league with a £40m wage bill so that’s a big budget isn’t it?

 

[stupot07]

If he’s had more money we know from rumours he’d have been looking at players like Panzo at CB and a new GK, who knows what else?

The fact is the team we put out yesterday isn’t much changed from the one we put out in L1:

Marosi - Marosi
Dacosta - Dabo (downgrade)
Rose - Rose
McFadz - Østigård (upgrade?)
Hyam - Hyam
McCallum - McCallum
Hamer - Walsh (downgrade on current form)
James - Kelly (slight upgrade?)
Shipley - Shipley
Allen - Allen
Godden - Godden

It really shows how poor our recruitment has been this season.


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