AOM
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Wow, 3 years planning and it was dismantled within 24 hours
I'd imagine this isn't the end of it though and they'll be back with a more prepared proposal in future
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Wow, 3 years planning and it was dismantled within 24 hours
I'd imagine this isn't the end of it though and they'll be back with a more prepared proposal in future
AOM
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Speaking on the El Larguero show on Spanish radio station Cadena Ser, Super League chairman Perez claimed all 12 clubs "have not left yet".
"You cannot get out of the contract like this - they are binding contracts," he added.
When asked what the penalty was for leaving the project, Perez did not answer.
Wonder what was actually signed?
"You cannot get out of the contract like this - they are binding contracts," he added.
When asked what the penalty was for leaving the project, Perez did not answer.
Wonder what was actually signed?
ovduk78
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I'd love there to be a points deduction by PL but can't see PL or UEFA doing anything. Maybe BT/Sky can reduce times they are live next season but can't think they will agree with their vocal presenters and do anything about it. They could cut their PL prize money and distribute it through the football pyramid after all they only joined to help benefit football.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Perez comments are why we need to keep the pressure on to make sure this can't happen in the future
Colin Steins Smile
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Following this debacle by the treasonous 6. I think UEFA will be emboldened as they've faced the ESL concept down I don't see this being resurrected for at least a decade and by then the business framework will have been changed.
chiefdave
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Can't remember who it was but someone said on TV that this could remove a lot of power from the 'big 6' as their leverage has always been they will walk away and form their own league and thats now gone.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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They won’t be fine4 or have points deducted or any other punishment . They said they were going to start this super league but have they? They have talked and agreed but have they gone through with it?
What they proposed was diabolical but no worse than the way UEFA and fifa behave, selling championship league finals and World Cup finals to the highest bidders.
All of these people are as bad as each other and I include players in that.
What they proposed was diabolical but no worse than the way UEFA and fifa behave, selling championship league finals and World Cup finals to the highest bidders.
All of these people are as bad as each other and I include players in that.
chiefdave
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Isn't he staying on until the end of the year when he was due to leave anyway?
better days
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Is the Real Madrid plan now to sue the 6 English clubs to get money that way?
It could be rats fighting in a sack
It could be rats fighting in a sack
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There’s talk on radio that clubs involved could be be banned from European and domestic competitions for a period so no Champion league or Euro competitions and banned from domestic cups too so no FA Cup or League cup that would seriously hurt their pockets and would mean their avaricious owners
Frostie
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That's what I thought? Yet yesterday they were reporting he'd quit with immediate effect. Trying to save face by claiming he was against it all along?
AOM
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Would really like this to happen, but unfortunately can't see it.
If anything, it would probably persuade the teams to go for an ESL.2 !
Domestic competitions without the big 6 would certainly make it more interesting though
samccov1987
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New twist rumours of a premier league revamp with Celtic & Rangers but down to 18 teams.
Even with super league dead there are going to be big changes coming. Can see smaller Prem, EFL cup gone but possibly more payments down the pyramid to compensate.Old Firm are wanted in British League as part of fall-out of failed ESL plot
Even with super league dead there are going to be big changes coming. Can see smaller Prem, EFL cup gone but possibly more payments down the pyramid to compensate.Old Firm are wanted in British League as part of fall-out of failed ESL plot
tisza
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Makes no sense. Be the fastest way to resurrect the Super League and some of their fans would then back it
chiefdave
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That article is nuts. And the anonymous source at one club makes me think its make up rubbish or just one persons wishful thinking. The 'big 6' have just tried to get out of a Champions League with games against the likes of Rangers and Celtic as they claim nobody is interested in those games, why would they then invite them to the PL? Are they even PL standard?
Don't really have a problem with merging and forming a British League but it would need to benefit the entire Scottish game not just Rangers & Celtic and still be part of the pyramid. Just off the top of my head you could maybe have the top two division being British and then split into regional leagues as has been done in the past. There's no way lower division clubs are going to be wanting the potential of 12 hour journeys to games.
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Sbarcher
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What will happen when they are independant and no longer in Britain, they'll be questions asked why we have allowed 2 "foreign" teams in our league (unlike Welsh teams who will be still in Britain).
Terry Gibson's perm
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Uefa meeting has started his brave will they be?
Colin Steins Smile
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Tracey Crouch is leading the review and she was previously an excellent Sports Minister, so have some confidence that she has a good depth of knowledge of the issues.
The problem (especially with this government) is implementing the findings of any review. They always over promise and under deliver.
Skyblueweeman
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The thing is, how do you get current owners to agree that they need to give up, up to 49% of their stake...I just can't see it happening.
I'm not sure how it happened in Germany either.
If you make a sports club forcibly change their ownership strategy, surely the owners would sue along the lines of being unfairly treated. Successive governments love privatisation so why should they promote a more public ownership stance with sports clubs?
I'd love it to happen but just can't see how it works...
I'm not sure how it happened in Germany either.
If you make a sports club forcibly change their ownership strategy, surely the owners would sue along the lines of being unfairly treated. Successive governments love privatisation so why should they promote a more public ownership stance with sports clubs?
I'd love it to happen but just can't see how it works...
RegTheDonk
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Sturgeon will be annoyed ...they don't want independence from England then?
ovduk78
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During the last referendum they interviewed someone who didn't want to vote for independence if it meant he could no longer watch the PL!!Sturgeon will be annoyed ...they don't want independence from England then?
shmmeee
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Just make it a condition of entering the league like any other rule change. Legally it’s not an issue, FA’s house, FA’s rules Id imagine. Politically you aren’t going to get a better time than now.
chiefdave
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I guess in theory now we're not tied to the EU we can make any laws we like and just tell them to hand it over but obviously that can't happen in practice. The taxpayer isn't going to stand for handing money over to super rich football club owners to allow them to be bought out as we all know a lot of the debt isn't real. Imagine Sepalla getting a £60m payout or Glazer getting the best part of £800m.
Could you bring in a status for football clubs that requires them to run as non-profits? Of course you still get things like ridiculous interest payments being taken out, how do you stop that? You can't just ban borrowing as some teams, particularly at the lower end, will have a genuine need, centralised borrowing via the FA so it has to be justified?
Maybe something similar to Barca where nothing major can be done without the fans getting a vote.
At least its being talked about and if supporters are being involved there will hopefully be a chance to put ideas forward.
chiefdave
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But what would happen to the debt. If Man Utd are nearly £800m in debt and the fans are taking on a majority share in ownership are they expected to pay that off?
shmmeee
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That’s a fair question.
OK, I fall back to my previous position: give fans ownership of the golden share/naming rights of the club. Which can be leased back to the owners.
Liquid Gold
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They could at least make it a condition when any change in ownership occurs. I’d love to see Man Utd’s share price fall apart after that announcement.
better days
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The fan ownership thing hasn't stopped Germany becoming a one party state for football with Bayern winning the league for the past 9 seasons
Probably the best way to go is to give the teams outside the 'Big 6' more power
For example giving the majority of PL (or whole of the FL pyramid?)teams the power to expel any club that tries what the gruesome sixsome just did
Even if greedy owners might countenance leaving the PL for more money in a Super League those club's fans showed they won't stand for it
Really the fans of the Big 6 played a blinder didn't they?
Apparently fans in Spain didn't kick up any stink at all about it
Probably the best way to go is to give the teams outside the 'Big 6' more power
For example giving the majority of PL (or whole of the FL pyramid?)teams the power to expel any club that tries what the gruesome sixsome just did
Even if greedy owners might countenance leaving the PL for more money in a Super League those club's fans showed they won't stand for it
Really the fans of the Big 6 played a blinder didn't they?
Apparently fans in Spain didn't kick up any stink at all about it