Do you want to discuss boring politics? (119 Viewers)

[Grendel]

I agree - it should stop selling arms to Israel immediately.

Who should the U.K. sell arms to?

 

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[Ian1779]

Who should the U.K. sell arms to?

Themselves is fine.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Never been to that part of the world but as long as Israel is in the grip of Netanyahu it won't change

I fear the damage has been done, and there's no going back.

 

[skybluetony176]

Never been to that part of the world but as long as Israel is in the grip of Netanyahu it won't change

He’s 100% part of the problem not the cure.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I fear the damage has been done, and there's no going back.

There is an idealistic part of me that thinks something could yet be achieved

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Who should the U.K. sell arms to?

Not to sections of the labour party, hopefully.

 

[Grendel]

Themselves is fine.

So countries shouldn’t sell arms to other countries?

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Close friend of mine went to build houses with a charity there. Israel bulldozed then for settlements

Yep, it's shocking. As I've always understood it, it's a movement heavily influenced and led by US orthodox Jews, and which does not draw sympathy from a significant part of the Israeli community.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So countries shouldn’t sell arms to other countries?

Do you think we should keep selling them to the Saudis when we know what they're used for?

 

[Ian1779]

Do you think we should keep selling them to the Saudis when we know what they're used for?

Clearly he believes the right to make profit for shareholders supersedes all other rights.

 

[Grendel]

Do you think we should keep selling them to the Saudis when we know what they're used for?

Well I believe you wanted to remain in the Eu which as a block thrives in sales of arms and equipment to the Saudi regime doesn’t it?

 

[Grendel]

Clearly he believes the right to make profit for shareholders supersedes all other rights.

The Eu as a block is a big supplier of arms to Israel isn’t it?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Well I believe you wanted to remain in the Eu which as a block thrives in sales of arms and equipment to the Saudi regime doesn’t it?

Dodged like a pro

 

[Ian1779]

The Eu as a block is a big supplier of arms to Israel isn’t it?

Epic whataboutery.

 

[Grendel]

Dodged like a pro

Arms kill people. As long as there is zero discrimination on sales that’s the industry

 

[shmmeee]

Well I believe you wanted to remain in the Eu which as a block thrives in sales of arms and equipment to the Saudi regime doesn’t it?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well I believe you wanted to remain in the Eu which as a block thrives in sales of arms and equipment to the Saudi regime doesn’t it?

It is possible to support remaining in the EU without supporting everything it does.

 

[Grendel]

Epic whataboutery.

Not at all.

Comrade Corbyn and you are at one. It’s interesting the one conflict you are invested in involves Jews. Very interesting.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Clearly he believes the right to make profit for shareholders supersedes all other rights.

Amber Rudd agrees with him on that, as she answered in one 2017 debate

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not at all.

Comrade Corbyn and you are at one. It’s interesting the one conflict you are invested in involves Jews. Very interesting.

And yet not once on Miss Sultana's Twitter page does she use the word 'Jew'.

 

[Grendel]

And yet not once on Miss Sultana's Twitter page does she use the word 'Jew'.

well

Labour candidate Zarah Sultana is accused of anti-white slur | Express Digest

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[Ian1779]

Not at all.

Comrade Corbyn and you are at one. It’s interesting the one conflict you are invested in involves Jews. Very interesting.

Of course - in my zero personal experience of meeting or interacting with Jewish people. But as I support the notion that there should be a 2 state solution I am obviously a raving anti-Semite in your world.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

well

Labour candidate Zarah Sultana is accused of anti-white slur | Express Digest

expressdigest.com

So you're characterising someone as anti-Semitic when they haven't said anything about Jews specifically?

 

[skybluetony176]

It is possible to support remaining in the EU without supporting everything it does.

Germany extended its arms embargo to Saudi Arabia in December until the end of this year. The British government green lighted a £1.4B arms deal in February with Saudi Arabia. Clearly EU membership has nothing to do with it.

 

[Grendel]

Of course - in my zero personal experience of meeting or interacting with Jewish people. But as I support the notion that there should be a 2 state solution I am obviously a raving anti-Semite in your world.

I haven’t said you are an anti semite. How do you think this obsession from the left of your party helps it’s electability in the U.K.?

 

[Grendel]

So you're characterising someone as anti-Semitic when they haven't said anything about Jews specifically?

She wanted the Israeli leader killed didn’t she?

 

[wingy]

What happened to the Palestinians was never right and never can be.
That's my view from simple justice,not any political viewpoint.
The rest is constructed shit ,Be that by Gertrude Bell or or America.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

And yet not once on Miss Sultana's Twitter page does she use the word 'Jew'.

You are aware that her Anti-Semitic tweets were deleted?

Labour Candidate Facing Deselection Over Tony Blair Death Tweet

Coventry South contender Zarah Sultana summoned for fresh NEC interview

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

 

[Grendel]

You are aware that her Anti-Semitic tweets were deleted?

its embarrasing

 

[Ian1779]

I haven’t said you are an anti semite. How do you think this obsession from the left of your party helps it’s electability in the U.K.?

No but that’s what you are implying with the Corbyn reference.

We already know the right don’t give a fuck about human life... it’s a commodity for profit. So who else will speak up if not the left?

There is a bigger question here. Shouldn’t a political party that wants to represent a multicultural place like the UK that is home to Jews, Muslims, Israelis and Palestinians be seeking to find a solution to peace?

The use of force in this conflict is hugely disproportionate yet the ‘calling out’ of the conflict is at best equal, and in reality biased in protection of the side causing the vast majority of the deaths and destruction.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You are aware that her Anti-Semitic tweets were deleted?

Labour Candidate Facing Deselection Over Tony Blair Death Tweet

Coventry South contender Zarah Sultana summoned for fresh NEC interview

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

The past comments are indefensible.

 

[TomRad85]

You are aware that her Anti-Semitic tweets were deleted?

Labour Candidate Facing Deselection Over Tony Blair Death Tweet

Coventry South contender Zarah Sultana summoned for fresh NEC interview

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

Ticks all the boxes for a future Labour leader doesn't she.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

No but that’s what you are implying with the Corbyn reference.

We already know the right don’t give a fuck about human life... it’s a commodity for profit. So who else will speak up if not the left?

There is a bigger question here. Shouldn’t a political party that wants to represent a multicultural place like the UK that is home to Jews, Muslims, Israelis and Palestinians be seeking to find a solution to peace?

The use of force in this conflict is hugely disproportionate yet the ‘calling out’ of the conflict is at best equal, and in reality biased in protection of the side causing the vast majority of the deaths and destruction.

Come to think of it what are the issues that the right in this country has marched in protest for?

 

[Ian1779]

Ticks all the boxes for a future Labour leader doesn't she.

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All she needs now is to add some general racism to her portfolio and she’ll be qualified to run the Tory party.

 

[TomRad85]

There is a bigger question here. Shouldn’t a political party that wants to represent a multicultural place like the UK that is home to Jews, Muslims, Israelis and Palestinians be seeking to find a solution to peace?

The solution being blame everything on the Jews? Brilliant.

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