Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (159 Viewers)

clint van damme

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Well I think we know I've not been a fan of nudge nudge psychology over decisive instruction, but that's to do with the generation I come from .
We only need to look at the confusion on travel corridors last week to see what vague advice brings.

I think the travel corridor ambiguity is deliberate.
Government says one thing, foreign office says another and if it goes tits up they can blame the public.
For the purpose of insurance its the foreign office guidelines you need to follow.
 

wingy

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Familiar scare tactic to when Johnson came out and said the Kent variant was more deadly.
Do we take from this that the Kent variant was around 30% more transissable not 70% as implied initially or that the response just needed to be quicker to respond and quell the rise,so the rules were really the same.
Confusing for me or being a simpleton hadn't we had spells where r was deemed to be at 3
"Kent COVID variant is more transmissible, but does not cause more serious disease - BBC Science Focus Magazine" Kent COVID variant is more transmissible, but does not cause more serious disease
 

Ccfcisparks

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How’s the mental health atm? Hypocrite

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Well it's subjective isn't it.
Wasn't there an article about scientists and government admitting to inducing fear to persuade behaviours?

Yes there was, but when it was mentioned on here previously it got laughed out the thread. I doubt we will see any apologies.
 

shmmeee

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Decided to click on an anti vaxxers profile on twitter and have a read through , full of peoples opinions being retweeted etc.

It's crazy tbh I never realised just how many people were so against this.

The best one was a bbc article about a vaccine centre that had graffiti on it with the words depopulation centre or something like that .

Got me thinking , who would be the babysitters in a world with no 18 plus year olds 🤣

And we’re the best in the world for vaccine hesitancy, just imagine being French or American.
 

David O'Day

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Not disputing that it may be more transmissible. I think it would be useful to see how many cases are from a single household in Bolton / Blackburn, I'd suspect a lot. I notice that Sefton got on top of its outbreak.

I'm making no claims, just wanted to put the actual report on record as the newspaper story was misleading.

I don't think there's anything yet that says pause anything.
 

Evo1883

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Ridiculously impressive from Boris and the team. Imagine Labour were in charge we’d still be locked down

It's 10.26 and I've just had my first coffee mate , I'm just saying it great and leaving it there lol
 

chiefdave

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So many are scientifically illiterate, they shouldn’t be allowed to comment.
Its a weird filtering process. SAGE report based on science, the press then pick out a small part of the report that will generate the most clicks. People then pick out a small part of the news reports and amplify on social media. Then it gets thrown back as 'proof' SAGE were wrong despite their reports being publicly available for anyone to see.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Its a weird filtering process. SAGE report based on science, the press then pick out a small part of the report that will generate the most clicks. People then pick out a small part of the news reports and amplify on social media. Then it gets thrown back as 'proof' SAGE were wrong despite their reports being publicly available for anyone to see.

There are good scientific journalism sites out there which don’t get much attention. There is no excuse for not making an effort to understand how vaccines, viruses and infections work.

Which on a separate point makes me really wish we told people and businesses that surface transmission has been thoroughly debunked for a long time now. You do not need to quarantine inanimate objects, soak desks in alcohol wipes or spray disinfectant around buildings. We understand very well now this is an airborne virus transmitted more through aerosols
 

Nick

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Of course some people are going to be scared going back to normal. Weve had a 130k deaths from a disease which still out there.
Hopefully its now at a point where its manageable but I can see why some people are still worried.
It took a few horror stories of 30 somethings in ICU in Bolton to instigate an increase in vaccine take up.

Yeah as well as the media ramming it down people's throats 24/7 that the world is going to end.

How many people die every day from cancer alone? Maybe we should just give up life now in case we get cancer one day?

It really is no way to live.
 

Grendel

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Yeah as well as the media ramming it down people's throats 24/7 that the world is going to end.

How many people die every day from cancer alone? Maybe we should just give up life now in case we get cancer one day?

It really is no way to live.

Also less than 1% of people in the non vaccinated age groups are in the death category by age and most of those would have had other complications
 

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