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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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What my daughter does when I tell her she can't have 5 pound robux

Also me realising how old I am now as I've got no idea what you're talking about. Something to do with the yoof of today I assume.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Definitely. My only worry is that he’s just used as the fall guy and everyone else gets away with it. ‘Hancock was the issue and we’ve removed him, so that’s the end of it’

Ultimately Johnson is the PM and the buck stops with him. But we know he’s Teflon.

Another thing politics in general is good at. Finding a scapegoat to pin all the blame on, wait for the furore to die down a bit then bring them back. Like Mandelson but without the Machiavellian intelligence.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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No mention of Gove either, he's always been team Gove all the way back to their days at the DoE

Not heard much about the likes of Patel, raab etc either. I guess it's because the people with the main influence were Johnson (PM), Sunak (Treasury) and Hancock (Health Minister).

But I agree he'll definitely be behind a Gove coup. And then he'll be back pulling strings at No.10 and ignoring the fact that in front of a committee he said it was a position he should never have been in.
 

stupot07

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I cant stand Gove, but to be fair he'd been pretty much working on Brexit for most to pandemic.

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Grendel

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Nailed on then. Get your mortgage on it people!

The members and most MPs despise him he would have no chance and I don't see any of this harming Johnson anyway
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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The members and most MPs despise him he would have no chance and I don't see any of this harming Johnson anyway

Similar was said about Johnson that he'd never get the support of the MP's so we needn't worry about him.

Admittedly Gove has almost no backing with the public whereas Johnson's charisma probably swayed them as they thought in an era of personality politics he's the biggest there is and would get votes purely on that.

You may be right but Gove (ad Cummings) seem like the kind of people who keep files on everyone and any competition will be politely reminded of any skeletons in their closet and how they'd hate for people to find out about them so perhaps they should just step down from the contest.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Another thing is that Cummings is saying about how Johnson is totally incapable - why did you spend so much time helping him in the leadership battle then? Shows there's no integrity.

I think it shows that the difference with the infighting is that Labour do it out in the open, Tories do it behind closed doors and when it comes to light it's like a Tarantino movie.
 

Grendel

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Similar was said about Johnson that he'd never get the support of the MP's so we needn't worry about him.

Admittedly Gove has almost no backing with the public whereas Johnson's charisma probably swayed them as they thought in an era of personality politics he's the biggest there is and would get votes purely on that.

You may be right but Gove (ad Cummings) seem like the kind of people who keep files on everyone and any competition will be politely reminded of any skeletons in their closet and how they'd hate for people to find out about them so perhaps they should just step down from the contest.

Eh? Johnson was adored by the membership
 

PVA

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I don't believe 95% of the things Cummings has said, he's a total bullshitter.

Well if even 5% of what he has said is true, as you suggest, there's enough there to say that Johnson & Hancock should at the very least resign and possibly even get hauled in front of a judge.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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I then in that post explained why this was - his popularity with the public in an age of personality politics meant he'd get them votes just with his funny antics. And ultimately that's what they care about. They didn't pick him because they liked him or thought he was the most capable.

The point originally was that in the leadership bid it was constantly said he would never get the MP's on board and thus his chances of becoming leader were minimal. But if he could he was a shoe-in with the members.
 

clint van damme

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Yes I don't think much will come of it other than Hancock getting the boot, but it has at least been entertaining as you say!

As soon as I heard it I thought Johnson will throw him under the bus but he vigorously defended him. Might have more dirt than Cummings?
 

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